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raiderskater wrote: April 24, 2019, 1:09 pm Is this the new version of the Croker's captaincy thread, now that those jerks got what they wanted and we have co-captains?

I can't help but wonder if that's contributed to a lot of things I've noticed this year. Croker said in an interview he understands it's not a demotion but the heart isn't logical. It would fit with his new, seemingly desperate/aggressive defense AND a low-confidence approach to his kicking.
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raiderskater wrote: April 24, 2019, 1:09 pm Is this the new version of the Croker's captaincy thread, now that those jerks got what they wanted and we have co-captains?

I can't help but wonder if that's contributed to a lot of things I've noticed this year. Croker said in an interview he understands it's not a demotion but the heart isn't logical. It would fit with his new, seemingly desperate/aggressive defense AND a low-confidence approach to his kicking.
If Croker's response to losing the sole captaincy is more desperate and aggressive defense then it's just another reason we're lucky to have him.
I think it's more likely that the pre-season focus on defense is bearing fruit. Just like it has with Sammy and Lui. It's really odd how this year all the stuff they're talking about is not just seemingly lip service. There's follow through and results. Positive changes.
The kicking; I agree with Matt that it's a result of the injury recovery.
In general I think we're all just a group of very picky people with a lot of focus dedicated to picking apart each game for areas of improvement.
Personally I am worried about the kicking but I'm never taking it off Croker. It's his to give up. You back your thoroughbreds and he's won / kept us in enough games to deserve that.
I wouldn't be too worried about his confidence. That offload for Cotric was a thing of beauty and you can't pull that off without being confident.
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I'm a massive fan of Toots. The calls for him to be moved to the wing were ridiculous. As was the over the top criticism of his defence and captaincy.

There is something slightly off about his kicking though. It seems to be a technique thing.
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raiderskater wrote: April 24, 2019, 1:09 pm Is this the new version of the Croker's captaincy thread, now that those jerks got what they wanted and we have co-captains?

I can't help but wonder if that's contributed to a lot of things I've noticed this year. Croker said in an interview he understands it's not a demotion but the heart isn't logical. It would fit with his new, seemingly desperate/aggressive defense AND a low-confidence approach to his kicking.
It’s more of a new Crocker to wing thread...
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I'm Bate Man wrote: April 23, 2019, 7:48 pm He’s hit some great pressure kicks over the years, he’ll be back.
Like the 2010 final against the Tigers :shock:
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Kryptonite wrote: April 25, 2019, 5:40 pm
I'm Bate Man wrote: April 23, 2019, 7:48 pm He’s hit some great pressure kicks over the years, he’ll be back.
Like the 2010 final against the Tigers :shock:
2010..... really? :shock:
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Kryptonite wrote: April 25, 2019, 5:40 pm
I'm Bate Man wrote: April 23, 2019, 7:48 pm He’s hit some great pressure kicks over the years, he’ll be back.
Like the 2010 final against the Tigers :shock:
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We're going DEEEEP into the closest.
9 years ago. Good stuff.

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Seiffert82 wrote:I'm a massive fan of Toots. The calls for him to be moved to the wing were ridiculous. As was the over the top criticism of his defence and captaincy.

There is something slightly off about his kicking though. It seems to be a technique thing.
Two words: Aaron Finch

Was told to make technical changes to be a better test bat, screwed his game and his confidence

Went back to the way he used to play and piled on the runs again in ODI cricket

So whether the knee injury has ment technical changes Crokers not coping with, or just down on form leading to some stray habits and poor technique creeping in. He'll probably kick 5/5 this weekend and the point is mute.

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raiderskater wrote: April 25, 2019, 6:37 pm
Kryptonite wrote: April 25, 2019, 5:40 pm
I'm Bate Man wrote: April 23, 2019, 7:48 pm He’s hit some great pressure kicks over the years, he’ll be back.
Like the 2010 final against the Tigers :shock:
I'm not sure what kind of ***** brings that up, but it's not a Raiders fan
It was a sarcasm Raiderskater, lighten up ****
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Kryptonite wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:04 am
raiderskater wrote: April 25, 2019, 6:37 pm
Kryptonite wrote: April 25, 2019, 5:40 pm
I'm Bate Man wrote: April 23, 2019, 7:48 pm He’s hit some great pressure kicks over the years, he’ll be back.
Like the 2010 final against the Tigers :shock:
I'm not sure what kind of ***** brings that up, but it's not a Raiders fan
It was a sarcasm Raiderskater, lighten up ****
Ok fair enough. Caught me too. :lol:
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If he keeps missing I'm afraid we are going to have to let him go..

Kicking is all he has.

We've already established he can't pass and tackle and he's a crappy leader.

It's best for the club..

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-TW- wrote: April 25, 2019, 11:44 pm
Seiffert82 wrote:I'm a massive fan of Toots. The calls for him to be moved to the wing were ridiculous. As was the over the top criticism of his defence and captaincy.

There is something slightly off about his kicking though. It seems to be a technique thing.
Two words: Aaron Finch

Was told to make technical changes to be a better test bat, screwed his game and his confidence

Went back to the way he used to play and piled on the runs again in ODI cricket

So whether the knee injury has ment technical changes Crokers not coping with, or just down on form leading to some stray habits and poor technique creeping in. He'll probably kick 5/5 this weekend and the point is mute.

