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Something awry with NRL's salary cap compensation

The NRL is contemplating giving greater salary cap compensation for players stood down while facing serious criminal charges than they give for players injured while representing their country.

The NRL has offered the Raiders a cut of $350,000 in salary cap compensation for Jordan Rapana, injured while playing for New Zealand, He must miss the opening 12 weeks of the upcoming season and $350,000 is the maximum relief for a $1 million per season player. The Raiders might get $200,000 relief for Rapana. Meanwhile, there are reports the Dragons will get $600,000 in salary cap relief if Jack de Belin's stood down, the full amount of his salary.

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I can accept the relief, even if I don't agree with it, but it should be pro-rated and have the same position restrictions.

And they should fix the rep one so the off-season counts as at least some missed time.
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I agree with giving cap relief to players stood down for misbehaving but the article is spot on. To give 100% credit for a player breaking the law but only 35% for a player injured in rep footy is totally ****-about. Fairly typical of the NRL though.

Maybe we can exploit it. We can EDIT the sign Shaun Johnson with the cash freed up.
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Completely unsurprising sadly.
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It just seams like the NRL is shooting from the hip now with no real plan for the future. The future looks bleak


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LastRaider wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:06 pm It just seams like the NRL is shooting from the hip now with no real plan for the future. The future looks bleak


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Can someone send this article to Paul Kent, I would but wouldn’t have a clue how to do it 🤪, at least he will bring some light to it on NRL 360 with a million people watching
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I think Players should be stood down on pay while facing these kinds of serious charges.
Why in the world would anyone have a problem with the club being able to go and replace the player?
So the team has to run a player short in their roster, as what, some kind of punishment for having a player charged?
It makes total sense to make the player exempt from the cap during the period they are stood down on pay!
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Sorry lol I would but I’m a dumb ass
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Surely they amend the rep relief one at the same time? Still dont agree with the bad behaviour bonus.


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Beejay wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:27 pm I think Players should be stood down on pay while facing these kinds of serious charges.
Why in the world would anyone have a problem with the club being able to go and replace the player?
So the team has to run a player short in their roster, as what, some kind of punishment for having a player charged?
It makes total sense to make the player exempt from the cap during the period they are stood down on pay!
So what happens if DeBelin comes back mid year and the Dragons have an extra 600k player on their books already?
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Yet another example of how bad the nrl are at scenario planning.

Year after year people on this site raise potential issues about an NRL policy and then the Commission are suddenly shocked when X, Y and Z happens and the foreseeable, suddenly becomes reality.

The GH is the Nostradamus of rugby league. Or possibly the one eyed Raiders fan is king in the land of the blind.
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edwahu wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:48 pm
Beejay wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:27 pm I think Players should be stood down on pay while facing these kinds of serious charges.
Why in the world would anyone have a problem with the club being able to go and replace the player?
So the team has to run a player short in their roster, as what, some kind of punishment for having a player charged?
It makes total sense to make the player exempt from the cap during the period they are stood down on pay!
So what happens if DeBelin comes back mid year and the Dragons have an extra 600k player on their books already?
Would make it very complicated. Like most of this subject is.
However consider for a moment the only way that could happen; the Police drop the charges.
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Beejay wrote: February 26, 2019, 6:32 pm
edwahu wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:48 pm
Beejay wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:27 pm I think Players should be stood down on pay while facing these kinds of serious charges.
Why in the world would anyone have a problem with the club being able to go and replace the player?
So the team has to run a player short in their roster, as what, some kind of punishment for having a player charged?
It makes total sense to make the player exempt from the cap during the period they are stood down on pay!
So what happens if DeBelin comes back mid year and the Dragons have an extra 600k player on their books already?
Would make it very complicated. Like most of this subject is.
However consider for a moment the only way that could happen; the Police drop the charges.
or he is found not guilty
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So a club is better off with somebody accused of a serious crime rather than a injury to a player in an international game. Surely this is a joke.
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Northern Raider wrote: February 26, 2019, 4:44 pm I agree with giving cap relief to players stood down for misbehaving but the article is spot on. To give 100% credit for a player breaking the law but only 35% for a player injured in rep footy is totally ****-about. Fairly typical of the NRL though.

