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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by BJ » February 27, 2019, 1:20 pm

SeeBee101 wrote:As i've said in previous posts, I think our lack of size in the middle will ensure teams make even more metres. Worrying signs....
Yeah me too. I think we need at least 1 monster. Just not the two we previously had.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by edwahu » February 27, 2019, 1:29 pm

I think the big boppers hurt in that regard, unless the opposition is dumb enough to run straight at them all the time.

Although again, the Roosters numbers are around the same for meters conceded per set, so I reckon the whole thing is overblown as a problem.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by BadnMean » February 27, 2019, 2:01 pm

It is frustrating to watch but it is how the modern game looks a lot of the time- we do it to plenty of teams once Rapana and BJ get us on a roll and as said, it happens to most teams most weeks.

I think the stats put us middle of the pack on metres conceded so yes I'd love to improve it but it's not a Raiders only issue.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Raiders_Pat » February 27, 2019, 2:14 pm

Field position is important and I can't agree with any argument that says it isn't. So you put in work pushing the opposition back towards their try line in your attacking set and the half finds touch at the 10m. What's the point of doing this if you allow the opposition to march you back to your 20m line in the following set? I see this happen to the Raiders all the time - we put in a great attacking set, push them back to their try line, and somehow the opposition then march us back up the other end of the field and force a repeat set... we put ourselves under pressure time and time again through laziness and then wonder why we can't close out tight games. And then people here suggest that field position and containing your opposition doesn't matter... remarkable.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by edwahu » February 27, 2019, 3:03 pm

Raiders_Pat wrote:
February 27, 2019, 2:14 pm
Field position is important and I can't agree with any argument that says it isn't. So you put in work pushing the opposition back towards their try line in your attacking set and the half finds touch at the 10m. What's the point of doing this if you allow the opposition to march you back to your 20m line in the following set? I see this happen to the Raiders all the time - we put in a great attacking set, push them back to their try line, and somehow the opposition then march us back up the other end of the field and force a repeat set... we put ourselves under pressure time and time again through laziness and then wonder why we can't close out tight games. And then people here suggest that field position and containing your opposition doesn't matter... remarkable.
Except that's not what is being argued or has been said at all.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Brew » February 27, 2019, 3:41 pm

PigRickman wrote:
Brew wrote:
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I’m Ricky’s biggest fan and even I can see that Jack at Five Eight is a train wreck. We will be halfway through the season and Sticky will be saying it’s a new halves pairing etc and they need time and before you know it we are doing the mathematics at Round 18 to see if we can scrape 8th spot.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Woodgers » February 27, 2019, 8:28 pm

I don't know if Wighton at 6 is going to work out, I have been saying since about the middle of last season why I think it makes sense but essentially it could backfire. I've given my reasons why I think it may result in more wins.

What absolutely makes me facepalm is commentary that we tried it 5 years ago so it couldn't possible work. I mean, surely it is possible for even the simplest mind to consider that a player that played and dominated a lot of junior footy in that position might also struggle in that position at first grade level in a very ordinary side. Then said player moved to fullback where he worked on his ballplaying and creating numbers and overlaps so has improved that aspect, but also stood 30 metres behind the defensive line observing how good playmakers exploit holes and weaknesses to give him a tough day directing traffic back there. And he's bigger and stronger since his first stint. Is he a better 5/8 than fullback or centre? I'm not sure. But I find it absolutely absurd that anyone would rule out him not being successful at 5/8 based on what they saw 5 years ago. That's thoughtless to me, players develop and Jack isn't even 30 so he's on the up not the down.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by gergreg » February 28, 2019, 5:17 am

Woodgers wrote:I don't know if Wighton at 6 is going to work out, I have been saying since about the middle of last season why I think it makes sense but essentially it could backfire. I've given my reasons why I think it may result in more wins.

