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BadnMean wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 9:33 am

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:45 am

BadnMean wrote:Imagine paying Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey 600k each...

Reminds me of Matt Elliot throwing huge dollars at spuds like Tyran Smith...

Ugh, Tyran Smith was one of the handful of players in my time I didn’t like seeing in green:

- Tyran Smith
- Troy Thompson (I realise the forum loves him because he wrote “funny” stories)
- Glenn Buttriss
- Blake Austin (circa 2018)
- Corey Horsburgh

Can’t think of too many others in my thirty odd years. I’d include Matt Orford, but by the time I realised I didn’t like him, he was gone. Outside of those guys you really won’t see me bagging our players, except for maybe individual mistakes or poor games.

Smith was only getting my goat because he was the definition of a journeyman plodder but we paid him marquee $$$ to come here. Managers smelled blood in the water. I did like that game when coach fired him up once and he ran around like a madman smashing everyone late or not didn't matter for 20 minutes then got put on report. Easts game?

Thompson and Buttriss were... again... just plodders. I'm not sure how Buttriss carried on so long. I guess there was always someone else worse in the team. He'd convinced some of my mates he was a "solid" NRL hooker and it was all our halves fault. Then Hodgo blew the scales off their eyes.

Did Hors snub you at a meet n greet? He's quite sloppy in discipline but he at least shows glimpses of a powerful forward- good tackling technique and makes yards after contact often. Just that he's ill disciplined on field and a bit of a partier off it.

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 11:38 am

BadnMean wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 9:33 am

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:45 am

BadnMean wrote:Imagine paying Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey 600k each...

Reminds me of Matt Elliot throwing huge dollars at spuds like Tyran Smith...

Ugh, Tyran Smith was one of the handful of players in my time I didn’t like seeing in green:

- Tyran Smith
- Troy Thompson (I realise the forum loves him because he wrote “funny” stories)
- Glenn Buttriss
- Blake Austin (circa 2018)
- Corey Horsburgh

Can’t think of too many others in my thirty odd years. I’d include Matt Orford, but by the time I realised I didn’t like him, he was gone. Outside of those guys you really won’t see me bagging our players, except for maybe individual mistakes or poor games.

Smith was only getting my goat because he was the definition of a journeyman plodder but we paid him marquee $$$ to come here. Managers smelled blood in the water. I did like that game when coach fired him up once and he ran around like a madman smashing everyone late or not didn't matter for 20 minutes then got put on report. Easts game?

Thompson and Buttriss were... again... just plodders. I'm not sure how Buttriss carried on so long. I guess there was always someone else worse in the team. He'd convinced some of my mates he was a "solid" NRL hooker and it was all our halves fault. Then Hodgo blew the scales off their eyes.

Did Hors snub you at a meet n greet? He's quite sloppy in discipline but he at least shows glimpses of a powerful forward- good tackling technique and makes yards after contact often. Just that he's ill disciplined on field and a bit of a partier off it.

Just to go a little further on that... I never had a problem with Glenn Buttriss as a person, seemed like a good bloke, and it was never anything personal. HOWEVER, dummy half became the most important position on the field a good twenty years ago, and while you're running around with a dummy half who was best described by his supporters as "average on his day", then you're going to have a bad time. And we did.

PigRickman wrote:

Neeeegz wrote: ↑July 16, 2019, 8:15 pm And the fact that tpj just extended at the Broncos doesn't make this a moot point ? Arrow is maybe available, but with our squad, who loses their position ? And if it's a Luke Bateman upgrade, we need to have salary cap space...

Yep, it absolutely does.
We're just shooting the **** now as RL fans now, and i always enjoy the discussions that come from TPJ v Arrow type scenarios. They're totally different styles of player and i think how you value each tells you a lot of about what you value in a RL player.

i think our major recruitment has been and gone with Georgey boy. So this thread will be pretty dead, save for this sort of thing. Which will upset the "stick the topic" crowd, but honestly, **** them.

Neeeegz wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 1:45 pm

PigRickman wrote:

Neeeegz wrote: ↑July 16, 2019, 8:15 pm And the fact that tpj just extended at the Broncos doesn't make this a moot point ? Arrow is maybe available, but with our squad, who loses their position ? And if it's a Luke Bateman upgrade, we need to have salary cap space...

