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Ronny P wrote:I think him and Timoko have another year in 20’s.


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Saw an article that mentions Ese’ese is potentially available... he’d look very good either starting next to Paps or leading the bench prop rotation.

Rickmando wrote:Saw an article that mentions Ese’ese is potentially available... he’d look very good either starting next to Paps or leading the bench prop rotation.

He’s be a great pickup, wasn’t he one of the first Knights buys? He’s be on a few $$$$

I think Lui is in the same class as what you could expect from Ese'ese now. Unless it's a elite talent I wouldn't be chasing a prop.

With the team we have it's absurd to think we have any money to buy anyone of note...

I'm Bate Man wrote: ↑June 14, 2019, 6:04 pm

Rickmando wrote:Saw an article that mentions Ese’ese is potentially available... he’d look very good either starting next to Paps or leading the bench prop rotation.

He’s be a great pickup, wasn’t he one of the first Knights buys? He’s be on a few $$$$

He’s been on the outer/fringe first grader this year. They’ve signed a lot of talent since he arrived - I don’t think he’d be commanding big bucks. But he could give you some big games in the course of a season.

edwahu wrote: ↑June 14, 2019, 6:10 pm I think Lui is in the same class as what you could expect from Ese'ese now. Unless it's a elite talent I wouldn't be chasing a prop.

For mine, he’s a couple of cuts above Lui, Sia and our young guns (although Horse is on a great trajectory). The old guys are journeymen, the kids unproven.

I think we have room for another above average prop in the rotation. Someone like him would make us a lot stronger in one move - all dependent on price point of course. Have to get him at value.

Lui is performing the job required of him and the young guys are progressing to the point where they'll probably usurp him this time next year. AFAIC, that's everything going exactly to plan and i wouldnt feel the need to bring in an Ese'ese type

If we're bringing in a forward, i dont think we should be looking to sacrifice a little depth like Lui and Sia (if his age finally catches up with him and he moves to an off the roster role in 2020) to obtain an elite talent to take our pack up and over the top rather than more good depth.

PigRickman wrote: ↑June 14, 2019, 8:01 pm Lui is performing the job required of him and the young guys are progressing to the point where they'll probably usurp him this time next year. AFAIC, that's everything going exactly to plan and i wouldnt feel the need to bring in an Ese'ese type

If we're bringing in a forward, i dont think we should be looking to sacrifice a little depth like Lui and Sia (if his age finally catches up with him and he moves to an off the roster role in 2020) to obtain an elite talent to take our pack up and over the top rather than more good depth.

Yes. I think Sutton will settle at "good solid prop" right where he is. He's not showing the signs of class Whitehead and Hodgo were in their first years.

Papa is high quality. Tapine as a middle has class but hasn't played a single excellent season overall yet. Good, potential but not excellent. Some of this is due to injury/suspension.

Hors looks likely but we still need to see. Guler and Young look ok but haven't shown as much as Hors. They could easily come up and do the Lui/Sia job at least in the next year or so.

Sia getting old and Lui is solid and effective at best, slightly pedestrian at worst.

We don't need a journeyman or solid FG'er. Every reason to think Hors, Guler, Young or Murchie can do that job next year, if not Sutton or Lui already.

I think Lui has been doing his job quite well this season and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Soliola drop out of the team before him

PigRickman wrote: ↑June 14, 2019, 8:01 pm Lui is performing the job required of him and the young guys are progressing to the point where they'll probably usurp him this time next year. AFAIC, that's everything going exactly to plan and i wouldnt feel the need to bring in an Ese'ese type

If we're bringing in a forward, i dont think we should be looking to sacrifice a little depth like Lui and Sia (if his age finally catches up with him and he moves to an off the roster role in 2020) to obtain an elite talent to take our pack up and over the top rather than more good depth.

If we had to move Soliola off the roster due to age, which could actually be a possibility... I wouldn't mind picking up somebody like Russell Packer provided it was at the right price. He's an older head and could be effective with his fitness right.

I think people are writing off Sia Soliola a bit too soon. That mistake has been made before. He was supposedly too old three years ago.

Yep, and if it wasn't for him no way we are 5-1 to start the year. He has had a slow month but he will come good.

His form this year is definitely streets ahead of Packer.

greeneyed wrote: ↑June 15, 2019, 11:11 am I think people are writing off Sia Soliola a bit too soon. That mistake has been made before. He was supposedly too old three years ago.

agreed
i think Sia had a tough game but it was only a few weeks ago i was saying how important he was for our team. I dont think he's done yet but the post earlier from Julian really put into perspective his career, in year 15, he's very much a year by year proposition as to whether he wants to put his body through another year.

I dont think he's played a year too long and i dont think he's done yet, but after this long of rock hard footy, at 32, it wouldnt shock anyone if he retired end of this year.

greeneyed wrote:I think people are writing off Sia Soliola a bit too soon. That mistake has been made before. He was supposedly too old three years ago.

I've got a hunch Sia is carrying some injuries

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I don't think Russell Packer is the type of forward we are now looking for. We are after high mobility players who can play long minutes at FG level when required. It has worked for us this year and if interchanges are again reduced then we would be looking to buy/develop more of this type of forward.

He sure isn’t.

No ****s thanks

I've got it on good authority that Russell Packer is still an absolute **** of a human being, regardless of what fluff pieces have come out about him.

