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Williams or Sezer?

Post by Green2ooF » April 9, 2019, 7:06 am

Who should wear the number 7 this Sunday, Sam Willians or Aiden Sezer?
I’m of the belief that it’s Sammy’s until his form or injury warrants that he loses it! If Sezer is chosen and we lose against my nemesis the Eels, I will be unhappy, Thoughts?
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by edwahu » April 9, 2019, 7:13 am

I wouldn't make a marginal change to a winning team. Williams will need to defend a lot better this week though.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by gergreg » April 9, 2019, 7:23 am

Williams is better in attack and Sezer is better in defence. Who cares, there isn't really a lot separating the two.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by simo » April 9, 2019, 7:35 am

In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by reptar » April 9, 2019, 7:57 am

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Rickmando » April 9, 2019, 8:09 am

I think South Park did an episode in a similar vein???

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Roger Kenworthy » April 9, 2019, 8:10 am

simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Why? Sezer has literally added nothing in attack for a long time now. I'm of the mind that given our defence is performing at a very high level we stick with Williams. If Williams defence starts costing us games it becomes a discussion, until then he's the man as he does everything on attack better than Sezer.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by PigRickman » April 9, 2019, 8:14 am

simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Agreed.
Whilst the team is winning, Sam holds the spot. Up to Sezer to work his way back into the team. That's what i'd do.

This #7 jersey is going to swap around at least 3-4 more times this year IMO. I think we're just going to constantly see change there. Because exactly this... Sezer wasnt playing particularly well, got hurt, now Sam's in... but we saw last week how problematic that is and at some point the change will be made because this is trying to be a defence first team... and around we'll go again, Sezer probably wont play that well, or he'll get hurt, and Sam will have good form at Mounties and in he comes and it'll again be a matter of time before his defensive issues are brought to the forefront and Sezer is back.

I wont be shocked if Sezer is brought straight back in, Williams hasnt set the world on fire. He's played the knights and Cowboys. Against both squads, the only thing keeping them in the game in the first half was that our halfback didnt really stand up. The knights game was horrific on that front. William's play hasn't translated to significantly better or more creative attack, and his defensive issues were on display big time last week.

Again, it's not what i'd do, because George Williams is coming and i dont care anymore about trying to build either of these two up, so for mine, if you're keeping a spot warm, i think you stay with a winning team. But if Sezer is healthy, it wouldnt in the least bit shock me to see Stuart name him.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by gergreg » April 9, 2019, 8:19 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Why? Sezer has literally added nothing in attack for a long time now. I'm of the mind that given our defence is performing at a very high level we stick with Williams. If Williams defence starts costing us games it becomes a discussion, until then he's the man as he does everything on attack better than Sezer.
IMO if Sezer plays last week we hold Cowboys to zero and we probably score two tries less. I think it's probably easier to try and fix Williams defensive issues over fixing Sezer's attack.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Roger Kenworthy » April 9, 2019, 8:20 am

PigRickman wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:14 am
simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Agreed.
Whilst the team is winning, Sam holds the spot. Up to Sezer to work his way back into the team. That's what i'd do.

This #7 jersey is going to swap around at least 3-4 more times this year IMO. I think we're just going to constantly see change there. Because exactly this... Sezer wasnt playing particularly well, got hurt, now Sam's in... but we saw last week how problematic that is and at some point the change will be made because this is trying to be a defence first team... and around we'll go again, Sezer probably wont play that well, or he'll get hurt, and Sam will have good form at Mounties and in he comes and it'll again be a matter of time before his defensive issues are brought to the forefront and Sezer is back.

I wont be shocked if Sezer is brought straight back in, Williams hasnt set the world on fire. He's played the knights and Cowboys. Against both squads, the only thing keeping them in the game in the first half was that our halfback didnt really stand up. The knights game was horrific on that front. William's play hasn't translated to significantly better or more creative attack, and his defensive issues were on display big time last week.

