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Having a transfer fee count on the cap still makes no sense to me.
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I am not sure how the transfer fee works on the cap. I assume it is averaged over the length of his contract. But no one in the NRL would pay $750,0000 simply as a transfer fee. You would need a 10 year contract for it to be feasible.
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Is it part of the cap? I didnt think it was.
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LimeGreenMachine wrote: February 26, 2019, 7:19 am Is it part of the cap? I didnt think it was.
No certainly wasn’t part of the cap when the warrriors signed Tomkins and I don’t think Batemans will be on our cap this year
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LimeGreenMachine wrote: February 26, 2019, 7:19 am Is it part of the cap? I didnt think it was.
It was when Segeyaro came back.
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This club needs to do some homework in its own backyard and look at our 20’s from last year and this year. We have some great halves coming through that will be snapped up by others if they dont move fast and lock them away. This bloke is not the answer just another plug in the whole of not nurturing and testing our own. Ohagan was the 20’s origin half for god sake. Westcott looks controlled and has a great kicking game but just needs time in nsw cup and i am sure there are others. Get them all under a McFadden 2 year boot camp and see what falls out the back end. My tip is Ohagan to play first grade this year


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He can’t play first grade this year because he’s not in the top squad.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I think the rule is changing so he could play after June 30. He would need to really show some major defensive improvements though.
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There is absolutely no possible way the transfer fee could count against the cap. Otherwise no club would ever pay one.

$750,000 across three years? Even if it's in thirds, that'd make someone like Williams cost nearly a million a season. Who is going to take a punt on a player at that cost?
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Timbo wrote: February 26, 2019, 9:11 am There is absolutely no possible way the transfer fee could count against the cap. Otherwise no club would ever pay one.

$750,000 across three years? Even if it's in thirds, that'd make someone like Williams cost nearly a million a season. Who is going to take a punt on a player at that cost?
Like I said, it was widely reported as counting for Segeyaro.

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So we've opted out and as far as I'm aware we didn't confirm interest..


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edwahu wrote: February 26, 2019, 9:00 am I think the rule is changing so he could play after June 30. He would need to really show some major defensive improvements though.
Agree. At the moment O'Hagan would be the worst defensive half we have.
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simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
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-PJ- wrote: February 26, 2019, 9:24 am So we've opted out and as far as I'm aware we didn't confirm interest..


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Indeed, one day we're interested next day we're not.

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yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Whitehead is quality. The timeframe i spoke of will be in 3 years time when whitehead or bateman may wish to return to england.
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Pigman wrote: February 25, 2019, 7:00 pm are we sure he can tackle.
Granted i dont watch much ESL, but when i do, i dont see a lot of tackling going on there.

Not a high priority there
No idea either Piggy but not a lot to beat eh?
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yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Jeez there is no way I would be looking to get rid of BJ I'm tipping he is in for a good year.
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simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 11:45 am
yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Whitehead is quality. The timeframe i spoke of will be in 3 years time when whitehead or bateman may wish to return to england.
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Keghead wrote:
yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Jeez there is no way I would be looking to get rid of BJ I'm tipping he is in for a good year.
BJ has limited life left in hin as an NRL player. He's a defensive hack, but granted strong with the ball. He's on the wane.

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Johno wrote: February 26, 2019, 12:23 pm
Pigman wrote: February 25, 2019, 7:00 pm are we sure he can tackle.
Granted i dont watch much ESL, but when i do, i dont see a lot of tackling going on there.

Not a high priority there
No idea either Piggy but not a lot to beat eh?
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dubby wrote: February 26, 2019, 6:11 pm
Keghead wrote:
yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Jeez there is no way I would be looking to get rid of BJ I'm tipping he is in for a good year.
BJ has limited life left in hin as an NRL player. He's a defensive hack, but granted strong with the ball. He's on the wane.

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BJ’s defence is always going to be a weak spot but he’s the reigning Daly M Centre of the Year who’s apparently in excellent shape. Reckon he’s got a couple of seasons before he’ll be “on the wane”.
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dubby wrote: February 26, 2019, 6:11 pm
Keghead wrote:
yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Jeez there is no way I would be looking to get rid of BJ I'm tipping he is in for a good year.
BJ has limited life left in hin as an NRL player. He's a defensive hack, but granted strong with the ball. He's on the wane.

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Its not all about Stats,Previous Results,and Personal Perceptions for mine its about maturing as a human and a footballer and I see that in BJ,he has himself much fitter this year and with that will come more focus.I also believe part of his defensive deficiencies may have moved to England.It will be interesting to watch both left and right centers defensive efforts this year.I for one will be cheering for him I personally don't understand why anyone wouldn't.

