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Jack Wighton confirms switch to five eighth

Post by greeneyed » January 12, 2019, 6:49 pm

Jack Wighton set for "shock" switch to five eighth in Canberra Raiders shake-up

Jack Wighton is expected to play alongside Aidan Sezer in a new-look halves pairing that will be out to lead the Raiders to just their second finals appearance in eight years.

Wighton has spent the pre-season training at No. 6 and is set to make the switch from fullback for Canberra’s season opener against the Titans on the Gold Coast.

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Jack Wighton set for shock switch in Raiders shake-up

Post by Sid » January 12, 2019, 7:09 pm

‘Shock’ switch? Not much of a shock when there was an article about this in November

Edit - echoed.. ugh **** it all
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Post by Roger Kenworthy » January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm

I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.

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Post by edwahu » January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.

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Post by nemesis » January 12, 2019, 7:20 pm

sezar is actually a descent kicker, i really hope he has a break out year, he was a gun at the titans
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Post by Raiders666 » January 12, 2019, 7:24 pm

Come on down Dylan Edwards

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » January 12, 2019, 7:35 pm

This is a good move , we have to change something. But and it is a big but , we need someone to cover Fullback , Cotric may be a year or so off if at all , Raps is half a year out so other than Wighton we don't have a fullback. We have to recruit or we are weakening a position too much to cover another.

Other than that I am a big fan for Jack to play 5/8

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Post by Rick » January 12, 2019, 7:36 pm

Any quotes from the Raiders? Or any talk of who will play fullback?


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Post by Raiders_Pat » January 12, 2019, 7:38 pm

Sezer (like many of our other players) seems to suffer heavily when his confidence is down... He has had games where his kicking has been fantastic and others where his kicking has let us down. I'm anticipating the quality of his kicking game to be more consistent this year with Austin no longer in the team. There were many games over the past couple years where Sezer seemed to fade out as he got frustrated... hopefully this will occur less frequently if he's partnered with a half who will compliment his game more than clash with/cramp it. All defensive issues aside, the team's chemistry took a tumble after our run in 2016 and our new-look spine with Hodgson as captain and Wighton in the halves should (hopefully) patch that up a bit.

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Post by CJ42 » January 12, 2019, 8:05 pm

you'd have to imagine this means we want a new fullback?
we aren't moving cotric when rapana is out for half the season.
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CJ42 wrote:you'd have to imagine this means we want a new fullback?
we aren't moving cotric when rapana is out for half the season.
Exactly. I just want to hear something from the Raiders that adds fuel to the Edwards rumours


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Post by Raiders666 » January 12, 2019, 8:11 pm

I didn't see anything last year from Cotric that gave me hope that fullback was the postion from him.. Not to say he can't get there eventually though

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Post by Brew » January 12, 2019, 8:37 pm

I’m pretty sure the Daily Telegraph has been reading this forum and made up the story from there.


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Post by Ruben Daley » January 12, 2019, 8:55 pm

The club doesn’t see Cotric as ready for fullback yet so either they’ve decided Abbey is ready for the role full-time (which would surprise me) or they’re confident Edwards is coming.

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Ruben Daley wrote:
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The club doesn’t see Cotric as ready for fullback yet so either they’ve decided Abbey is ready for the role full-time (which would surprise me) or they’re confident Edwards is coming.
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Post by Roger Kenworthy » January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm

edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.

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Brew wrote:
January 12, 2019, 8:37 pm
I’m pretty sure the Daily Telegraph has been reading this forum and made up the story from there.


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Post by RedRaider » January 12, 2019, 11:29 pm

edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Sam's defensive stats were better than Sezer's in 2018. Not by much but still better.

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Post by greeneyed » January 12, 2019, 11:34 pm

RedRaider wrote:
January 12, 2019, 11:29 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Sam's defensive stats were better than Sezer's in 2018. Not by much but still better.
They weren’t really.
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Post by edwahu » January 13, 2019, 5:24 am

RedRaider wrote:
January 12, 2019, 11:29 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Sam's defensive stats were better than Sezer's in 2018. Not by much but still better.
No they weren't.

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Post by -PJ- » January 13, 2019, 5:43 am

This is happening because we have little option.

It also tells me we are about to get a fullback..any day now !
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Post by Raiders_Pat » January 13, 2019, 7:32 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.
Is it exceptionally weaker than the combo of Austin/Sezer though? Austin had a big boot but his kicking wasn't exactly pinpoint as far as accuracy is concerned. I've seen Wighton put some decent kicks in over the years, I don't think we're gonna lose too much there tbh... I do agree that our kicking overall will be a weak point compared to most other teams but it's not like it's been a strength of ours in recent times.

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Post by Sid » January 13, 2019, 7:40 am

Rick wrote:
CJ42 wrote:you'd have to imagine this means we want a new fullback?
we aren't moving cotric when rapana is out for half the season.
Exactly. I just want to hear something from the Raiders that adds fuel to the Edwards rumours


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In the November article there were quotes from Croker, Thurston and Tongue about the possible position switch. More recently Oldfield played it down a bit, probably hosing down rumours of a new fullback until a deal is done
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Post by edwahu » January 13, 2019, 8:01 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.
I think there isn't much of a sample size for Jack's kicking. He is naturally talented so he could pick it up pretty quickly.

