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Rapana looking to extend time with Canberra Raiders

Post by LimeGreenMachine » February 10, 2019, 4:55 pm

Jordan Rapana looking to extend time with Canberra Raiders

It's another boost the Canberra Raiders in the lead-up to their bid to return to NRL finals, with star winger Jordan pledging he wants to stay in his home-away-from-home.

"I haven't spoken to my manager too much. Obviously I want to stay here - I just got engaged, the missus is from here and this has become my home-away-from-home so I absolutely love it down here - so ideally this is where I want to be," Rapana said.

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Post by greeneyed » February 10, 2019, 5:24 pm

Looks like he could be back sooner than expected based on those quotes.
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Post by dubby » February 10, 2019, 5:33 pm

I'm confident he'll stay

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » February 10, 2019, 5:43 pm

If they think he will be back sooner and Im sure that is what they are hoping then that would be the reason why we haven't spent the compensation money.

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Post by simo » February 10, 2019, 6:58 pm

That sounds about right and would be a very sensible move from the club.
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Post by AUSTEZER » February 10, 2019, 7:58 pm

does he move to Fullback when he returns

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Post by BadnMean » February 10, 2019, 8:23 pm

That’s gonna depend on a few things I think...

A) how good is CNK going...

B) how is the Jack in halves take 2 going...

C) is BJ his usual destructive self or does he look lost in attack/defence or even markedly better in defence somehow with Oldy there...

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Post by Chicka Chicka Chicka » February 10, 2019, 9:12 pm

Get it done Donny 🙂.

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Post by bonehead » February 11, 2019, 4:01 am

good news and probably explains why we haven't spent the dispensation

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Post by -PJ- » February 11, 2019, 5:22 am

I'd extend Rapanas contract if he only had one arm.

Very happy to hear he's happy.

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Post by PigRickman » February 11, 2019, 8:26 am

sacrilege i know... but depending on what the goals of the club actually are... if the goal is to win a premiership, i wouldnt rush to extend Rapana.
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Post by BadnMean » February 11, 2019, 9:27 am

Pigman wrote:
February 11, 2019, 8:26 am
sacrilege i know... but depending on what the goals of the club actually are... if the goal is to win a premiership, i wouldnt rush to extend Rapana.
I get it- he’ll be a 31/32 yr outside back by then... not someone you want on top dollar.

It depends if he ends up at fullback- where he could have a great 2 or 3 years given his attitude and relative lack of footy...

Or come back to the pack as a good winger with a bung shoulder...

I’d hold off a little while 🤷‍♀️

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Post by gergreg » February 11, 2019, 11:15 am

I'm going to sit on the fence with this one. He has consistently been our best contributor on a week to week basis for a few years now. The gap between his good and great games are slim. I use good and great because it's tough to remember his last bad game. Edit: to clarify - he has had a bad game or two because things just haven't gone his way, not through lack of effort.
He is exactly the type of player that deserves a nice upgrade, over douche bags like Dugan for example who have used a good patch of form to leverage the club.

But like the 2 posters before me I don't know that it's great cap management. Unless you find some other way to pay the man. He should be more of a cult figure in Canberra. He is exactly the type of player that the community would warm to. Get the bloke some nice TPAs and an under the table handshake agreement for a role of his playing days are over.




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Post by edwahu » February 11, 2019, 11:17 am

If the club has found some way to sign good players we could probably hold off. At the moment though playing hard ball probably ends with us signing a reserve grader to replace him.

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Post by T_R » February 11, 2019, 11:26 am

gergreg wrote:
February 11, 2019, 11:15 am
I'm going to sit on the fence with this one. He has consistently been our best contributor on a week to week basis for a few years now. The gap between his good and great games are slim. I use good and great because it's tough to remember his last bad game. Edit: to clarify - he has had a bad game or two because things just haven't gone his way, not through lack of effort.
He is exactly the type of player that deserves a nice upgrade, over douche bags like Dugan for example who have used a good patch of form to leverage the club.

