2019 Rd 5 V Eels: Game Day

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
6
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Raiders 1-12
10
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Re: 2019 Rd 5 V Eels: Game Day

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Sid wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:15 pm Stats tonight from some of the players gunning for a Blues jersey

Cotric
121m
7 tackle breaks
1 line break

Wighton
1 try
3 tackle breaks
28 tackles

Ferguson
1 pre-game vom
1 broken nose
3 busted ribs
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Rick wrote:
Sid wrote:Stats tonight from some of the players gunning for a Blues jersey

Cotric
121m
7 tackle breaks
1 line break

Wighton
1 try
3 tackle breaks
28 tackles

Ferguson
1 pre-game vom
1 broken nose
3 busted ribs
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What about John Bateman from John Batemans bay??? He has to be a walk up start Image


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zim wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:01 pm This is doing the rounds on social media and in my group chat:
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That's from the Bateman head clash.
Sloth looks more like Sam Burgess.
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Coastalraider wrote: April 14, 2019, 8:48 pm
dubby wrote: April 14, 2019, 8:21 pm
Rickmando wrote:
1992 wrote: April 14, 2019, 7:59 pm Canberra Raiders....defence kings in 2019 Image
Well, except for that one time we played a decent team and got towelled up...
Haha, true.

Let's enjoy this moment but.

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There are 2 teams who have come out of the blocks clearly ahead of everyone else this year - and they are the only 2 teams in front of us on the ladder.
I don’t think we should be sad about losing 1 half of footy to the storm early in the season, especially considering how we usually start a campaign.
Gotta remember that the Storm had an 8 day turnaround compared to our 5. It was no wonder they stormed out not the blocks and we looked flat.
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Begbie wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:22 pm
zim wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:01 pm This is doing the rounds on social media and in my group chat:
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That's from the Bateman head clash.
Sloth looks more like Sam Burgess.
Are you saying there might be common genetics there? Crowe has fathered all Burgii and Ferguson?
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Northern Raider wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:34 pm
Coastalraider wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:09 pm
T_R wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:05 pm
The Rickman wrote:
You have to laugh at Jack Wighton though, gee he’s rocks and diamonds, isn’t he
I'm honestly not convinced that he's that bright.
I think he has an immense amount of natural talent - he just struggles to use it naturally... he overthinks a lot of things, and totally underthinks a lot of things, he struggles with balance.

As we saw with his shift to fullback, it doesn’t happen overnight for him. After a couple of years he actually got his head around the position and that confidence got rid of all his brain snaps. Shifting him into a game management position with lots of snap decisions to be made is a definite long term project.
I really liked the way Wighton played today. Very direct and with purpose. Tested the defense quite a few times. Unfortunately far too many errors and silly penalties. If he fixes up those he’ll do a very handy job for us. Let’s see what happens in the upcoming games.
Wighton has always been a bit rocks or diamonds, but at this stage he is playing like he's in a rush. Some of his kicks under pressure are skewed, but when he's settled he has put in some 10/10 bombs and pinpoint long kicks in to the in-goal.

Same as his running game. Does all the hard work to make the break or poke is nose through the line, only to spill the ball or offload to the opposition.

I'm entirely convinced that once he settles into the role and is able to slow it down a peg he has all the tools to be an elite running half.

...and he can tackle like a backrower. **** me he is just about the best defensive half I have seen since Campo.
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His (wighton) physical presence in the defensive line is worth sticking with. He is getting pinged a little for his aggression but he hits like a tank for a guy of his size. He wont win them all if a huge centre or backrower can isolate him but he really holds his own.

He also handed out a big dont argue to one of the eels in attack.

There is a lot to like, his biggest problem has always been his errors always seem to be absolute insane ones rather than the odd dropped ball.
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Once it clicks he will be something that could take it to the storm or Roosters. We need to do something different and he is it.


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3 on the trot..... Officially best defense in the league..... What a time to be alive.


Shame about Tapine, hope he pulls up alright. If he and Havili are both out next week, we might be a little thin against the broncs.
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Pete Cash wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:34 pm His (wighton) physical presence in the defensive line is worth sticking with. He is getting pinged a little for his aggression but he hits like a tank for a guy of his size. He wont win them all if a huge centre or backrower can isolate him but he really holds his own.

