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Re: Croker's kicking

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raidersmalt wrote: April 29, 2019, 7:49 am
raiderskater wrote: April 28, 2019, 4:03 pm Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
Right here! He kicked great yesterday, let's hope he can keep it up.

Calling anyone critical of croker's kicking before yesterday's game "cowards" says a lot more about you than it does me.

I started this thread because he had kicked terribly all season and I thought it warranted some discussion. If you're happy with the 22nd best kicker in the NRL statistically before yesterday's game, that's up to you.

However, he kicked well yesterday and let's hope he keeps it going.
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Re: Croker's kicking

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simo wrote: April 29, 2019, 9:10 am
raidersmalt wrote: April 29, 2019, 7:49 am
raiderskater wrote: April 28, 2019, 4:03 pm Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
Right here! He kicked great yesterday, let's hope he can keep it up.

Calling anyone critical of croker's kicking before yesterday's game "cowards" says a lot more about you than it does me.

I started this thread because he had kicked terribly all season and I thought it warranted some discussion. If you're happy with the 22nd best kicker in the NRL statistically before yesterday's game, that's up to you.

However, he kicked well yesterday and let's hope he keeps it going.
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raiderskater wrote: April 28, 2019, 4:03 pm Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
This is totally unnecessary
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raidersmalt wrote: April 29, 2019, 10:10 am
simo wrote: April 29, 2019, 9:10 am
raidersmalt wrote: April 29, 2019, 7:49 am
raiderskater wrote: April 28, 2019, 4:03 pm Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
Right here! He kicked great yesterday, let's hope he can keep it up.

Calling anyone critical of croker's kicking before yesterday's game "cowards" says a lot more about you than it does me.

I started this thread because he had kicked terribly all season and I thought it warranted some discussion. If you're happy with the 22nd best kicker in the NRL statistically before yesterday's game, that's up to you.

However, he kicked well yesterday and let's hope he keeps it going.
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Malt you were fair to question it to begin with, and you’ve also been fair to acknowledge his good day with the boot. His action definitely looked improved on the previous month, good on him, long may it continue.

It’s unfortunate that you can’t really have any discussions on here without almost immediately stumbling over petty nitwits who can’t see outside their blinkered views in order to continue an engaging conversation.
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It’s almost like a career 80% kicker who was kicking at 63% had regression to the mean, haha
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PigRickman wrote: April 29, 2019, 10:26 am It’s almost like a career 80% kicker who was kicking at 63% had regression to the mean, haha
That’s right. A lot of the player-focused chat on here is usually coinciding with form dips isn’t it?

What’s good about yesterday’s effort wasn’t that he kicked 4/4 (although thanks for the numpty crowing about that), but that his mechanics/action looked improved, like he’d been working on it. THAT’s what you want to see, regardless of the outcome.
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Re: Croker's kicking

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raidersmalt wrote: April 29, 2019, 7:49 am
raiderskater wrote: April 28, 2019, 4:03 pm Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
Right here! He kicked great yesterday, let's hope he can keep it up.

Calling anyone critical of croker's kicking before yesterday's game "cowards" says a lot more about you than it does me.

I started this thread because he had kicked terribly all season and I thought it warranted some discussion. If you're happy with the 22nd best kicker in the NRL statistically before yesterday's game, that's up to you.

However, he kicked well yesterday and let's hope he keeps it going.
It was premature and unnecessary, as his kicking yesterday has proven.
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Our kicker wasn't kicking well- so isn't a supporters discussion forum the place to discuss that?

The initial post says that if Croker's kicking stayed down in the 60%s then we should look at another kicker in that case. Which is a fair enough idea in a close comp. It wasn't a hatchet job post.

Then 90% of people just said- "yeah worth keeping an eye on" or "nah he'll come good" hardly a schism worthy of call outs and recriminations and gotcha's or whatever.
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Rickmando wrote: April 29, 2019, 10:30 am
PigRickman wrote: April 29, 2019, 10:26 am It’s almost like a career 80% kicker who was kicking at 63% had regression to the mean, haha
That’s right. A lot of the player-focused chat on here is usually coinciding with form dips isn’t it?