What absolutely makes me facepalm is commentary that we tried it 5 years ago so it couldn't possible work. I mean, surely it is possible for even the simplest mind to consider that a player that played and dominated a lot of junior footy in that position might also struggle in that position at first grade level in a very ordinary side. Then said player moved to fullback where he worked on his ballplaying and creating numbers and overlaps so has improved that aspect, but also stood 30 metres behind the defensive line observing how good playmakers exploit holes and weaknesses to give him a tough day directing traffic back there. And he's bigger and stronger since his first stint. Is he a better 5/8 than fullback or centre? I'm not sure. But I find it absolutely absurd that anyone would rule out him not being successful at 5/8 based on what they saw 5 years ago. That's thoughtless to me, players develop and Jack isn't even 30 so he's on the up not the down.
Agreed. The bigger concern is Stuart's inability to successfully develop a half over the past 15 years. But apparently he'll get it right this year?

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Woodgers » February 28, 2019, 8:34 am

That will be his biggest challenge this season, blocking out the noise coming from near the $3 plastic Bunnings chairs in front of the dugout.
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Post by luke » February 28, 2019, 8:39 am

Woodgers wrote:
February 27, 2019, 8:28 pm
I don't know if Wighton at 6 is going to work out, I have been saying since about the middle of last season why I think it makes sense but essentially it could backfire. I've given my reasons why I think it may result in more wins.

What absolutely makes me facepalm is commentary that we tried it 5 years ago so it couldn't possible work. I mean, surely it is possible for even the simplest mind to consider that a player that played and dominated a lot of junior footy in that position might also struggle in that position at first grade level in a very ordinary side. Then said player moved to fullback where he worked on his ballplaying and creating numbers and overlaps so has improved that aspect, but also stood 30 metres behind the defensive line observing how good playmakers exploit holes and weaknesses to give him a tough day directing traffic back there. And he's bigger and stronger since his first stint. Is he a better 5/8 than fullback or centre? I'm not sure. But I find it absolutely absurd that anyone would rule out him not being successful at 5/8 based on what they saw 5 years ago. That's thoughtless to me, players develop and Jack isn't even 30 so he's on the up not the down.
top quality posting imo, Woodgers

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by LimeGreenMachine » February 28, 2019, 8:52 am

Wait for the attacks if he doesn't perform like Thurston from the 1st minute.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Green eyed Mick » February 28, 2019, 9:02 am

The biggest concern with Jack's move to 5/8th is Sezer having to step up as a number 7 and CNK having to play fullback.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by PigRickman » February 28, 2019, 9:09 am

I think that's a concern but i have the upmost confidence in our coach on the front.
This move was mooted about mid last year, this has been the plan for a while now, so im sure Stuart will have his halfback ready to go and his fullback on the same page.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Green Chapel » February 28, 2019, 9:30 am

Wighton is ready and due for the switch imo.

Done all he can at fullback ....now needs to step up , and i think he will !!

Im just not sure about Sezer ?? The big pressure is on him to control the game for Raiders !

For some reason i think Williams and wighton mite gel a bit better in the halfs.

Anyhow , the first couple games will tell show us !!

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Post by Woodgers » February 28, 2019, 9:31 am

AND they will be psychologically ready to go as well.....or at least they would've been if they were part of the Club 82 leadership group.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by LP Raider » February 28, 2019, 11:07 am

luke wrote:
February 28, 2019, 8:39 am
Woodgers wrote:
February 27, 2019, 8:28 pm
I don't know if Wighton at 6 is going to work out, I have been saying since about the middle of last season why I think it makes sense but essentially it could backfire. I've given my reasons why I think it may result in more wins.

What absolutely makes me facepalm is commentary that we tried it 5 years ago so it couldn't possible work. I mean, surely it is possible for even the simplest mind to consider that a player that played and dominated a lot of junior footy in that position might also struggle in that position at first grade level in a very ordinary side. Then said player moved to fullback where he worked on his ballplaying and creating numbers and overlaps so has improved that aspect, but also stood 30 metres behind the defensive line observing how good playmakers exploit holes and weaknesses to give him a tough day directing traffic back there. And he's bigger and stronger since his first stint. Is he a better 5/8 than fullback or centre? I'm not sure. But I find it absolutely absurd that anyone would rule out him not being successful at 5/8 based on what they saw 5 years ago. That's thoughtless to me, players develop and Jack isn't even 30 so he's on the up not the down.
top quality posting imo, Woodgers
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by T_R » February 28, 2019, 11:31 am

I said from last year, too - move him there and at least plug the defensive holes. Combinations in attack will take time, but I think he'll get there.