Again, it's not what i'd do, because George Williams is coming and i dont care anymore about trying to build either of these two up, so for mine, if you're keeping a spot warm, i think you stay with a winning team. But if Sezer is healthy, it wouldnt in the least bit shock me to see Stuart name him.
Granted it was the Storm, but we looked rudderless in Sezer's last match as we have so often with him controlling things. He's not an organising half to anyone with half a clue. If Williams gets the start against a top 8 side this weekend and we look equally lost at sea in attack then by all means bring Sezer back, until then it's not really a debate.

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Post by T_R » April 9, 2019, 8:21 am

Williams for me, but you could honestly toss a coin
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by simo » April 9, 2019, 8:24 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:10 am
simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Why? Sezer has literally added nothing in attack for a long time now. I'm of the mind that given our defence is performing at a very high level we stick with Williams. If Williams defence starts costing us games it becomes a discussion, until then he's the man as he does everything on attack better than Sezer.
Williams defence literally keeps other teams in the game. Also, besides his try i havent seen a williams contribute some astounding level of attack that hes miles ahead of sezer.
Anyway, i said sezer needs to earn the spot off sam so i dont see what the issue is?
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by PigRickman » April 9, 2019, 8:26 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:20 am
Granted it was the Storm, but we looked rudderless in Sezer's last match as we have so often with him controlling things. He's not an organising half to anyone with half a clue. If Williams gets the start against a top 8 side this weekend and we look equally lost at sea in attack then by all means bring Sezer back, until then it's not really a debate.
Yeah look i think that's fair. I think we've spent large parts of the last 2 games without a rudder too. Had Williams provided one, those games are done at the half.
I think if we played the storm again this week with Sam we'd see similar results. But as said, you dont change a winning team. Sezer's proven that he's not good enough to warrant that treatment. It's William's spot until Sezer plays his way into it, or more likely, Williams plays his way out of it.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by simo » April 9, 2019, 8:31 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:20 am
PigRickman wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:14 am
simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Agreed.
Whilst the team is winning, Sam holds the spot. Up to Sezer to work his way back into the team. That's what i'd do.

This #7 jersey is going to swap around at least 3-4 more times this year IMO. I think we're just going to constantly see change there. Because exactly this... Sezer wasnt playing particularly well, got hurt, now Sam's in... but we saw last week how problematic that is and at some point the change will be made because this is trying to be a defence first team... and around we'll go again, Sezer probably wont play that well, or he'll get hurt, and Sam will have good form at Mounties and in he comes and it'll again be a matter of time before his defensive issues are brought to the forefront and Sezer is back.

I wont be shocked if Sezer is brought straight back in, Williams hasnt set the world on fire. He's played the knights and Cowboys. Against both squads, the only thing keeping them in the game in the first half was that our halfback didnt really stand up. The knights game was horrific on that front. William's play hasn't translated to significantly better or more creative attack, and his defensive issues were on display big time last week.

Again, it's not what i'd do, because George Williams is coming and i dont care anymore about trying to build either of these two up, so for mine, if you're keeping a spot warm, i think you stay with a winning team. But if Sezer is healthy, it wouldnt in the least bit shock me to see Stuart name him.
Granted it was the Storm, but we looked rudderless in Sezer's last match as we have so often with him controlling things. He's not an organising half to anyone with half a clue. If Williams gets the start against a top 8 side this weekend and we look equally lost at sea in attack then by all means bring Sezer back, until then it's not really a debate.
So, despite disagreeing, you agree? Very good
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Roger Kenworthy » April 9, 2019, 9:02 am

simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:24 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:10 am
simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Why? Sezer has literally added nothing in attack for a long time now. I'm of the mind that given our defence is performing at a very high level we stick with Williams. If Williams defence starts costing us games it becomes a discussion, until then he's the man as he does everything on attack better than Sezer.
Williams defence literally keeps other teams in the game. Also, besides his try i havent seen a williams contribute some astounding level of attack that hes miles ahead of sezer.
Anyway, i said sezer needs to earn the spot off sam so i dont see what the issue is?
I think he has a more composed kicking game (I'm used to seeing at least 2 panic kicks a game straight into defenders from Sezer) and an a ability to not stall the attack as Sezer can. Sezer overplays his hand so much in attack he just ends up getting in the way.