Yep, it absolutely does.
We're just shooting the **** now as RL fans now, and i always enjoy the discussions that come from TPJ v Arrow type scenarios. They're totally different styles of player and i think how you value each tells you a lot of about what you value in a RL player.

i think our major recruitment has been and gone with Georgey boy. So this thread will be pretty dead, save for this sort of thing. Which will upset the "stick the topic" crowd, but honestly, **** them.

Haha, Roger that.

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julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 1:48 pm A club with a roster as strong as ours has no chance of signing Arrow. He’ll command big dollars and we don’t have that as we’re banking on what we’ve got to win a premiership in ‘19 or ‘20.

Even not re-signing Rapana wouldn’t give us a sniff imo. There are too many clubs out there who’ll pay stupid money for in vogue players atm. The best opportunities for Canberra to snare a decent player for ‘20 will be those ousted due to cap restraints imo. Otherwise it will be fringe players and reserve graders filling gaps.

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 2:03 pm

julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 1:48 pm A club with a roster as strong as ours has no chance of signing Arrow. He’ll command big dollars and we don’t have that as we’re banking on what we’ve got to win a premiership in ‘19 or ‘20.

Even not re-signing Rapana wouldn’t give us a sniff imo. There are too many clubs out there who’ll pay stupid money for in vogue players atm. The best opportunities for Canberra to snare a decent player for ‘20 will be those ousted due to cap restraints imo. Otherwise it will be fringe players and reserve graders filling gaps.

Agreed. Successful clubs need to keep turning their roster over as success drives the price of the players up. Despite popular belief, this is a process both the Roosters and the Storm employ very well.

Rather than just having a brief "premiership window" where you have everyone firing at once and then the window closes as you lose half your squad, you continually keep the window open by rotating young and fresh players in and players that start to get a bit expensive out, while trying to maintain the core, discipline and structures that got you success in the first place.

julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 2:59 pm I wouldn’t sign Arrow on 800k a season. I’m happy with Horsburgh, Tapine and Sutton juggling that sort of role cap wise.

I think the side would be better improved maintaining a similar pack and hopefully licking out on a cheaper power forward who plays less minutes but provides greater impact whilst retaining those I mentioned short term.

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 3:05 pm

julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 2:59 pm I wouldn’t sign Arrow on 800k a season. I’m happy with Horsburgh, Tapine and Sutton juggling that sort of role cap wise.

I think the side would be better improved maintaining a similar pack and hopefully licking out on a cheaper power forward who plays less minutes but provides greater impact whilst retaining those I mentioned short term.

You're doing WHAT to a cheaper power forward??

Novel approach, but it might just work!!

Northern Raider wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 3:50 pm

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 3:05 pm

julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 2:59 pm I wouldn’t sign Arrow on 800k a season. I’m happy with Horsburgh, Tapine and Sutton juggling that sort of role cap wise.

I think the side would be better improved maintaining a similar pack and hopefully licking out on a cheaper power forward who plays less minutes but provides greater impact whilst retaining those I mentioned short term.

You're doing WHAT to a cheaper power forward??

Novel approach, but it might just work!!

Julian thinking outside the box

Raiders_Pat wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 5:57 pm Getting Boyd back here for $250-300k wouldn't be a bad move at all if he was cool with it... could provide good impact off the bench for us provided we restrict him to about 30 mins.

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:45 am

BadnMean wrote:Imagine paying Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey 600k each...

Reminds me of Matt Elliot throwing huge dollars at spuds like Tyran Smith...

Ugh, Tyran Smith was one of the handful of players in my time I didn’t like seeing in green:

- Tyran Smith
- Troy Thompson (I realise the forum loves him because he wrote “funny” stories)
- Glenn Buttriss
- Blake Austin (circa 2018)
- Corey Horsburgh

Can’t think of too many others in my thirty odd years. I’d include Matt Orford, but by the time I realised I didn’t like him, he was gone. Outside of those guys you really won’t see me bagging our players, except for maybe individual mistakes or poor games.

The Rickman wrote:

julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 2:59 pm I wouldn’t sign Arrow on 800k a season. I’m happy with Horsburgh, Tapine and Sutton juggling that sort of role cap wise.

I think the side would be better improved maintaining a similar pack and hopefully licking out on a cheaper power forward who plays less minutes but provides greater impact whilst retaining those I mentioned short term.

You're doing WHAT to a cheaper power forward??

Novel approach, but it might just work!!

sprintman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:59 pm Josh Reynolds told no longer required

RedRaider wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:36 pm

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:45 am

BadnMean wrote:Imagine paying Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey 600k each...