What’s good about yesterday’s effort wasn’t that he kicked 4/4 (although thanks for the numpty crowing about that), but that his mechanics/action looked improved, like he’d been working on it. THAT’s what you want to see, regardless of the outcome.
Yep 100% agree
He looked much more fluid with his follow through to me. Again, no expert but I thought he was kicking very stiffly before this week
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PigRickman wrote: April 29, 2019, 12:58 pm
Rickmando wrote: April 29, 2019, 10:30 am
PigRickman wrote: April 29, 2019, 10:26 am It’s almost like a career 80% kicker who was kicking at 63% had regression to the mean, haha
That’s right. A lot of the player-focused chat on here is usually coinciding with form dips isn’t it?

What’s good about yesterday’s effort wasn’t that he kicked 4/4 (although thanks for the numpty crowing about that), but that his mechanics/action looked improved, like he’d been working on it. THAT’s what you want to see, regardless of the outcome.
Yep 100% agree
He looked much more fluid with his follow through to me. Again, no expert but I thought he was kicking very stiffly before this week
That first shot at goal was telling. He didn't stab at it like we'd seen in some other kicks this year. Came off the boot as sweet as anything. Get the feeling his issue was more mental than mechanical and hopefully he's moved beyond it now.
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This whole thread was garbage to begin with. As they showed against Manly, 25% of his kicks this year have been "far wide", which is why his numbers were down. From "far wide" he's only kicked 1 out of 8 this season, which means for the rest of his kicks he was probably closer to 90%.

As I said earlier in the thread, it seems to me he's been kicking a lot more from out wide this season than usual, sure he hasn't been nailing those kicks as much as he would like, but I'd hardly crucify my kicker or say he's "kicking poor" because a large chunk of his kicks are from the sideline.

Bunch of cowards.
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He kicked very well yesterday.

But he didn't pass to Cotric so let's start a thread...

Crokers passing
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-PJ- wrote: April 29, 2019, 3:14 pm He kicked very well yesterday.

But he didn't pass to Cotric so let's start a thread...

Crokers passing
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Northern Raider wrote: April 29, 2019, 3:37 pm
-PJ- wrote: April 29, 2019, 3:14 pm He kicked very well yesterday.

But he didn't pass to Cotric so let's start a thread...

Crokers passing
What about captaincy?
We have a back up skip.
What till Toots misses a tackle..

Oh boy !!!
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Re: Croker's kicking

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-PJ- wrote: April 29, 2019, 3:39 pm
Northern Raider wrote: April 29, 2019, 3:37 pm
-PJ- wrote: April 29, 2019, 3:14 pm He kicked very well yesterday.

But he didn't pass to Cotric so let's start a thread...

Crokers passing
What about captaincy?
We have a back up skip.
What till Toots misses a tackle..

Oh boy !!!
Thats become less of an issue since Konrad Hurrell went to ESL
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Re: Croker's kicking

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All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
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raidersmalt wrote: April 30, 2019, 10:42 am All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
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raidersmalt wrote:All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
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Re: Croker's kicking

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The Rickman wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:27 am
raidersmalt wrote: April 30, 2019, 10:42 am All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
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raidersmalt wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:29 am
The Rickman wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:27 am
raidersmalt wrote: April 30, 2019, 10:42 am All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
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Keghead wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:29 am
raidersmalt wrote:All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
Yeah well don’t be coming on here with your independent thoughts again thanks. Independent thoughts are reserved for the upper management posters who run the team.At present there are no vacancies within the upper echelon but when there is a space available you can be sure it will be given to a suck boy (or girl it is 2019) and a poster of your ilk will remain in the others folder . You can consider this your first official warning pal.Image


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So you're now advocating for posters to post thoughts AGAINST the players rather than blindly in support??