Definitely no thanks.

afgtnk wrote: ↑June 15, 2019, 6:27 pm I've got it on good authority that Russell Packer is still an absolute **** of a human being, regardless of what fluff pieces have come out about him.

Definitely no thanks.

I have no authority on this and i absolutely and completely buy this. His redemption arc never passed my (admittedly unreliable) sniff test. Every time i see him play or hear him speak, he just fits the bill of a total and utter ****.

greeneyed wrote: ↑June 15, 2019, 11:11 am I think people are writing off Sia Soliola a bit too soon. That mistake has been made before. He was supposedly too old three years ago.

I don't really know, because I'm thousands of miles away, but I reckon Sia's worth whatever he's paid in leadership alone.

PigRickman wrote: ↑June 15, 2019, 7:16 pm

afgtnk wrote: ↑June 15, 2019, 6:27 pm I've got it on good authority that Russell Packer is still an absolute **** of a human being, regardless of what fluff pieces have come out about him.

Definitely no thanks.

I have no authority on this and i absolutely and completely buy this. His redemption arc never passed my (admittedly unreliable) sniff test. Every time i see him play or hear him speak, he just fits the bill of a total and utter ****.

Andrew Fifita category for mine. Absolute flog.

Sia was playing edge and all over 3 years ago and passed his sell by date on that well and truly. He had a renaissance when allowed to focus on the middle for a year and pre-season/shape solely for that role. He couldn't quite cut it on the edges anymore laterally.

He had a year as an effective mobile prop but hasn't been consistent in his play this year.

No one faults his courage but his job is to make yards on the hardest carries, lead line speed, smash blokes, make hi cover tackles and not make errors. Just lately his yard are down and the odd error. He's not the sole leader of our linespeed anymore, I'd say Whitehead, Bateman, Hors do that.

I'll give Sia a look after the break and see if he is rejuvenated. If so, great. Everybody wins.

If not... I don't have him in my top pack. At his best- he might hold out Young, Murchie and Hors or Lui for the rest of the year but a leaders real job is to develop other leaders and he'd be proud to have done that. We aren't a team that will fall in a heap if he's not on the park anymore. Papa has grown. Whitehead is immense, Bateman is here.

Club should employ him as a youth mentor/polynesian player/at risk player mentor- i believe he has obtained qualifications along these kind of social work lines.

Flanagan to Chooks. Could have been useful

sprintman wrote:Flanagan to Chooks. Could have been useful

It’s on a development promise that he can learn from Cronk before taking over his position. So I don’t think other clubs were really in with a shot.

Mind you, Roosters will dump Flanagan the second a better half comes on the market who considers the Roosters a suitable destination.

sprintman wrote:Flanagan to Chooks. Could have been useful

Yeah he could have introduced Stick to some new vitamins to help the players with their rehab.
Pretty handy too with budget management, but I’d keep him away from excel and disable his email access

BJ wrote: ↑June 17, 2019, 4:35 pm

sprintman wrote:Flanagan to Chooks. Could have been useful

It’s on a development promise that he can learn from Cronk before taking over his position. So I don’t think other clubs were really in with a shot.

Mind you, Roosters will dump Flanagan the second a better half comes on the market who considers the Roosters a suitable destination.

Like Lam Jr for Flanno Jr

BJ wrote: Mind you, Roosters will dump Flanagan the second a better half comes on the market who considers the Roosters a suitable destination.

As should any club with any player if they’re serious about winning the competition.

Matt wrote:

BJ wrote: ↑June 17, 2019, 4:35 pm

sprintman wrote:Flanagan to Chooks. Could have been useful

It’s on a development promise that he can learn from Cronk before taking over his position. So I don’t think other clubs were really in with a shot.

Mind you, Roosters will dump Flanagan the second a better half comes on the market who considers the Roosters a suitable destination.

Like Lam Jr for Flanno Jr

Lam Jr. More to that story then form. Wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up with his Dad at Wigan.

Flanno, no chance he would come here. Sticky and Shane Flanagan don’t really like each other.


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wow this lad can play, check him out, I have a strong feeling Jake will be a NRL player, but who will sign him , my guess is Rabbitohs, just a long shot

DOGMAN wrote: ↑June 18, 2019, 4:54 am Jake Connor Hull FC

wow this lad can play, check him out, I have a strong feeling Jake will be a NRL player, but who will sign him , my guess is Rabbitohs, just a long shot

Ooh! Ooh! Can I do it this time?

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EDIT: Fairly decent highlights package, though.

I added in the highlights packages for Dogman.

when you look at 2nd gen halves Jack Johns has fallen off the radar after being reasonably rated. I wasn't all that impressed with what I saw last year but he's got the best possible guidance and one guy I expect to bob up again.

T_R wrote:

DOGMAN wrote: ↑June 18, 2019, 4:54 am Jake Connor Hull FC

wow this lad can play, check him out, I have a strong feeling Jake will be a NRL player, but who will sign him , my guess is Rabbitohs, just a long shot

Ooh! Ooh! Can I do it this time?

" Welcome to the forum, Mrs Connor! "

EDIT: Fairly decent highlights package, though.

Hahahahahaha I love this place

Not Raiders related but it could easily have flow on effects. The Dogs are supposed to have offered Mitchell a 10 year, 11.5m dollar deal.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 64f2e8260e

That story was put up 50 minutes ago according to Google... but it isn't there now.