He also handed out a big dont argue to one of the eels in attack.

There is a lot to like, his biggest problem has always been his errors always seem to be absolute insane ones rather than the odd dropped ball.
That Eel was Moses if I'm not mistaken. Between that and him working Furgo over... He's just about got my 3 points lol
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Seiffert82 wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:30 pm
Northern Raider wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:34 pm
Coastalraider wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:09 pm
T_R wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:05 pm
The Rickman wrote:
You have to laugh at Jack Wighton though, gee he’s rocks and diamonds, isn’t he
I'm honestly not convinced that he's that bright.
I think he has an immense amount of natural talent - he just struggles to use it naturally... he overthinks a lot of things, and totally underthinks a lot of things, he struggles with balance.

As we saw with his shift to fullback, it doesn’t happen overnight for him. After a couple of years he actually got his head around the position and that confidence got rid of all his brain snaps. Shifting him into a game management position with lots of snap decisions to be made is a definite long term project.
I really liked the way Wighton played today. Very direct and with purpose. Tested the defense quite a few times. Unfortunately far too many errors and silly penalties. If he fixes up those he’ll do a very handy job for us. Let’s see what happens in the upcoming games.
Wighton has always been a bit rocks or diamonds, but at this stage he is playing like he's in a rush. Some of his kicks under pressure are skewed, but when he's settled he has put in some 10/10 bombs and pinpoint long kicks in to the in-goal.

Same as his running game. Does all the hard work to make the break or poke is nose through the line, only to spill the ball or offload to the opposition.

I'm entirely convinced that once he settles into the role and is able to slow it down a peg he has all the tools to be an elite running half.

...and he can tackle like a backrower. **** me he is just about the best defensive half I have seen since Campo.
Jack Wighton has one setting and it is MAX POWER. Just how he is. Notice that the bombs and long kicks and big hits are all things he can do at MAX POWER. Then he roosts one out or carries on too long after the tackle because JACK WIGHTON.

I agree with the other posters that it takes him considerable time to adjust to a new role. That is fine and normal- not everyone is an instant hit at everything. I have every confidence he can improve his half play. He'll still be a bull at a gate, but he'll improve as he has always done- slowly, not always without hiccups or month long downturns, but he can become very good as a half (very good, not an all out master). It might take another year.

Thing is, he's a FG talent. In his worst games he still shows he can bust open a well organised, determined defence (and the Eels were), iron out blokes twice his size and make an impact on the game with sheer energy and physicality. If I hadn't seen him shift to FB so well I'd have more doubts but I think he can be the same as a half- very good, elite in some categories/facets and average in others.

He's old enough now we know his faults and what he can adjust to. He'll drop the revs a bit once his nerves settle but he's always going to be more CAPS than LUKE PAGE.
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rovert wrote: April 15, 2019, 12:18 am
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Been on the wagon since before round 1.

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Not great vision of Joe Tapine's injury...

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dubby wrote: April 14, 2019, 8:21 pm
Rickmando wrote:
1992 wrote: April 14, 2019, 7:59 pm Canberra Raiders....defence kings in 2019 Image
Well, except for that one time we played a decent team and got towelled up...
Haha, true.

Let's enjoy this moment but.

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Seiffert82 wrote: April 14, 2019, 11:30 pm
Northern Raider wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:34 pm
Coastalraider wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:09 pm
T_R wrote: April 14, 2019, 9:05 pm
The Rickman wrote:
You have to laugh at Jack Wighton though, gee he’s rocks and diamonds, isn’t he
I'm honestly not convinced that he's that bright.
I think he has an immense amount of natural talent - he just struggles to use it naturally... he overthinks a lot of things, and totally underthinks a lot of things, he struggles with balance.