As pig said they are much of a muchness and both are far from ideal. But with Jack providing the defense first approach I prefer Williams for balance.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Roger Kenworthy » April 9, 2019, 9:04 am

simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:31 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:20 am
PigRickman wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:14 am
simo wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:35 am
In a straight out selection id chose sezer every time. However, you can not dump sam for sezer if you want to maintain the “competition for spots” mentality. Sezer back through a mounties mom performance only
Agreed.
Whilst the team is winning, Sam holds the spot. Up to Sezer to work his way back into the team. That's what i'd do.

This #7 jersey is going to swap around at least 3-4 more times this year IMO. I think we're just going to constantly see change there. Because exactly this... Sezer wasnt playing particularly well, got hurt, now Sam's in... but we saw last week how problematic that is and at some point the change will be made because this is trying to be a defence first team... and around we'll go again, Sezer probably wont play that well, or he'll get hurt, and Sam will have good form at Mounties and in he comes and it'll again be a matter of time before his defensive issues are brought to the forefront and Sezer is back.

I wont be shocked if Sezer is brought straight back in, Williams hasnt set the world on fire. He's played the knights and Cowboys. Against both squads, the only thing keeping them in the game in the first half was that our halfback didnt really stand up. The knights game was horrific on that front. William's play hasn't translated to significantly better or more creative attack, and his defensive issues were on display big time last week.

Again, it's not what i'd do, because George Williams is coming and i dont care anymore about trying to build either of these two up, so for mine, if you're keeping a spot warm, i think you stay with a winning team. But if Sezer is healthy, it wouldnt in the least bit shock me to see Stuart name him.
Granted it was the Storm, but we looked rudderless in Sezer's last match as we have so often with him controlling things. He's not an organising half to anyone with half a clue. If Williams gets the start against a top 8 side this weekend and we look equally lost at sea in attack then by all means bring Sezer back, until then it's not really a debate.
So, despite disagreeing, you agree? Very good
Nope because in a straight out selection I'd never say Sezer every time. Sezer hasn't done anything in his time with us to warrant winning any selection debate every time.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by afgtnk » April 9, 2019, 9:19 am

Williams is a better halfback than Sezer, end of really. Both are clearly not ideal first choice halves though.

Infact, Sezer shouldn't even be considered a halfback - he simply doesn't think or act like one. The only things that you could say he's better at than Williams are defence and long passing. And even then, his defence isn't that good.

Ricky has made some very astute recruitment decisions since he's been here but halves clearly hasn't been one of them, save for Austin's debut season with us.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Azza » April 9, 2019, 9:43 am

I don't blame Ricky for recruiting Sezer though. At the Titans he seemed a very promising halfback with the world at his feet... he just hasn't really kicked on.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by edwahu » April 9, 2019, 10:28 am

Sezer is one of the better defensive halves in the comp, Williams is one of the worst. It's a huge gap. Having said that WIlliams did get a pass mark defensively in his first game, so perhaps last week was a one off and there may be some improvement in that area this year.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Roger Kenworthy » April 9, 2019, 10:28 am

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I don't blame Ricky for recruiting Sezer though. At the Titans he seemed a very promising halfback with the world at his feet... he just hasn't really kicked on.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by BadnMean » April 9, 2019, 10:30 am

This year, I'd take Williams on what I've seen.

We look a better team with Williams in the side. We look clunky with Sezer and he has no running game- Sam at least keeps them honest with a decent step and dart.

I honestly don't know what people expect our halves to do- we've looked better in the red zone with Williams and at best our halves get one play each in the red zone- and that after Hodgo has taken a valuable second away with a quick look and often a few steps to decide if he'll play himself or not. There's not much quick clean ball. They are an afterthought.

More importantly, his kicking has been excellent. Sezer's kicking has been poor to average, Williams has been excellent. I don't think it's fair to say Williams defence has kept teams in the games- left edge has been worse and I can only remember one try cause from Williams.