But like the 2 posters before me I don't know that it's great cap management. Unless you find some other way to pay the man. He should be more of a cult figure in Canberra. He is exactly the type of player that the community would warm to. Get the bloke some nice TPAs and an under the table handshake agreement for a role of his playing days are over.
Yep, this is a tough one. I agree that it's cap suicide to overpay on the outside backs.

But....well, the points have to come from somewhere and if we lose him, there's no way we'll replace him for even close to the same level of player.
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Post by Rickmando » February 11, 2019, 11:58 am

Have gone on record a few times in here before... he is the best fullback in the club, by a street. You only have to look at the way he’s played when filling in there, and the way he pops up in the middle of the ground even when playing on the wing.

Not surprising given that’s where he played all his junior football.

He’s a wholehearted guy who wants his hands on the ball, is rarely out of position, and is good under the high ball.

Give him the #1 jumper, and “pay...that man... his money”

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Post by PigRickman » February 11, 2019, 12:04 pm

It's REALLY tough, because Rapana is both an elite player, arguably the best in his position, and a very good club man who provides the fan base with a really good, fun loving bloke you can cheer on and constantly delivers highlights... he's the sort of guy you want to have and want to pay... but yeah the cap implications of paying top dollar for a winger in his 30's... yeah i dont know.

We need to find a way to upgrade the positions that make the difference in this league. And we need cap space to do that. A lot of it.
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Post by kiwi raider » February 11, 2019, 12:07 pm

Yea I don't know if he'd definitely be a top class fullback but I want to see it, good support player, committed defender, have seen him throw some nice cut out balls and can even kick 40/20's...

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Post by kiwi raider » February 11, 2019, 12:12 pm

Pigman wrote:
February 11, 2019, 12:04 pm
It's REALLY tough, because Rapana is both an elite player, arguably the best in his position, and a very good club man who provides the fan base with a really good, fun loving bloke you can cheer on and constantly delivers highlights... he's the sort of guy you want to have and want to pay... but yeah the cap implications of paying top dollar for a winger in his 30's... yeah i dont know.

We need to find a way to upgrade the positions that make the difference in this league. And we need cap space to do that. A lot of it.
IMO we'd be better off looking at a centre to free up cash given all our options in that position(Croker, BJ, Cotric, Wighton, J Bateman)
second row and wing probably next spots you look to

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Post by Rickmando » February 11, 2019, 12:16 pm

Cap management is a huge bug-bear, a lot of us bemoan it on here because we’ve done it the wrong way compared to other clubs, no doubt.

But I believe Rapana is the best rugby league player in our backline. His talents are wasted on the wing. We’ve persisted with it because of the Leipana thing, but it’s now time to put him in a spine position where he will get more touches of the ball. That will offset any bump in salary we give him (he’s already on overs for a winger).

From a cap point of view, if we needed space for a war chest I would punt every other member of the backline before Raps (especially our likely overpaid centres - the least important position in modern football).

But it’s about more than 1 or 2 transactions of dumping salary ... we would have to be ruthless in moving on a fair few of our squad, commit to paying big money for the next truly elite half available, and then build around him with cheaper pieces that have upside. The club has to show a bit of longer term planning, rather than just sign whoever we can get year to year.

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Post by Rickmando » February 11, 2019, 12:18 pm

Not to mention- resigning or upgrading players (and head coaches, grrr) well before is absolutely necessary. It’s this fear based decision making that puts these players on overs in the first place!!!!

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Post by Beejay » February 11, 2019, 12:24 pm

Elite wingers do make a difference in the NRL. Secondly, Rapana has been our top 3 best player for a couple of years. Just don't overpay him. Certainly don't let him go. Just because he could get more money on the open market with a desperate club doesn't mean he is going to do that. Like the article says, he wants to be here and there's more to it than football, his fiance is from Canberra and has a pretty good job/career in Canberra.

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Post by Green eyed Mick » February 11, 2019, 12:27 pm

mamando wrote:
February 11, 2019, 11:58 am
Have gone on record a few times in here before... he is the best fullback in the club, by a street. You only have to look at the way he’s played when filling in there, and the way he pops up in the middle of the ground even when playing on the wing.