:hmmm Interesting turn of events here... I like the new direction the Keghead character is taking!!
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Keghead wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:29 am
raidersmalt wrote:All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
Yeah well don’t be coming on here with your independent thoughts again thanks. Independent thoughts are reserved for the upper management posters who run the team.At present there are no vacancies within the upper echelon but when there is a space available you can be sure it will be given to a suck boy (or girl it is 2019) and a poster of your ilk will remain in the others folder . You can consider this your first official warning pal.Image


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The Rickman wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:35 am
Keghead wrote: April 30, 2019, 11:29 am
raidersmalt wrote:All I did when I started this thread was identify an issue with croker's kicking that had been going for 6 rounds.

In my opinion, 6 rounds is long enough to raise the issue for some discussion.

I wasn't calling for him to be replaced, I just thought it'd be interesting to hear others thoughts on the topic.

I was wrong.

I'll certainly be less inclined to start another thread in the future, and I'll keep my opinions to myself. You're welcome.
Yeah well don’t be coming on here with your independent thoughts again thanks. Independent thoughts are reserved for the upper management posters who run the team.At present there are no vacancies within the upper echelon but when there is a space available you can be sure it will be given to a suck boy (or girl it is 2019) and a poster of your ilk will remain in the others folder . You can consider this your first official warning pal.Image


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So you're now advocating for posters to post thoughts AGAINST the players rather than blindly in support??

:hmmm Interesting turn of events here... I like the new direction the Keghead character is taking!!
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Re: Croker's kicking

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1 thing that I think would benifit Croker is that if he would possibly consider taking the ball back a couple more meters when not directly in front.

His ball flight is low and penetrating which leaves extremely little margin for error if not struck fluently and I noticed on his 1st kick on the weekend he gave himself extremely little angle to work with. He only has to take the tee back 3- 5 meters and that would almost double the width of the goalpost due to the angle he is kicking at and any side spin wouldn’t have impacted that delivery yet. It’s a simple percentage play.

Unlike Sezer who has a high ball flight that leaves a lot more margin for error because he has less spin on the ball and doesn’t move through the air as quick (would certainly allow a deeper kick off at restarts).

Personally and I’ve stated over the years I think Sezer is the better goal kicker.

However, I’m happy with Crocker as him getting the all time record is probably the most realistic shot at Glory we have as a club.
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Not sure what is going on here, but he certainly struck the ball better on the weekend compared with the rest of the season.

Hopefully a good sign moving forward.
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Seiffert82 wrote: May 1, 2019, 5:10 pm Not sure what is going on here, but he certainly struck the ball better on the weekend compared with the rest of the season.

Hopefully a good sign moving forward.
He also didn't have 25% of his shots from the touchline either, which helps immensely ;)
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Re: Croker's kicking

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The Rickman wrote: April 24, 2019, 11:23 am This thread is absolute garbage. Somebody want to do the stats on how many of our kicks have been from the sideline this year, because it seems like a lot, more than usual


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You raise a good point here, Rickman (if that IS your real name). Going into the Manly game, he had to kick approximately 25% of his kicks from the sideline which seems a little high. Of those he's only kicked 1 from 8, meaning his other 75% of kicks he's actually kicked quite well, about 80%.

So his kicking from the sideline has been down a little this season, coupled with the fact he's had to do a lot more wide shots than normal.
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Re: Croker's kicking

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Croker's kicking has significantly improved since I started this thread.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.
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I just want to reiterate how **** dumb this thread was

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Yup, 100% again today.

But of course someone else should have taken over the kicking and it was something to worry about.
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I think we all wanted him to kick himself back into form, which he did. It was a bit of a concern, but no need to worry about considering other options now. Great work from Croker!
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7/7 I’d like to see that first goal with the big bend again
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raidersmalt wrote: May 4, 2019, 4:39 pm Croker's kicking has significantly improved since I started this thread.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.
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