Maybe we can exploit it. We can EDIT the sign Shaun Johnson with the cash freed up.
yeah thats exactly my spot
I think cap relief for players being stood down for misbehaving is important, you cant expect the clubs or league to adequately handle these players unless you give the clubs the ability to compete without them.

But if you're going down the path of cap relief, and you're going to give it to players who are in strife, you have to at least make the concession that players injured in the course of their **** job, promoting the game, by playing international football, should also get it

Not like you're taking on a lot of risk of abuse, players injured in rep games are not the dudes teams will be fudging medicals on to obtain cap relief! They're their best players!
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edwahu wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:48 pm
Beejay wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:27 pm I think Players should be stood down on pay while facing these kinds of serious charges.
Why in the world would anyone have a problem with the club being able to go and replace the player?
So the team has to run a player short in their roster, as what, some kind of punishment for having a player charged?
It makes total sense to make the player exempt from the cap during the period they are stood down on pay!
So what happens if DeBelin comes back mid year and the Dragons have an extra 600k player on their books already?
The contract of the person replacing him would have to be written in a way that it is not guaranteed. Simple.
Then if DeBelin comes back, they have the flexibility to manage their cap...

That's the nature of the situation. The contracts signed have to reflect the volatility of the situation.
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magoo wrote:So a club is better off with somebody accused of a serious crime rather than a injury to a player in an international game. Surely this is a joke.
This is the long and short of it. Your club is better off if you do a rape than an ACL.
No compensation. No extra incentive to rehire bad eggs.

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Yeah. That's really ****.
It's a huge **** error in policy when it is a competitive advantage to have a player accused of rape, rather than do a major injury representing their country.
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Even funnier if it happened playing for us.

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zim wrote: February 26, 2019, 7:24 pm
magoo wrote:So a club is better off with somebody accused of a serious crime rather than a injury to a player in an international game. Surely this is a joke.
This is the long and short of it. Your club is better off if you do a rape than an ACL.
No compensation. No extra incentive to rehire bad eggs.
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LP Raider wrote:
zim wrote: February 26, 2019, 7:24 pm
magoo wrote:So a club is better off with somebody accused of a serious crime rather than a injury to a player in an international game. Surely this is a joke.
This is the long and short of it. Your club is better off if you do a rape than an ACL.
No compensation. No extra incentive to rehire bad eggs.
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zim wrote: February 26, 2019, 7:24 pm
magoo wrote:So a club is better off with somebody accused of a serious crime rather than a injury to a player in an international game. Surely this is a joke.
This is the long and short of it. Your club is better off if you do a rape than an ACL.
No compensation. No extra incentive to rehire bad eggs.


Quite right. Its greatly reducing the risk for clubs to sign players with questionable histories.
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Can we get some retrospective cap relief for all the **** Todd Carney pulled?

Might be able to squeeze about 800k
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The fact that we are even having this conversation speaks volume about the NRL.

How many sports codes are there where players being stood down after being charged is so common that the question of compenaation even arises as an issue???
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I think it's remarkable that Greenberg has managed to **** up things even more than David Gallop has done at the FFA.
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T_R wrote: February 26, 2019, 7:53 pm The fact that we are even having this conversation speaks volume about the NRL.

How many sports codes are there where players being stood down after being charged is so common that the question of compenaation even arises as an issue???
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So reading between the lines here the NRL has demanded that the Dragons stand down De Belin because they're getting heat, and somehow the Dragons have backed the NRL into a corner on the issue and have some kind of recourse and the NRL has come up with this doozy to appease them. Any other ideas?
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Apparently the Roosters led the charge for salary cap relief if players were stood down, and it was backed by others.
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greeneyed wrote: February 26, 2019, 8:28 pm Apparently the Roosters led the charge for salary cap relief if players were stood down, and it was backed by others.
Didn’t they just get rid of all there screw ups 🤔
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Goldcoast Raider wrote: February 26, 2019, 8:53 pm
greeneyed wrote: February 26, 2019, 8:28 pm Apparently the Roosters led the charge for salary cap relief if players were stood down, and it was backed by others.
Didn’t they just get rid of all there screw ups 🤔
If you're based in the eastern suburbs you're going to have plenty more.
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