2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Cowboys 13+
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Wiggy wrote: April 8, 2019, 9:57 am
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Dude, you are not a hero for going onto a Canberra Raiders fan board, and pointing out that fans of the Canberra Raiders, can be biased towards the Canberra Raiders.

Being objective about footy is dumb IMO. Objectively, it's just 17 strangers vs 17 strangers throwing an air filled balloon around a piece of grass on the other side of the county.

Being biased is what makes footy fun.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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edwahu wrote: April 8, 2019, 10:06 am
Wiggy wrote: April 8, 2019, 9:57 am
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Dude, you are not a hero for going onto a Canberra Raiders fan board, and pointing out that fans of the Canberra Raiders, can be biased towards the Canberra Raiders.

Being objective about footy is dumb IMO. Objectively, it's just 17 strangers vs 17 strangers throwing an air filled balloon around a piece of grass on the other side of the county.

Being biased is what makes footy fun.
You are a wise man Wiggy.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Yeah we got a lucky one there. Hope our luck holds for the parra game :D
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Wiggy wrote: Dude, you are not a hero for going onto a Canberra Raiders fan board, and pointing out that fans of the Canberra Raiders, can be biased towards the Canberra Raiders.
Particularly when he doubles down by getting it wrong himself.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Wiggy wrote: April 8, 2019, 9:57 am
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Dude, you are not a hero for going onto a Canberra Raiders fan board, and pointing out that fans of the Canberra Raiders, can be biased towards the Canberra Raiders.

Being objective about footy is dumb IMO. Objectively, it's just 17 strangers vs 17 strangers throwing an air filled balloon around a piece of grass on the other side of the county.

Being biased is what makes footy fun.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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zim wrote: April 8, 2019, 11:12 am
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Yeah we got a lucky one there. Hope our luck holds for the parra game :D
You know what? The way we're defending our line, i dont think we need that much luck against a team like Parra
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Well Pigman has argued for offside On kick tries, when the replay has shown otherwise and he has also defended the referees decision when even the referees boss has later admitted they got it wrong.

I’d say the truth lies somewhere between Raiders fans views of poor refereeing and Pigmans defence of referees at the other end of the scale.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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gangrenous wrote: April 8, 2019, 11:52 am
Wiggy wrote: Dude, you are not a hero for going onto a Canberra Raiders fan board, and pointing out that fans of the Canberra Raiders, can be biased towards the Canberra Raiders.
Particularly when he doubles down by getting it wrong himself.
:lol: Post the screen caps again, Gangers! i need a good laugh
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 12:31 pm
zim wrote: April 8, 2019, 11:12 am
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Yeah we got a lucky one there. Hope our luck holds for the parra game :D
You know what? The way we're defending our line, i dont think we need that much luck against a team like Parra
I agree I think we can beat them without luck but that right edge has me worried. Paulo generally like's to hang out wide on our other side (Wighton) but it's easy enough for him to target Williams instead. Moses has been really good at getting Shaun Lane 1 on 1 with his opposite half too. Any smaller half is going to struggle with either of those guys. On the other side Salmon is surprisingly evasive and hard to bring down.
If parra get some good ball our centres and second rowers are going to have a lot of hard decisions to make.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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PigRickman wrote:
gangrenous wrote: April 8, 2019, 11:52 am
Wiggy wrote: Dude, you are not a hero for going onto a Canberra Raiders fan board, and pointing out that fans of the Canberra Raiders, can be biased towards the Canberra Raiders.
Particularly when he doubles down by getting it wrong himself.
:lol: Post the screen caps again, Gangers! i need a good laugh
Tell us more about the Hodgson strip non-penalty.

Tell us more about how you sin bin players for obeying referee instructions.

And once you’re there maybe you’ll understand the point of the screen cap is not whether you think he’s back 10m, or back 8m. But showing it was clearly not the howler you made it out to be.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Gangers. You posted the screen cap arguing he was back 10 metres!!!
Now you freely accept he wasnt close to it.
Hahahah. Stop it.

The GG2MP has been set now, friend.
And i've now made an amendment, a referee **** up that negates a mandatory sin bin is not a howler! This policy strengthens itself by your every post!

(BTW, you BEMOANED the Sharks try last year when all they did was obey the referee's instructions hahah. This is quite a spot your putting yourself )
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2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Have you hit your head this week?