But in a team that keeps losing by 4, gee that try-a-week through the halves was hurting us.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by The Rickman » February 28, 2019, 11:33 am

gergreg wrote:
February 28, 2019, 5:17 am
Woodgers wrote:I don't know if Wighton at 6 is going to work out, I have been saying since about the middle of last season why I think it makes sense but essentially it could backfire. I've given my reasons why I think it may result in more wins.

What absolutely makes me facepalm is commentary that we tried it 5 years ago so it couldn't possible work. I mean, surely it is possible for even the simplest mind to consider that a player that played and dominated a lot of junior footy in that position might also struggle in that position at first grade level in a very ordinary side. Then said player moved to fullback where he worked on his ballplaying and creating numbers and overlaps so has improved that aspect, but also stood 30 metres behind the defensive line observing how good playmakers exploit holes and weaknesses to give him a tough day directing traffic back there. And he's bigger and stronger since his first stint. Is he a better 5/8 than fullback or centre? I'm not sure. But I find it absolutely absurd that anyone would rule out him not being successful at 5/8 based on what they saw 5 years ago. That's thoughtless to me, players develop and Jack isn't even 30 so he's on the up not the down.
Agreed. The bigger concern is Stuart's inability to successfully develop a half over the past 15 years. But apparently he'll get it right this year?

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by PigRickman » February 28, 2019, 11:49 am

T_R wrote:
February 28, 2019, 11:31 am
I said from last year, too - move him there and at least plug the defensive holes. Combinations in attack will take time, but I think he'll get there.

But in a team that keeps losing by 4, gee that try-a-week through the halves was hurting us.
Austin and Williams KILLED us last year, no ifs and buts about it
You can talk about the middles, you can talk about missing Hodgson, you can talk about Sezer... but for all the faults and issues with the team, we had what? 4-5 games that we were in position to win and should have won, and lost because Blake Austin and to a lesser extent, Sam Williams cant defend their line
We lost AT LEAST 8 competition points, if not 10-12. That's totally different season we're talking about here.

Rick saw it first hand and like any good coach he's made the right adjustment.
He's really nailed this
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by The Rickman » February 28, 2019, 11:55 am

PigRickman wrote:
February 28, 2019, 11:49 am
T_R wrote:
February 28, 2019, 11:31 am
I said from last year, too - move him there and at least plug the defensive holes. Combinations in attack will take time, but I think he'll get there.

But in a team that keeps losing by 4, gee that try-a-week through the halves was hurting us.
Austin and Williams KILLED us last year, no ifs and buts about it
You can talk about the middles, you can talk about missing Hodgson, you can talk about Sezer... but for all the faults and issues with the team, we had what? 4-5 games that we were in position to win and should have won, and lost because Blake Austin and to a lesser extent, Sam Williams cant defend their line
We lost AT LEAST 8 competition points, if not 10-12. That's totally different season we're talking about here.

Rick saw it first hand and like any good coach he's made the right adjustment.
He's really nailed this
Yep, Stuart has absolutely killed it with everything he's done over the off-season, and it's showed in both trials. Big season ahead!
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

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The Rickman wrote:
PigRickman wrote:
February 28, 2019, 11:49 am
T_R wrote:
February 28, 2019, 11:31 am
I said from last year, too - move him there and at least plug the defensive holes. Combinations in attack will take time, but I think he'll get there.

But in a team that keeps losing by 4, gee that try-a-week through the halves was hurting us.
Austin and Williams KILLED us last year, no ifs and buts about it
You can talk about the middles, you can talk about missing Hodgson, you can talk about Sezer... but for all the faults and issues with the team, we had what? 4-5 games that we were in position to win and should have won, and lost because Blake Austin and to a lesser extent, Sam Williams cant defend their line
We lost AT LEAST 8 competition points, if not 10-12. That's totally different season we're talking about here.