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Post by Sid » January 13, 2019, 8:02 am

Rick wrote:
CJ42 wrote:you'd have to imagine this means we want a new fullback?
we aren't moving cotric when rapana is out for half the season.
Exactly. I just want to hear something from the Raiders that adds fuel to the Edwards rumours


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In the November article there were quotes from Croker, Thurston and Tongue about the possible position switch. More recently Oldfield played it down a bit, probably hosing down rumours of a new fullback until a deal is done
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Post by Seiffert82 » January 13, 2019, 8:10 am

The kicking issue is a massive concern. More of it from Hodgo next year I suspect.

In saying that, Sezer can be bloody good if he does it consistently.

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Post by Roger Kenworthy » January 13, 2019, 8:16 am

Raiders_Pat wrote:
January 13, 2019, 7:32 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.
Is it exceptionally weaker than the combo of Austin/Sezer though? Austin had a big boot but his kicking wasn't exactly pinpoint as far as accuracy is concerned. I've seen Wighton put some decent kicks in over the years, I don't think we're gonna lose too much there tbh... I do agree that our kicking overall will be a weak point compared to most other teams but it's not like it's been a strength of ours in recent times.
Williams was in most of last year so I think that masked it a bit. Sezer has gone backwards in that department so hopefully he can get back to what he was in 2016 and at the Titans. His obsession with kicking through the defensive line is one issue that could be solved easily.

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Post by Roger Kenworthy » January 13, 2019, 8:17 am

edwahu wrote:
January 13, 2019, 8:01 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.
I think there isn't much of a sample size for Jack's kicking. He is naturally talented so he could pick it up pretty quickly.
In his previous stint at 6 he had an absolute led foot when putting in attacking kicks. I'm sure they'll be working on that weakness.

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Post by Raiders_Pat » January 13, 2019, 8:59 am

Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 13, 2019, 8:16 am
Raiders_Pat wrote:
January 13, 2019, 7:32 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:11 pm
I'd much prefer Williams and Wighton. Sezer doesn't have the kicking skill for this to function well IMO.
He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.
Is it exceptionally weaker than the combo of Austin/Sezer though? Austin had a big boot but his kicking wasn't exactly pinpoint as far as accuracy is concerned. I've seen Wighton put some decent kicks in over the years, I don't think we're gonna lose too much there tbh... I do agree that our kicking overall will be a weak point compared to most other teams but it's not like it's been a strength of ours in recent times.
Williams was in most of last year so I think that masked it a bit. Sezer has gone backwards in that department so hopefully he can get back to what he was in 2016 and at the Titans. His obsession with kicking through the defensive line is one issue that could be solved easily.
Williams is strictly a back-up half. You bring him in when you have injuries in the halves. No other club would bring him in as a starting half and he shouldn't even be considered in the conversation.

Moving on from that, I was referring to solely the combo of Austin/Sezer, not games when Williams was playing alongside Austin or Sezer. I don't see a Wighton/Sezer combo as being particularly weaker in the kicking field compared to an Austin/Sezer combo. I do however see a multitude of other problems in a Williams/Sezer or Williams/Wighton combo as compared to Sezer/Wighton, issues much worse than any setbacks we will have due to kicking.

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » January 13, 2019, 9:00 am



Clip on Wighton , last try around 3min shows a deft kick for a try.

The rest of the tries show why he should be fullback , Im so torn now .

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Post by Ruben Daley » January 13, 2019, 9:02 am

Raiders_Pat wrote:
January 12, 2019, 9:06 pm
Ruben Daley wrote:
January 12, 2019, 8:55 pm
The club doesn’t see Cotric as ready for fullback yet so either they’ve decided Abbey is ready for the role full-time (which would surprise me) or they’re confident Edwards is coming.
I'm not a religious man but I'm praying for the latter
My info was the club wouldn’t move Jack unless they got Edwards or someone similar. Not sure if that’s changed but I hope not.

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Post by Roger Kenworthy » January 13, 2019, 9:07 am

Raiders_Pat wrote:
January 13, 2019, 8:59 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 13, 2019, 8:16 am
Raiders_Pat wrote:
January 13, 2019, 7:32 am
Roger Kenworthy wrote:
January 12, 2019, 10:21 pm
edwahu wrote:
January 12, 2019, 7:16 pm


He can tackle though.
Will be happy to be proven wrong but the kicking looks exceptionally weak with this combo. If Hodgson does more that would help although his kicking game has been a bit down the past couple seasons also.
Is it exceptionally weaker than the combo of Austin/Sezer though? Austin had a big boot but his kicking wasn't exactly pinpoint as far as accuracy is concerned. I've seen Wighton put some decent kicks in over the years, I don't think we're gonna lose too much there tbh... I do agree that our kicking overall will be a weak point compared to most other teams but it's not like it's been a strength of ours in recent times.
Williams was in most of last year so I think that masked it a bit. Sezer has gone backwards in that department so hopefully he can get back to what he was in 2016 and at the Titans. His obsession with kicking through the defensive line is one issue that could be solved easily.
Williams is strictly a back-up half. You bring him in when you have injuries in the halves. No other club would bring him in as a starting half and he shouldn't even be considered in the conversation.

Moving on from that, I was referring to solely the combo of Austin/Sezer, not games when Williams was playing alongside Austin or Sezer. I don't see a Wighton/Sezer combo as being particularly weaker in the kicking field compared to an Austin/Sezer combo. I do however see a multitude of other problems in a Williams/Sezer or Williams/Wighton combo as compared to Sezer/Wighton, issues much worse than any setbacks we will have due to kicking.
I think any combo of the 3 we can come up with would easily qualify for the worst 3 halves combos in the competition, as we have been the past two years.
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