I said none of those things. Feel free to quote directly. Meanwhile you can’t at all defend what you have said.

My view is in no way in conflict with the Sharks decision.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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gangrenous wrote: April 6, 2019, 8:34 pm Tap taken 15m out

First contact initiated by Papalii, Papalii looks to have retreated to roughly the 5m.

Arguably fine.
That's you declaring Papalii retreated back to the 5m when your own screen shots clearly show he didnt sniff it.
Strong start!
greeneyed wrote: April 6, 2019, 10:06 pm Live, I though it was probably well off side and a sin bin. That shows it was pretty close and if, as someone has suggested, the referee called he's run 10... I'm not going to argue.
That's GE declaring he wont argue with an officials call if it's close
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gangrenous wrote: April 7, 2019, 8:46 am You were pointing out supposed howlers.

Your argument is that the ref calling a player on side at the 8m mark is a heinous error of the highest order.
Thats you, saying it's not a howler or a heinous error that a referee calls a man onside at 8 metres, not 10. And mocking the idea that missing a obvious professional foul, which would result in 10 in the bin as being a howler.
I like this even more. Clear definitions. 2 metres offside is actually not a major issue, and missing a professional foul, which would be a top 3 in any game changing play, it not a heinous error.
gangrenous wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:07 pm And once you’re there maybe you’ll understand the point of the screen cap is not whether you think he’s back 10m, or back 8m. But showing it was clearly not the howler you made it out to be.
And this one reinforces that a) you actually accept he didnt get back 10, despite the first post above. And b) that the error is not howler.

That's the standard the GG2MP has set my dude. Offsides within 2 metres are just par for the course, missed professional fouls, par for the course. Close calls (which 8/10 metres, is a nice lovely 20% variance) within a 20% variance, we aint gonna argue with the officials about that!

I like it Gangers. I like it a lot.
:D :D

Now talk dirty to me, you sexy little minx.
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:50 pm
gangrenous wrote: April 6, 2019, 8:34 pm Tap taken 15m out

First contact initiated by Papalii, Papalii looks to have retreated to roughly the 5m.

Arguably fine.
That's you declaring Papalii retreated back to the 5m when your own screen shots clearly show he didnt sniff it.
Strong start!
I'll buy you a dictionary for christmas. You can look up the words "roughly", "arguably", "clearly", and then re-evaluate this poor excuse for an argument.
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:50 pm
greeneyed wrote: April 6, 2019, 10:06 pm Live, I though it was probably well off side and a sin bin. That shows it was pretty close and if, as someone has suggested, the referee called he's run 10... I'm not going to argue.
That's GE declaring he wont argue with an officials call if it's close
Getting better!
Not my post, you're pretty desperate for something to latch onto though.
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:50 pm
gangrenous wrote: April 7, 2019, 8:46 am You were pointing out supposed howlers.

Your argument is that the ref calling a player on side at the 8m mark is a heinous error of the highest order.
Thats you, saying it's not a howler or a heinous error that a referee calls a man onside at 8 metres, not 10. And mocking the idea that missing a obvious professional foul, which would result in 10 in the bin as being a howler.
I like this even more. Clear definitions. 2 metres offside is actually not a major issue, and missing a professional foul, which would be a top 3 in any game changing play, it not a heinous error.
Nope, again first grade comprehension clearly not your thing. It's your argument he's clearly offside, not mine.

Based on the screenshot, where the referee stood, and where the penalty was given I think there's plenty of grey in this decision which has led to the referee making a call that Papalii has sufficiently retreated. You like yelling PROFESSIONAL FOUL a lot, but as others have pointed out to you, you can't sin bin a bloke for engaging when the referee tells him he can. Say the ref doesn't call that for another second or two, you do not know that Papalii would still have engaged there!

By extending your logic any time a referee sets the 10m line 9m back from a penalty because he hasn't judged it perfectly, and the team line up with him, we should put them all in the sin bin.
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:50 pm
gangrenous wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:07 pm And once you’re there maybe you’ll understand the point of the screen cap is not whether you think he’s back 10m, or back 8m. But showing it was clearly not the howler you made it out to be.
And this one reinforces that a) you actually accept he didnt get back 10, despite the first post above. And b) that the error is not howler.
It doesn't really matter if he's back 10m or 9m or even 8m which is as far as you dare to stretch it. It's close, can't be a professional foul, and it's hard to see how the outcome would have changed had the referee called it slightly later. The player wasn't getting to the line.