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Yeah, I'm not sure what is going on with Croker, and to be honest it's not like he's missing a lot of easy shots at goal - the ones he is missing are typically from out wide, but it looks like something has changed a bit recently.

As a lot of people are saying though, he'll probably be back to normal in a week or so and this will be a zephyr in a teacup.

At the end of the day I know Jack Shmidt about goal kicking. I just hope the club is giving Toots assistance if he genuinely needs it. At best he is one of the premier goal kickers in the comp.
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Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
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Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Move him to the wing I'd say.
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Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
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RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:19 am
Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
And yet Munster was goal kicking the other night, badly too
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gangrenous wrote: April 27, 2019, 9:07 am Do you NEEDMEMBERSCODE?
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Kryptonite wrote:
gangrenous wrote: April 27, 2019, 9:07 am Do you NEEDMEMBERSCODE?
Yep, ?
Not to worry, joke goes back to the 2016 finals.
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Matt wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:25 am
RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:19 am
Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
And yet Munster was goal kicking the other night, badly too
Matt, to me that says Bellamy is concerned with Smith's kicking - he may be injured or he may be preparing for life after Smith.
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gangrenous wrote: April 27, 2019, 9:07 am Do you NEEDMEMBERSCODE?
Oh that guy... :roflmao I remember him. I wonder if he'll be back if things go so well this year?

But more to the point, aren't all NRL tickets sold through Ticketek? What are you doing on ticketmaster?
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RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 1:51 pm
Matt wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:25 am
RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:19 am
Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
And yet Munster was goal kicking the other night, badly too
Matt, to me that says Bellamy is concerned with Smith's kicking - he may be injured or he may be preparing for life after Smith.
That could be a theory, yes
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raiderskater wrote: April 27, 2019, 2:37 pm
gangrenous wrote: April 27, 2019, 9:07 am Do you NEEDMEMBERSCODE?
Oh that guy... :roflmao I remember him. I wonder if he'll be back if things go so well this year?

But more to the point, aren't all NRL tickets sold through Ticketek? What are you doing on ticketmaster?
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greeneyed wrote: April 27, 2019, 6:30 pm
raiderskater wrote: April 27, 2019, 2:37 pm
gangrenous wrote: April 27, 2019, 9:07 am Do you NEEDMEMBERSCODE?
Oh that guy... :roflmao I remember him. I wonder if he'll be back if things go so well this year?

But more to the point, aren't all NRL tickets sold through Ticketek? What are you doing on ticketmaster?
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RedRaider wrote:
Matt wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:25 am
RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:19 am
Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
And yet Munster was goal kicking the other night, badly too
Matt, to me that says Bellamy is concerned with Smith's kicking - he may be injured or he may be preparing for life after Smith.
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RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 1:51 pm
Matt wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:25 am
RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:19 am
Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
And yet Munster was goal kicking the other night, badly too
Matt, to me that says Bellamy is concerned with Smith's kicking - he may be injured or he may be preparing for life after Smith.
There has been several articles and quotes through the week from Smith that he is nursing a groin injury and although it won’t keep him out of a game he won’t be goal kicking until it gets 100%.

Although I respect his record I must say he has been kissed on the dick over the years for that record that an above average goal kicker hasn’t been in the Storm side as personally he is a long way down on the list of quality goal kickers in the game.
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Raiders Lim! wrote: April 28, 2019, 7:11 am
RedRaider wrote:
Matt wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:25 am
RedRaider wrote: April 27, 2019, 11:19 am
Matt wrote: April 26, 2019, 8:13 pm Guys Adam Reynolds is considered a sharp shooter. Kicking at low 70% this yr. Career avg is low 80%s. ARey has kicked 2 of the last 8. Has hit the post 3 of those 6 misses. Do Bunnies dump him too???
Even if the 3 that hit the posts had gone through it would still mean a low 62.5 percentage for Adam Reynolds. If they had a better goal kicker in their starting 13, I'm sure the coach would at the very least consider it. Just like Bellamy did when he gave Croft preference over Smith when Storm played the Roosters and Croft returned 4 from 4. If a Coach isn't putting the very best players in the club into their best positions/roles for the good of the side then the Coach is not doing the job imo. In our case, as I have said a number of times, I would not be changing Croker from being our goal kicker.
And yet Munster was goal kicking the other night, badly too
Matt, to me that says Bellamy is concerned with Smith's kicking - he may be injured or he may be preparing for life after Smith.
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When Toots slots em over from all parts today we'll love him again..yes ?
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-PJ- wrote:When Toots slots em over from all parts today we'll love him again..yes ?
No, because I bet at some point he doesn’t pass the ball to Cotric.

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Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
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Yep, back to his best.
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raiderskater wrote: April 28, 2019, 4:03 pm Kicked at 100% today, where are you all now, you cowards?
Right here! He kicked great yesterday, let's hope he can keep it up.

Calling anyone critical of croker's kicking before yesterday's game "cowards" says a lot more about you than it does me.

I started this thread because he had kicked terribly all season and I thought it warranted some discussion. If you're happy with the 22nd best kicker in the NRL statistically before yesterday's game, that's up to you.

However, he kicked well yesterday and let's hope he keeps it going.
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