As we saw with his shift to fullback, it doesn’t happen overnight for him. After a couple of years he actually got his head around the position and that confidence got rid of all his brain snaps. Shifting him into a game management position with lots of snap decisions to be made is a definite long term project.
I really liked the way Wighton played today. Very direct and with purpose. Tested the defense quite a few times. Unfortunately far too many errors and silly penalties. If he fixes up those he’ll do a very handy job for us. Let’s see what happens in the upcoming games.
Wighton has always been a bit rocks or diamonds, but at this stage he is playing like he's in a rush. Some of his kicks under pressure are skewed, but when he's settled he has put in some 10/10 bombs and pinpoint long kicks in to the in-goal.

Same as his running game. Does all the hard work to make the break or poke is nose through the line, only to spill the ball or offload to the opposition.

I'm entirely convinced that once he settles into the role and is able to slow it down a peg he has all the tools to be an elite running half.

...and he can tackle like a backrower. **** me he is just about the best defensive half I have seen since Campo.
The impression I'm getting watching Jack this season so far is that he seems a little desperate to prove himself. To prove that he deserves a second chance, that we made the right call by not getting rid of him. And so he's rushing it. As you say, when he's settled, he's much better. And even when he's not, if he does make a mistake, he defends it aggressively, which is always pleasing.

I thought Croker was in good shape again last night. That intercept - and then he was caught by three Eels - and then suddenly he was running again was a thing of beauty, and defensively he was all over it.

The forward pack were all very good, but I thought Sia was outstanding.

Williams also seemed a little rocks-and-diamonds last night, though he settled down in the second half. Hodgo was straight-up rocks and needs to trust his halves more.

Oh, and I'm still trying and failing not to smug-grin at all the shots of Ferguson's nose. How much trouble do we think Jack's in for, uh, testing the integrity of Ferguson's tape?
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How good would Jack be if he didn’t have brain explosions and make his customary errors every game.
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Great win. My only concern is this physical style will take its toll over the course of the season, so Stuart needs to make a concerted effort rotating the squad. We have some good forwards playing for Mounties (Horsburgh, Guler, Murchie) who can come in and do a job for a couple of weeks, and some decent backs too (Simonsson, Oldfield, Bateman can play a couple of games in the centres).
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While watching the game last night I said to myself" Jack hasn't kicked out on the full yet"

Then...

Jack kicks out on the full..Love ya JACKYBOI !!!

Also, the penalty against Jack for the facial after smashing that dude was just plain soft...
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TongueFTW wrote: April 15, 2019, 7:26 am Great win. My only concern is this physical style will take its toll over the course of the season, so Stuart needs to make a concerted effort rotating the squad. We have some good forwards playing for Mounties (Horsburgh, Guler, Murchie) who can come in and do a job for a couple of weeks, and some decent backs too (Simonsson, Oldfield, Bateman can play a couple of games in the centres).
Or..

Our best 17 can go hammer and tong for 30 weeks and win this damn comp !!!!
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TongueFTW wrote: April 15, 2019, 7:26 am Great win. My only concern is this physical style will take its toll over the course of the season, so Stuart needs to make a concerted effort rotating the squad. We have some good forwards playing for Mounties (Horsburgh, Guler, Murchie) who can come in and do a job for a couple of weeks, and some decent backs too (Simonsson, Oldfield, Bateman can play a couple of games in the centres).
We have some advantages in that we won't be hit by Origin like some other clubs and although Sutton and Bateman played in a softer comp, they do play a lot more games every year.
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I had a great time at the footy last night. It was amazing to see the defense hold up for the full 80 minutes and keep them to 0. Can't wait to watch the replay tonight.

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-PJ- wrote: April 15, 2019, 7:26 am While watching the game last night I said to myself" Jack hasn't kicked out on the full yet"

Then...

Jack kicks out on the full..Love ya JACKYBOI !!!

Also, the penalty against Jack for the facial after smashing that dude was just plain soft...
I have a feeling that penalty had just as much to do with the Fergo massage earlier as the elbow in that tackle. Whether he copped a warning after the refs saw the replay on fergo or not, I think it was drawing a line that we needed to clean that stuff up - I commented to someone last night that Ennis has obviously bought some grubbiness to the squad.
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Speaking of Origin candidates, shouldn't Leilua also be in the picture if Roberts is in doubt? Our whole backline minus the halfback and the kiwis should be considered as possibilities particularly if we keep up our form and continue to improve
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Coastalraider wrote: April 15, 2019, 8:06 am
-PJ- wrote: April 15, 2019, 7:26 am While watching the game last night I said to myself" Jack hasn't kicked out on the full yet"

Then...

