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Re: Canberra Raiders reportedly settle three year deal for George Williams

Post by PigRickman » May 10, 2019, 12:03 pm

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Truthfully if Williams is coming I'd be looking to move along all three of Sezer, Williams and Hingano and look to sign a bargain basement backup half, and promote a rookie with promise to the top squad.
Yeah im not sure i disagree with that... I think the club is pretty high on that O'Hagan so he might be worth a shot at the rookie. And yeah go and find some Jeff Robson style back up.
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Re: Canberra Raiders reportedly settle three year deal for George Williams

Post by Beejay » May 10, 2019, 1:07 pm

I'm pretty sure you're describing Sam Williams to a tee.
Great clubman. Well liked by team. Can pinch hit the NRL for 1-3 weeks when needed but other than that not NRL standard. From the area so you dont' have to pay overs. No other club wants him as their starting half, no real competition to drive price.

Also O'Hagen has Austin level defence

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Re: Canberra Raiders reportedly settle three year deal for George Williams

Post by zim » May 10, 2019, 1:09 pm

O'Hagan is going to have to bulk up Sam Williams style either the next pre-season or the one after. If not I don't think he's seeing first grade in the NRL. Too many defensive issues.

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Post by The Rickman » May 10, 2019, 2:42 pm

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I'm pretty sure you're describing Sam Williams to a tee.
Great clubman. Well liked by team. Can pinch hit the NRL for 1-3 weeks when needed but other than that not NRL standard. From the area so you dont' have to pay overs. No other club wants him as their starting half, no real competition to drive price.

Also O'Hagen has Austin level defence
Haha that was exactly my thoughts when I read that post... you want to get rid of Williams, and then hire another Williams to cover for the new Williams??

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Post by -PJ- » May 10, 2019, 2:48 pm

Is our club still denying this signing ?

Is George going to rock up to preseason before Don breaks the news ?
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Post by yurithe1 » May 10, 2019, 4:58 pm

Beejay wrote:
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I'm pretty sure you're describing Sam Williams to a tee.
Great clubman. Well liked by team. Can pinch hit the NRL for 1-3 weeks when needed but other than that not NRL standard. From the area so you dont' have to pay overs. No other club wants him as their starting half, no real competition to drive price.

Also O'Hagen has Austin level defence
Well, no one wants Williams at the moment.
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Post by Finite » May 10, 2019, 10:38 pm

At this rate he will be making his first hit-up and the club will still be denying it.

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Post by greeneyed » May 15, 2019, 3:52 pm

England icon's huge rap for latest Canberra Raiders recruit George Williams

English legend Adrian Morley is confident that Canberra recruit George Williams will make it in the NRL - despite the lack of success of English backs in the NRL in recent years.

"I think it's a coincidence that backs haven't done as well as forwards in Oz - I think any of the England Test players could make it in the NRL,” Morley said.

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So now he's definitely being reported as a recruit??
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Post by julian87 » May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Re: Canberra Raiders reportedly settle three year deal for George Williams

Post by Matt » May 22, 2019, 12:08 pm

julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
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Post by Sid » May 22, 2019, 12:19 pm

I wouldn't be surprised. It'd make sense for Souffs to throw the bank at Rapana
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Post by julian87 » May 22, 2019, 1:42 pm

Matt wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:08 pm
julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
:thumbsup :clap: :cmon
:welcome: Williams
There’s absolutely no noise around this at all ftr, just a hunch/opinion.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Re: Canberra Raiders reportedly settle three year deal for George Williams

Post by Matt » May 22, 2019, 1:48 pm

julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 1:42 pm
Matt wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:08 pm
julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
:thumbsup :clap: :cmon
:welcome: Williams
There’s absolutely no noise around this at all ftr, just a hunch/opinion.
:thumbsup :clap: :cmon
:welcome: Williams
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Re: Canberra Raiders reportedly settle three year deal for George Williams

Post by Woodgers » May 22, 2019, 1:51 pm

julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
Knowing my luck this game will be the only one Sticky watches and he reneges on Williams and puts out an SOS to Austin for running past him 5 times on his way to a new record of 9 tries in a match!
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Post by Roger Kenworthy » May 22, 2019, 2:31 pm

julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
Great to hear he's a high character individual :shock:

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Post by Northern Raider » May 22, 2019, 3:06 pm

Matt wrote:
May 22, 2019, 1:48 pm
julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 1:42 pm
Matt wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:08 pm
julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
:thumbsup :clap: :cmon
:welcome: Williams
There’s absolutely no noise around this at all ftr, just a hunch/opinion.
:thumbsup :clap: :cmon
:welcome: Williams
:roflmao
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Post by Northern Raider » May 22, 2019, 3:28 pm

One thing to consider for this to happen early. Williams would need to be here before June 30. Assuming these players are initially on a 408 visa which covers professional sports people coming here to compete. These visas take a month or more to process which means the application will have to be made by now.
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Post by cat » May 22, 2019, 3:34 pm

He is not coming this year

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Is this guy good

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Post by magoo » May 22, 2019, 6:14 pm

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
May 22, 2019, 2:31 pm
julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
Great to hear he's a high character individual :shock:
I don't know anything about George but it does not bode well that he's not competing now he knows he's leaving

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Post by Azza » May 22, 2019, 9:59 pm

magoo wrote:
May 22, 2019, 6:14 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
May 22, 2019, 2:31 pm
julian87 wrote:
May 22, 2019, 12:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to now see this happen a lot earlier than expected. Williams is phoning it in for Wigan and they are absolutely horrendous. They’ll most likely get absolutely spanked this weekend by Warrington seeing them maybe drop down to 9th out of 12 teams. 3 or 4 tries went in through him on the weekend against Catalans. Seems like a few on the Wigan forum have had enough of him too.
Great to hear he's a high character individual :shock:
I don't know anything about George but it does not bode well that he's not competing now he knows he's leaving
Agreed - if true that is concerning.