Rick saw it first hand and like any good coach he's made the right adjustment.
He's really nailed this
Yep, Stuart has absolutely killed it with everything he's done over the off-season, and it's showed in both trials. Big season ahead!
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by LimeGreenMachine » March 1, 2019, 11:42 am

VIDEO: Hodgson says five-eighth right for Wighton

Canberra Raiders hooker Josh Hodgson backs Jack Wighton's move to five-eighth.

Video : https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/01/hod ... r-wighton/

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » March 4, 2019, 8:29 am

Daley's advice to Wighton on five-eighth switch

Raiders legend Laurie Daley says he likes the overall look of the Canberra side for 2019, but had some words of wisdom for Jack Wighton in his move to five eighth.

"Patience. Patience with the ball and not be too eager to rush his plays or get things done," Daley said of the biggest thing Wighton will need to learn. "He has to learn how to take some breaths and watch the flow of the game and get the ball when he needs it and he sees an opportunity. Not just getting the ball for the sake of getting it."

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Ilanraiders » March 4, 2019, 8:55 am

Patience patience patience :clap: I really hope this move to 6 for Wighton will be good!!! Hope it’s not another development year.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

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Ilanraiders wrote:
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Patience patience patience :clap: I really hope this move to 6 for Wighton will be good!!! Hope it’s not another development year.
For Wighton, it'll most definitely be a development year - I think just in the trials we've seen that.

But I still think he's our best option in the #6
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by simo » March 4, 2019, 9:29 am

T_R wrote:
March 4, 2019, 9:07 am
Ilanraiders wrote:
March 4, 2019, 8:55 am
Patience patience patience :clap: I really hope this move to 6 for Wighton will be good!!! Hope it’s not another development year.
For Wighton, it'll most definitely be a development year - I think just in the trials we've seen that.

But I still think he's our best option in the #6
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Northern Raider » March 4, 2019, 10:03 am

Normally you would say its too late in Wighton's career to be 'developing' as he's been around for ages. Thing is he's only just turned 26 and still has plenty of years ahead. Same age Lockyer switched to 5/8 I believe.

Question is how long do you give him? Lockyer was an instant success, which came as no real surprise.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by T_R » March 4, 2019, 10:10 am

Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:03 am
Normally you would say its too late in Wighton's career to be 'developing' as he's been around for ages. Thing is he's only just turned 26 and still has plenty of years ahead. Same age Lockyer switched to 5/8 I believe.

Question is how long do you give him? Lockyer was an instant success, which came as no real surprise.
Fullback to 5/8 is probably less of a stretch these days than it would have once been
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Northern Raider » March 4, 2019, 10:44 am

T_R wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:10 am
Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:03 am
Normally you would say its too late in Wighton's career to be 'developing' as he's been around for ages. Thing is he's only just turned 26 and still has plenty of years ahead. Same age Lockyer switched to 5/8 I believe.

Question is how long do you give him? Lockyer was an instant success, which came as no real surprise.
Fullback to 5/8 is probably less of a stretch these days than it would have once been
In some respects yes. Biggest differences are you play primarily left or right, get your hands on the ball earlier and more tactical kicking is required. You are the ball player starting the moves rather than being the link man. With the Lockyer transition they wasn't much question about his game management ability. It more his ability to handle the increase defensive workload. With Jack it would be the other way round.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by hrundi89 » March 4, 2019, 11:45 am

Sezer's a confidence player. Handing him the 7 and telling him it's his and being patient with it will give him some.
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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Coastalraider » March 4, 2019, 11:55 am

hrundi89 wrote:
March 4, 2019, 11:45 am
Sezer's a confidence player. Handing him the 7 and telling him it's his and being patient with it will give him some.
And after a couple of rounds when he realises the mediocrity of the last 3 years was not an anomaly, that confidence will be taken away again.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Matt » March 4, 2019, 12:15 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:44 am
T_R wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:10 am
Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:03 am
Normally you would say its too late in Wighton's career to be 'developing' as he's been around for ages. Thing is he's only just turned 26 and still has plenty of years ahead. Same age Lockyer switched to 5/8 I believe.