But I would say Williams kicking has been instrumental in giving us the field position to control games. He hits the sideline when needed and he's found grass and the corners almost every time. He's our only kicker who isn't currently putting them over the sideline on the full on the regular too.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by simo » April 9, 2019, 11:02 am

the team has looked better the last2 weeks. Im more inclined to pin that on the team being in their 3rd and 4th game than williams being far superior to sezer.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by zim » April 9, 2019, 11:03 am

PigRickman wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:26 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
April 9, 2019, 8:20 am
Granted it was the Storm, but we looked rudderless in Sezer's last match as we have so often with him controlling things. He's not an organising half to anyone with half a clue. If Williams gets the start against a top 8 side this weekend and we look equally lost at sea in attack then by all means bring Sezer back, until then it's not really a debate.
Yeah look i think that's fair. I think we've spent large parts of the last 2 games without a rudder too. Had Williams provided one, those games are done at the half.
I think if we played the storm again this week with Sam we'd see similar results. But as said, you dont change a winning team. Sezer's proven that he's not good enough to warrant that treatment. It's William's spot until Sezer plays his way into it, or more likely, Williams plays his way out of it.
I think the forwards had far more to do with that game than the halves. When your forwards are getting bullied like that even a Cronk or a Thurston is going to have a hard time.

I agree with others in keeping Williams in the winning team and letting Sezer spend some time with Mounties.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by PigRickman » April 9, 2019, 11:04 am

That and not playing the Melbourne Storm. :lol:
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Northern Raider » April 9, 2019, 11:29 am

Green2ooF wrote:
April 9, 2019, 7:06 am
Who should wear the number 7 this Sunday, Sam Willians or Aiden Sezer?
I’m of the belief that it’s Sammy’s until his form or injury warrants that he loses it! If Sezer is chosen and we lose against my nemesis the Eels, I will be unhappy, Thoughts?
...and if Williams is chosen and we lose to Eels you will be happy? :hmmm
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Northern Raider » April 9, 2019, 11:44 am

PigRickman wrote:
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That and not playing the Melbourne Storm. :lol:
Fair to say the opposition in our 3 wins has been pretty ordinary.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by BJ » April 9, 2019, 11:54 am

Why can’t we have unlimited interchange? Sezer in Defence and Williams in attack.

I’m happy Ricky has to make this decision, not me.

I would have definitely locked in Williams, if I hadn’t seen the two try scoring defence errors he made last weekend.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by LP Raider » April 9, 2019, 12:08 pm

Simply, whoever has a higher dollar value in supercoach that week.

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Post by The Rickman » April 9, 2019, 12:22 pm

I'd stick with Williams for now. Sezer to come back in Mounties and prove he's got the hunger to force his way back into the team.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Northern Raider » April 9, 2019, 12:35 pm

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Simply, whoever has a higher dollar value in supercoach that week.
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Post by RTW » April 9, 2019, 1:34 pm

Both are not the answer. The Broncos have 3 of the best young halves in the game under contract yet persist with Nikorima.

Go to the player managers and offer them the rest of the year in first grade. Guaranteed you will get one of them released.

The obvious risk is you will end up with an inconsistent weak defender.....which we already seem to have!


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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Raider Azz » April 9, 2019, 1:54 pm

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Both are not the answer. The Broncos have 3 of the best young halves in the game under contract yet persist with Nikorima.

Go to the player managers and offer them the rest of the year in first grade. Guaranteed you will get one of them released.

The obvious risk is you will end up with an inconsistent weak defender.....which we already seem to have!


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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by -PJ- » April 9, 2019, 2:58 pm

Williams..for now.
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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Matt » April 9, 2019, 3:02 pm

Sammy. Halfback seemed a bit of a coin toss to start the yr. In this case the old adage 'you dont change a winning side' has to apply.

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Re: Williams or Sezer

Post by Timbo » April 9, 2019, 3:16 pm

I don't think Williams' kicking game is so much better than Sezer's that it makes up for Williams being a turnstile. Has to be Sezer for me.
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