Not surprising given that’s where he played all his junior football.

He’s a wholehearted guy who wants his hands on the ball, is rarely out of position, and is good under the high ball.

Give him the #1 jumper, and “pay...that man... his money”
With Wighton pretty much confirming a shift to 5/8th, Rapa is definitely our best option at fullback.

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Post by Rick » February 11, 2019, 12:28 pm

Upgrade him and give him the #1


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Post by simo » February 11, 2019, 12:33 pm

Dont upgrade him, but give him the 1 jersey.
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Post by edwahu » February 11, 2019, 12:38 pm

I think he is probably not on crazy money compared to some others. I'd guess 400k range?

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Post by PigRickman » February 11, 2019, 1:02 pm

kiwi raider wrote:
February 11, 2019, 12:12 pm
Pigman wrote:
February 11, 2019, 12:04 pm
It's REALLY tough, because Rapana is both an elite player, arguably the best in his position, and a very good club man who provides the fan base with a really good, fun loving bloke you can cheer on and constantly delivers highlights... he's the sort of guy you want to have and want to pay... but yeah the cap implications of paying top dollar for a winger in his 30's... yeah i dont know.

We need to find a way to upgrade the positions that make the difference in this league. And we need cap space to do that. A lot of it.
IMO we'd be better off looking at a centre to free up cash given all our options in that position(Croker, BJ, Cotric, Wighton, J Bateman)
second row and wing probably next spots you look to
I'd have to know what our squad is on to really dig deep into where the most effective and efficient cuts should come. But yeah those are the three spots that i would guess at too.
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Post by PigRickman » February 11, 2019, 1:03 pm

Beejay wrote:
February 11, 2019, 12:24 pm
Elite wingers do make a difference in the NRL. Secondly, Rapana has been our top 3 best player for a couple of years. Just don't overpay him. Certainly don't let him go. Just because he could get more money on the open market with a desperate club doesn't mean he is going to do that. Like the article says, he wants to be here and there's more to it than football, his fiance is from Canberra and has a pretty good job/career in Canberra.
Agreed
The trouble is we're probably already "overpaying" him and he's not taking a pay cut to stay here. So where do you go from there?

I also agree with others that Rapana when healthy should be given a really good crack at fullback if we haven't found a solution whilst he's away. I was advocating both he and Cotric being given time at fullback last year when Wighton was out, because we all know this Wighton to the halves move was on the cards.

Really speaks to what a poor job Stuart did, not planning forward with this. We should be coming into 2019 knowing EXACTLY how we feel about Rapana and Cotric at fullback
The List - K.Love, Keno, Zippy's tennis angels, LA Lakers, Noah, Boozer, Lucy's horse tips, Colts, Lucy, Kevin Proctor, Dr Zaius, TR, Tinfoil hatted Gangers & Woody, anyone in Raiders HQ who can point to QBN on a map....

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Post by simo » February 11, 2019, 1:41 pm

Pigman wrote:
February 11, 2019, 1:03 pm
Beejay wrote:
February 11, 2019, 12:24 pm
Elite wingers do make a difference in the NRL. Secondly, Rapana has been our top 3 best player for a couple of years. Just don't overpay him. Certainly don't let him go. Just because he could get more money on the open market with a desperate club doesn't mean he is going to do that. Like the article says, he wants to be here and there's more to it than football, his fiance is from Canberra and has a pretty good job/career in Canberra.
Agreed
The trouble is we're probably already "overpaying" him and he's not taking a pay cut to stay here. So where do you go from there?

I also agree with others that Rapana when healthy should be given a really good crack at fullback if we haven't found a solution whilst he's away. I was advocating both he and Cotric being given time at fullback last year when Wighton was out, because we all know this Wighton to the halves move was on the cards.

Really speaks to what a poor job Stuart did, not planning forward with this. We should be coming into 2019 knowing EXACTLY how we feel about Rapana and Cotric at fullback
Ill be fair to stick here and say i do know how i feel about cotric at fullback and thats that he’ll be an excellent Center
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