Jack kicks out on the full..Love ya JACKYBOI !!!

Also, the penalty against Jack for the facial after smashing that dude was just plain soft...
I have a feeling that penalty had just as much to do with the Fergo massage earlier as the elbow in that tackle. Whether he copped a warning after the refs saw the replay on fergo or not, I think it was drawing a line that we needed to clean that stuff up - I commented to someone last night that Ennis has obviously bought some grubbiness to the squad.
There was really nothing in it when penalised... but I was not too impressed by a facial on a bloke with a broken nose.
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I never thought I'd see a day when a Canberra Raiders side has conceded 44 in 5 games and the best defence in the comp. Pinch me I'm dreaming.

The trade off is our attack is fairly ordinary, it'll only get better though. If it means winning games of Rugby League I'll take a few less points scored. Being in the top 3 attacking sides hasn't got us that far the last few years. Loads of improvement in us and we're sitting 3rd. Happy days!
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greeneyed wrote: April 15, 2019, 8:15 am
Coastalraider wrote: April 15, 2019, 8:06 am
-PJ- wrote: April 15, 2019, 7:26 am While watching the game last night I said to myself" Jack hasn't kicked out on the full yet"

Then...

Jack kicks out on the full..Love ya JACKYBOI !!!

Also, the penalty against Jack for the facial after smashing that dude was just plain soft...
I have a feeling that penalty had just as much to do with the Fergo massage earlier as the elbow in that tackle. Whether he copped a warning after the refs saw the replay on fergo or not, I think it was drawing a line that we needed to clean that stuff up - I commented to someone last night that Ennis has obviously bought some grubbiness to the squad.
There was really nothing in it when penalised... but I was not too impressed by a facial on a bloke with a broken nose.
I was pretty **** impressed by it myself
The nose is broken, you're going to play on, it's up to us to make every time you touch the ball we make you reconsider that decision. Also **** Fergo forever.
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greeneyed wrote: April 15, 2019, 8:15 am
Coastalraider wrote: April 15, 2019, 8:06 am
-PJ- wrote: April 15, 2019, 7:26 am While watching the game last night I said to myself" Jack hasn't kicked out on the full yet"

Then...

Jack kicks out on the full..Love ya JACKYBOI !!!

Also, the penalty against Jack for the facial after smashing that dude was just plain soft...
I have a feeling that penalty had just as much to do with the Fergo massage earlier as the elbow in that tackle. Whether he copped a warning after the refs saw the replay on fergo or not, I think it was drawing a line that we needed to clean that stuff up - I commented to someone last night that Ennis has obviously bought some grubbiness to the squad.
There was really nothing in it when penalised... but I was not too impressed by a facial on a bloke with a broken nose.
You want to stay on the field with a broken nose, expect to cop attention to it.
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Yeah I gotta agree here, Fergo ran the risk by staying on the field injured... you will always be a target if the opposition knows you're playing on injured imo
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I was pretty scathing of all the one-off the ruck crashball plays live last night, but this morning with the benefit of a bit of hindsight gee whiz that was some good strategy from Stuart.

When you consider they've built their pack around Paulo and other big hitters, you really only needed to do to them what teams did to us all last season.

I mean, we had them so gassed at halftime that Rapana was able to openly say what the gameplan was in his interview as he walked off because they were too far gone by that point.
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Watched it again , it is even more impressive 2nd time round

The defence was relentless for 80min , we really didn't let them get going. Our forwards are making good metres , we marched up filed with ease. We do it better now without the big boppers.

We also arent making a lot of errors , even less in our own half

Im really enjoying how we have changed the way we play. We are playing to a game plan and sticking to it.
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Mrs Bone managed to turn the foxrel off when I had it paused so only saw the last 20mins.
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Re: 2019 Rd 5 V Eels: Game Day

Post by Aero »

Wighton topping the league in a couple of stat's and top 4 in another..

If he can get these under control, it'd go a long way to helping our team throughout the season, especially when facing the top teamsImage

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