Question is how long do you give him? Lockyer was an instant success, which came as no real surprise.
Fullback to 5/8 is probably less of a stretch these days than it would have once been
In some respects yes. Biggest differences are you play primarily left or right, get your hands on the ball earlier and more tactical kicking is required. You are the ball player starting the moves rather than being the link man. With the Lockyer transition they wasn't much question about his game management ability. It more his ability to handle the increase defensive workload. With Jack it would be the other way round.
In the modern times of split halves, FBs play what would be considered the 2nd receiver or traditional 5/8 role of yesteryear. We have seen what Jack can do with ball in hand, esp down the left edge from FB. The 2nd half of the trial vs the Dogs was proof that its still there. We have also seen him tackle from FB. I think the transition will be better this time around. However, only time will tell.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Coastalraider » March 4, 2019, 12:27 pm

Matt wrote:
March 4, 2019, 12:15 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:44 am
T_R wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:10 am
Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:03 am
Normally you would say its too late in Wighton's career to be 'developing' as he's been around for ages. Thing is he's only just turned 26 and still has plenty of years ahead. Same age Lockyer switched to 5/8 I believe.

Question is how long do you give him? Lockyer was an instant success, which came as no real surprise.
Fullback to 5/8 is probably less of a stretch these days than it would have once been
In some respects yes. Biggest differences are you play primarily left or right, get your hands on the ball earlier and more tactical kicking is required. You are the ball player starting the moves rather than being the link man. With the Lockyer transition they wasn't much question about his game management ability. It more his ability to handle the increase defensive workload. With Jack it would be the other way round.
In the modern times of split halves, FBs play what would be considered the 2nd receiver or traditional 5/8 role of yesteryear. We have seen what Jack can do with ball in hand, esp down the left edge from FB. The 2nd half of the trial vs the Dogs was proof that its still there. We have also seen him tackle from FB. I think the transition will be better this time around. However, only time will tell.
I don't think skill set is a concern, I think decision making under pressure is.

Its not a lack of skill that gets Jack to pass a cutout to the 3rd row of the grandstand, and kick a ball dead from 20 mts out, drop a sitter bomb - its general lack of 'calmness'. While he looked to have these issues ironed out at fullback, it took a couple of years for him to grow into the role. My concern is that it will take him a similar time to adjust to his new role of setting up plays and kicks, rather than being a link within.

I think the wraps on Jack from people like Sticky are because they can see what a naturally gifted freak he is on the training paddock - his lack of rep honours is due to the fact he takes a while to implement these talents in the real world.

Hope beyond hope I am proven wrong this year, but Id say by the time he warms to the role, the season will be passed us.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by Roger Kenworthy » March 4, 2019, 12:39 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 10:03 am
Normally you would say its too late in Wighton's career to be 'developing' as he's been around for ages. Thing is he's only just turned 26 and still has plenty of years ahead. Same age Lockyer switched to 5/8 I believe.

Question is how long do you give him? Lockyer was an instant success, which came as no real surprise.
Lockyer was recognised as a top 3 player in the game at the stage of his move, with a heap of rep experience already. Wighton would be somewhere around the top 70 or 80 I'd imagine.

Wighton has really only had 2017 and 2018 when he wasn't in development mode, and he had a shocking first half of 2017. He's up there with Jarred Mullen as one of the worst returns on investment in recent years. Hopefully this is the making of him.

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Re: Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by T_R » March 4, 2019, 12:54 pm

Coastalraider wrote:
March 4, 2019, 12:27 pm
Its not a lack of skill that gets Jack to pass a cutout to the 3rd row of the grandstand, and kick a ball dead from 20 mts out, drop a sitter bomb - its general lack of 'calmness'. While he looked to have these issues ironed out at fullback, it took a couple of years for him to grow into the role. My concern is that it will take him a similar time to adjust to his new role of setting up plays and kicks, rather than being a link within.
This I completely agree with. There's a panic reaction to Wighton that other teams will be licking their lips over.
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