So, you going to address the elephant in the room that you based your whole argument on nonsense about a Hodgson strip and how players should be sin binned for following the refs directions?
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Re: 2019 Rd 4 V Cowboys: Game Day

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Bruh, if a quick tap is taken and a man initiates contact from an offside position, it not only can be a professional foul, it's mandatory that it is. :lol:

I've never argued that a player should be binned for for following refs directions. I've argued rather successfully care of your own screen caps that THE REFS **** UP IN OUR FAVOUR! :lol:
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Re Hodgson strip
Because I’m reasonable, I already addressed this, Gangers
PigRickman wrote: April 6, 2019, 7:18 pm
Pete Cash wrote: April 6, 2019, 7:03 pm
PigRickman wrote: April 6, 2019, 6:56 pm
Rick wrote: April 6, 2019, 6:43 pm Copped some crap calls and still smashed them. What an amazing team effort!


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OK. I dont recall any massive calls going against us. I do recall Papalii not even being penalised when he should have been sin binned, and i remember Hodgson making a huge play to release the pressure by getting a 1 on 1 steal that should have been a penalty too

So im not having this crap calls
I thought the strip was ok and the bloke fell off before Hodgson stripped it out. Not that I think we got a bad run of it
Yeah I only saw the live shot of it so you might be right
Live it looked a penalty all day.
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Now that’s the dirty talk I’m looking for, Gangers :D
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We were ok, and as with the Knights game comfortably the better side throughout though it didn´t show on the scoreboard.

Biggest plus for me in this one was the starting middles - Papa, Lui and Sutton were outstanding for mine. As with the Titans game in round 1, we were on the road and really dealt it to some big name players from the opposition. Good to see a return to form for Whitehead and Rapana also, as well as some promising touches out of Cotric.

Needless to say there are still a lot of errors we need to get out of our game if we want to stay competitive throughout the year. That we have responded pretty consistently to date in 2019 by keeping our heads and defending these errors is really positive, though no doubt aided at least in part by some fairly insipid opponents.

Parra will be a big test - looking forward to the game!
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Is 4 a good amount of power?
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Not as good as 3, which the Eels have.
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greeneyed wrote: April 9, 2019, 12:01 pm Joey Leilua selected at centre in NRL Team of the Week. Round 4 results: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/04/07/rou ... -the-week/
If he continues to be one of the best centres in the comp he will be a lot easier for us to get rid of! Gh logic
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PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Haha it really is ludicrous, isn't it??
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The Rickman wrote: April 9, 2019, 12:09 pm
PigRickman wrote: April 8, 2019, 7:55 am the gymnastics GH'ers are willing to go through in order to never accept we got a favourable call is really impressive. :lol:
Haha it really is ludicrous, isn't it??
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greeneyed wrote: April 9, 2019, 10:13 am Not as good as 3, which the Eels have.
To think they where so great against a side with half their team out.

Oh, and they had Dugan, when he felt like it.
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Greedysmurf wrote: April 8, 2019, 6:36 am
gangrenous wrote: April 6, 2019, 8:34 pm Image

Tap taken 15m out

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First contact initiated by Papalii, Papalii looks to have retreated to roughly the 5m.

Arguably fine. At absolute worst it’s marginally a penalty to Cowboys. No way in hell it’s a sin bin.

So there you have it. We have another one of those bizarre cases where pigman comes out guns blazing to prove his fierce independence and as examples of *howlers* gives us one definitely correct call and one arguable call.
Watching live, I thought it was a sin bin as well. But on a re-watch, it is fine.

The penalty given was for a chicken wing on Matt Scott, now look at Gangrenous's screen cap #1. See Matt Scott, on the ground right next to the Ref. Morgan is at least a metre in front of him when tapping the ball. If the Ref chooses to allow Morgan to continue with the tap from there, fine, but the ten metres is still measured from Matt Scott's position. Hence Papa's first contact is about 10 metres back, no professional foul, no sin bin. If you want to argue the 'correct' call, the Ref should have called Morgan back and made him tap it on the mark.
I'm quite OK with that being a sin bin, as long as the 500 other times it happens during games over the year cop a sin bin.

But yeah, he should have been told to take the tap where the tackle was made. We've been pulled up on that a couple of times already this season.
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