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Post by EJ » May 22, 2019, 11:20 pm

Whatever. BJ came here under similar circumstances. I'll pass judgement on George based on how he performs for us.

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Post by PigRickman » May 23, 2019, 11:05 am

Yeah im not really concerned by that. It's clear he's been leaving for a while, i think he wanted to be out by now and Wigan dug their heels in... is it great that his response is to just phone it in (if that is indeed what he's been doing)? No. Probably not, but then i dont think he's coming here to phone it in, so im not sure what we can take away from that other than if it doesnt work out, it might be worth not standing on ceremony on it and having a player who might check out when unhappy.

Ive got no idea if he's good. I am not hopeful because halves coming from the ESL to NRL have a terrible recent history, but i've also been skeptical of every single english player we've brought in and everyone bar Jordan Turner has been a major upgrade. So im just going in with a blank slate and ill start to form opinions once i see him play in the NRL.

Our hopes to turn this team into a team that could get hot at the right time and jag a premiership sort of rests on that question about whether he's good or not. If he's just a mid range level NRL half, this team can parlay that, and it's strike elsewhere into a formidable contender... if not, it's more of this year i think, which is a good team who might find it very tough to beat a team like the roosters in the finals
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Azza wrote:
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Is this guy good
Yeah

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Post by julian87 » May 23, 2019, 11:21 am

The whole team is deplorable atm it’s not just him not doing his job ftr
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Post by kiwi raider » May 23, 2019, 11:53 am

julian87 wrote:
May 23, 2019, 11:21 am
The whole team is deplorable atm it’s not just him not doing his job ftr
Yea Wigan have some big problems at the moment, on and off the field by the sounds of it, i’m not sure anything should be read in to his form at the moment, a bit like Nathan Cleary , just because the panthers are going rubbish doesn’t mean Cleary’s not a good half.
Wigan have lost a heap of talent over the last year or so both playing wise (sutton, bateman, Tompkins) and coaching with Shaun Wane walking last year

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PigRickman wrote:
May 23, 2019, 11:05 am
Yeah im not really concerned by that. It's clear he's been leaving for a while, i think he wanted to be out by now and Wigan dug their heels in... is it great that his response is to just phone it in (if that is indeed what he's been doing)? No. Probably not, but then i dont think he's coming here to phone it in, so im not sure what we can take away from that other than if it doesnt work out, it might be worth not standing on ceremony on it and having a player who might check out when unhappy.

Ive got no idea if he's good. I am not hopeful because halves coming from the ESL to NRL have a terrible recent history, but i've also been skeptical of every single english player we've brought in and everyone bar Jordan Turner has been a major upgrade. So im just going in with a blank slate and ill start to form opinions once i see him play in the NRL.

Our hopes to turn this team into a team that could get hot at the right time and jag a premiership sort of rests on that question about whether he's good or not. If he's just a mid range level NRL half, this team can parlay that, and it's strike elsewhere into a formidable contender... if not, it's more of this year i think, which is a good team who might find it very tough to beat a team like the roosters in the finals
Same boat. I'm a clean slate man also so i'll just see how he goes. The optimist in me thinks he'll feed off the other Englishmen (Hodgson in particular) and he'll make a strong go of it. The pessimist in me dreads the Dennis Denuto of halves coaches wringing every ounce of playmaking out of him and we end up with a bulky McCrone.
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Post by Beejay » June 19, 2019, 8:31 pm

Wayne and I seem to be on the same page on ole George.

Wigan Warriors' George Williams is "as good as anybody that plays the game", says Wayne Bennett

Wayne Bennett has given George Williams - bound for Canberra in 2020 - the ultimate accolade by declaring he is "as good as anybody that plays the game" on his day.

"When he’s at his best George is as good as anybody that plays the game. He’s got a wonderful skill-set and understanding of the game."

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Post by Ronny P » June 20, 2019, 6:58 am

Only thing holding this back is Sezer not wanting to be part of the swap! Interesting 10 days ahead!


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Post by kiwi raider » June 20, 2019, 8:20 am

Ronny P wrote:
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Post by simo » June 20, 2019, 8:34 am

kiwi raider wrote:
June 20, 2019, 8:20 am
Ronny P wrote:
June 20, 2019, 6:58 am
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That's interesting! makes some sense of the sezer comment a couple of weeks ago of "there's a lot going on behind the scenes"
Gees id be happy for it to be sorted. Love the idea of getting the pieces in place as soon as possible
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Post by Northern Raider » June 20, 2019, 8:39 am

I am assuming "it" is a trade prior to June 30.
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Post by edwahu » June 20, 2019, 8:55 am

Where would Sezer be going? Because I can't see him agreeing to go to England. It would have to be a three way deal.

Avoiding the UK would perhaps explain his recent good form though.

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