Reminds me of Matt Elliot throwing huge dollars at spuds like Tyran Smith...

Ugh, Tyran Smith was one of the handful of players in my time I didn’t like seeing in green:

- Tyran Smith
- Troy Thompson (I realise the forum loves him because he wrote “funny” stories)
- Glenn Buttriss
- Blake Austin (circa 2018)
- Corey Horsburgh

Can’t think of too many others in my thirty odd years. I’d include Matt Orford, but by the time I realised I didn’t like him, he was gone. Outside of those guys you really won’t see me bagging our players, except for maybe individual mistakes or poor games.

You pick out a rookie in his first year of FG? He is so bad he has just been extended by the Raiders. LOL You can't win the bagging game all the time I guess.

What about seasoned player who turned up his toes after a pay rise like Bronson Harrison.

bonehead wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:31 pm wow, just missing a Bateman

sprintman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:59 pm Josh Reynolds told no longer required

kiwi raider wrote:

RedRaider wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:36 pm

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:45 am

BadnMean wrote:Imagine paying Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey 600k each...

Reminds me of Matt Elliot throwing huge dollars at spuds like Tyran Smith...

Ugh, Tyran Smith was one of the handful of players in my time I didn’t like seeing in green:

- Tyran Smith
- Troy Thompson (I realise the forum loves him because he wrote “funny” stories)
- Glenn Buttriss
- Blake Austin (circa 2018)
- Corey Horsburgh

Can’t think of too many others in my thirty odd years. I’d include Matt Orford, but by the time I realised I didn’t like him, he was gone. Outside of those guys you really won’t see me bagging our players, except for maybe individual mistakes or poor games.

You pick out a rookie in his first year of FG? He is so bad he has just been extended by the Raiders. LOL You can't win the bagging game all the time I guess.

What about seasoned player who turned up his toes after a pay rise like Bronson Harrison.

Yea terribly harsh to put a young 20 year old with less than a dozen games on your "players I didn't like seeing in green" list, hes got some rough edges but get off his back, he could be a completely different player in 12-18months

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 9:48 pm

kiwi raider wrote:

RedRaider wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:36 pm

The Rickman wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 7:45 am

BadnMean wrote:Imagine paying Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey 600k each...

Reminds me of Matt Elliot throwing huge dollars at spuds like Tyran Smith...

Ugh, Tyran Smith was one of the handful of players in my time I didn’t like seeing in green:

- Tyran Smith
- Troy Thompson (I realise the forum loves him because he wrote “funny” stories)
- Glenn Buttriss
- Blake Austin (circa 2018)
- Corey Horsburgh

Can’t think of too many others in my thirty odd years. I’d include Matt Orford, but by the time I realised I didn’t like him, he was gone. Outside of those guys you really won’t see me bagging our players, except for maybe individual mistakes or poor games.

You pick out a rookie in his first year of FG? He is so bad he has just been extended by the Raiders. LOL You can't win the bagging game all the time I guess.

What about seasoned player who turned up his toes after a pay rise like Bronson Harrison.

Yea terribly harsh to put a young 20 year old with less than a dozen games on your "players I didn't like seeing in green" list, hes got some rough edges but get off his back, he could be a completely different player in 12-18months

Yeah, and if that happens I’ll freely admit I was wrong! I’m not deathriding the guy, I want him to succeed, just right now every time he gets near the ball I get concerned

And I’m absolutely 100% looking forward to being proven wrong on this one. There’s nothing malicious here

BadnMean wrote:Is this a shouting down?

julian87 wrote: ↑July 17, 2019, 2:59 pm I wouldn’t sign Arrow on 800k a season. I’m happy with Horsburgh, Tapine and Sutton juggling that sort of role cap wise.

I think the side would be better improved maintaining a similar pack and hopefully licking out on a cheaper power forward who plays less minutes but provides greater impact whilst retaining those I mentioned short term.

bonehead wrote:I could have josh Reynolds in my squad, gun #14 great fighting never say die player and our genius medical team would get him right too

gergreg wrote: ↑July 18, 2019, 8:56 pm

bonehead wrote:I could have josh Reynolds in my squad, gun #14 great fighting never say die player and our genius medical team would get him right too

I don't think our medical team can perform miracles. He's busted.

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bonehead wrote: ↑July 18, 2019, 8:51 pm I could have josh Reynolds in my squad, gun #14 great fighting never say die player and our genius medical team would get him right too