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Keghead wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:28 pm
dubby wrote: February 26, 2019, 6:11 pm
Keghead wrote:
yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
simo wrote: February 26, 2019, 5:56 am Sutton and murchie for him. The murch isnt getting a run here, hes a top quality backrower and when his two year contract is done we will take him back, more experienced and ready to take whiteheads/batemans spot
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Jeez there is no way I would be looking to get rid of BJ I'm tipping he is in for a good year.
BJ has limited life left in hin as an NRL player. He's a defensive hack, but granted strong with the ball. He's on the wane.

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Its not all about Stats,Previous Results,and Personal Perceptions for mine its about maturing as a human and a footballer and I see that in BJ,he has himself much fitter this year and with that will come more focus.I also believe part of his defensive deficiencies may have moved to England.It will be interesting to watch both left and right centers defensive efforts this year.I for one will be cheering for him I personally don't understand why anyone wouldn't.

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Lui_Bon wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:41 pm
Keghead wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:28 pm
dubby wrote: February 26, 2019, 6:11 pm
Keghead wrote:
yurithe1 wrote: February 26, 2019, 10:55 am
Cripes. Sutton has barely played a game and it's been in conditions he's not used to. No one is going to take Whitehead's spot. He is f'ing quality.

By Bateman, I hope you mean Luke rather than John. Why would anyone apart from a Pommie-hater swap an international centre/2nd rower rather than a bog ordinary, but hard-working lock.

I there's going be a swap, then let BJ go. He's a liability in defence and we have Bateman who can play in the centres to replace him, even though he's not as gifted as BJ. Just make sure we've signed Rapana first.
Jeez there is no way I would be looking to get rid of BJ I'm tipping he is in for a good year.
BJ has limited life left in hin as an NRL player. He's a defensive hack, but granted strong with the ball. He's on the wane.

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Its not all about Stats,Previous Results,and Personal Perceptions for mine its about maturing as a human and a footballer and I see that in BJ,he has himself much fitter this year and with that will come more focus.I also believe part of his defensive deficiencies may have moved to England.It will be interesting to watch both left and right centers defensive efforts this year.I for one will be cheering for him I personally don't understand why anyone wouldn't.

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I agree with this - every year, blokes that I thought were tools start to grow up... and blokes who were just a bit loose start to understand what it is they're involved in. You would know all the names, but I'll give you Dugan, Fergo and Mitchell Pearce.
Thanks Lui we must think along the same lines Image

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I was watching some of the Raiders games on Fox from last season over the summer. I don’t think I recognised how good BJ was and how many of our line breaks and tries came off his work on the previous tackle.

He’s almost our only X factor player.
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I agree. I've said it many times. Removing BJ removes the best part of the raiders I.e. the right edge bromance with rapa. While i accept there are some defensive liabilities these are more than compensated by what he brings in attack.

That said, I think this year will be a turning point for him. Hes had a free reign until now. Reports are that ball control will be a focus this year which really doesnt fit in with the way he likes to play. With Austin leaving, there'll be no excuses for poor defensive reads in the future. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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BJ is awesome, but his big problem is his decision making defensively and I'm not convinced he is coachable in that regard. Hopefully with better defenders around the number of tough decisions he has to make is reduced so it doesn't matter.
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BJ certainly improved his defence when Sezer moved to his side for the later part of 2017.

So hopefully issues were more due to Austin than BJ. But he still needs to improve.
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I didnt see the stream from Bega - was Sezer defending on the RH edge and Wighton on the left?
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Coastalraider wrote: March 1, 2019, 9:02 am I didnt see the stream from Bega - was Sezer defending on the RH edge and Wighton on the left?
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BJ wrote: March 1, 2019, 8:28 am BJ certainly improved his defence when Sezer moved to his side for the later part of 2017.

So hopefully issues were more due to Austin than BJ. But he still needs to improve.
His defense with Sezer next to him wasnt elite or top of the league, but it was sure as **** above average for NRL centres.
Conversely, when Austin moved next to Croker and outside Papa, we suddenly got an influx of Croker cant tackle and Papalii is lazy posts.

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Well BJ was the Dally M Centre of the year
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A ‘massive’ signing: Michael Ennis backs George Williams to solve Canberra’s play-making woes

Raiders coaching consultant Michael Ennis believes Wigan half George Williams would be a huge addition to the Green Machine.

“If they can land Williams, it would be massive,” said Ennis. “I’ve got a huge opinion on him, he’s one of the best players over there in England. To be able to come over and play with some of his mates seems like the logical fit, given Elliott, Josh and John are all there. He’s a really good defender and he’s an intelligent footballer.

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Being born in England, more poms the better.

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