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greeneyed wrote: January 8, 2019, 8:48 pm It is pretty clear from Craig's tweet he, at least, is talking about Edwards. I suspect the issue is whether the Panthers want him at No. 1 rather than Dallin Watene Zelezniak and whether they need to free up salary cap space... and whether they've come to grips with that yet.
Hopefully Cleary wants to recruit to strengthen other areas of his squad(perhaps he wants to bring someone across who he recruited to the tigers like Packer or Matulino) and would be happy to lose a fullback option to do so given DWZ's form, Would also be a bit rich for Ivan and Gus to not let someone break there contract if they wanted out.
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kiwi raider wrote:
greeneyed wrote: January 8, 2019, 8:48 pm It is pretty clear from Craig's tweet he, at least, is talking about Edwards. I suspect the issue is whether the Panthers want him at No. 1 rather than Dallin Watene Zelezniak and whether they need to free up salary cap space... and whether they've come to grips with that yet.
Hopefully Cleary wants to recruit to strengthen other areas of his squad(perhaps he wants to bring someone across who he recruited to the tigers like Packer or Matulino) and would be happy to lose a fullback option to do so given DWZ's form, Would also be a bit rich for Ivan and Gus to not let someone break there contract if they wanted out.
Elijah Taylor has been released by the Tigers so maybe?

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Richie Kennar just cut short his Mormon mission and has joined the Broncos. Would have been great cover for Rapana.


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any chance he could be referring to Bevan French and not Edwards ?
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Westsydneyraider wrote:any chance he could be referring to Bevan French and not Edwards ?
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It would be heartbreaking if it was Bevan French.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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RTW wrote: January 9, 2019, 4:31 pm Richie Kennar just cut short his Mormon mission and has joined the Broncos. Would have been great cover for Rapana.


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julian87 wrote: January 10, 2019, 7:16 am It would be heartbreaking if it was Bevan French.
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It’s Edwards.
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Might be fullback from GWS or the Western Sydney Wanderers.

If any of those players are young Fijians I wouldn’t rule it out.
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BJ wrote: January 10, 2019, 8:23 am Might be fullback from GWS or the Western Sydney Wanderers.

If any of those players are young Fijians I wouldn’t rule it out.
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I would look a whole lot more optimistically at the 2019 season if we got Edwards at fullback and swapped Wighton to 6.
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Edwards would be a nice pick up... I'm not completely sold on Wighton to 6 but if we got Edwards I'd be happy with it. Wighton has improved a lot since his last go in the 6 jersey. He'd also have Hodgson helping guide the side which wasn't the case last time. I like the look of this come round 1:

1. Edwards
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Edwards at Fullback would definitely make us good enough to make the bottom of the 8.
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hopefully Panthers see D Edwards as D Eadwood... yeah okay that was bad
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julian87 wrote: January 10, 2019, 7:16 am It would be heartbreaking if it was Bevan French.
Haha that would be the most Raiders thing ever.

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Haven't seen enough of Edwards playing to have a definitive opinion either way, but getting a specialist and quality fullback in the squad makes the concept of moving Wighton to 6 a palatable option. Wouldn't do it otherwise though.
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julian87 wrote: January 10, 2019, 7:16 am It would be heartbreaking if it was Bevan French.
Haha can you even imagine going from thinking you've got Dylan Edwards on his way and then find out it's Bevan **** French?

If we sign Edwards, and i really hope we do... it's full speed ahead with Sezer-Wighton.
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Apologies if already answered, but can we use the Rapana money to sign a fullback or does it have to be a winger? If only a winger, what if we tell the NRL that we were gonna play Rapa fullback with Wighton to 6 - can it be fullback then?
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Supposed to sign "like for like". Don Furner has spoken about Rapana being a winger/fullback when talking about the Rapana cap relief. But the money is, in any case, effectively fungible, as the Raiders have about four top 30 spots vacant.
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Wiki Special wrote: January 10, 2019, 12:22 pm Apologies if already answered, but can we use the Rapana money to sign a fullback or does it have to be a winger? If only a winger, what if we tell the NRL that we were gonna play Rapa fullback with Wighton to 6 - can it be fullback then?
Rapana played winger/fullback, so Raiders can ask NRL if they can sign a winger/fullback
however with a contract at around $170k max you wouldn't want that player to be first choice fullback
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Knowing our luck the NRL says we can only sign Edwards as a winger using the cap relief then when Rapana comes back Edwards can move to fullback. So anyone keen on 14 rounds of Abbey at FB and Edwards on the wing?


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170 could work if Penrith are paying some freight and we backload. Provided the NRL offers that much flexibility.

I'd say Edwards is probably a 500k range player at the moment and on a bit less than that at Penrith.
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Brewdle wrote: January 10, 2019, 1:01 pm Knowing our luck the NRL says we can only sign Edwards as a winger using the cap relief then when Rapana comes back Edwards can move to fullback. So anyone keen on 14 rounds of Abbey at FB and Edwards on the wing?


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I don’t think that would be enforceable honestly.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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But it doesn’t have to be. We don’t need to spend the money ON Edwards to get the cap benefit FOR Edwards. Let’s sign a replacement player to fill the void of losing Ravalawa on up to $170k, he takes up one of the remaining spots on our 30 man roster (which has to happen anyway) and that frees up $170 that we WOULD have had to spend on another player to meet the minimum squad size.
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julian87 wrote:
Brewdle wrote: January 10, 2019, 1:01 pm Knowing our luck the NRL says we can only sign Edwards as a winger using the cap relief then when Rapana comes back Edwards can move to fullback. So anyone keen on 14 rounds of Abbey at FB and Edwards on the wing?


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I don’t think that would be enforceable honestly.
True. Name Abbey at 1 and Edwards at 2 and as soon as they hit the field they swap positions. How they force them not to.


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Brew wrote: January 10, 2019, 3:53 pm
julian87 wrote:
Brewdle wrote: January 10, 2019, 1:01 pm Knowing our luck the NRL says we can only sign Edwards as a winger using the cap relief then when Rapana comes back Edwards can move to fullback. So anyone keen on 14 rounds of Abbey at FB and Edwards on the wing?


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I don’t think that would be enforceable honestly.
True. Name Abbey at 1 and Edwards at 2 and as soon as they hit the field they swap positions. How they force them not to.


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yeah, all they can really do is try to make sure the player signed has been named at winger / fullback beforehand. Once a player is actually contracted, they can't really enforce how they play on the field.
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Explains why I’m not part of the brains trust...but can smash ya out a delicious burger


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It's the NRL, they can enforce whatever they want against our club.
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The NRL can't dictate where someone plays. Provided the Raiders present a reasonable argument that Rapa was a frontrunner to replace Wighton at fullback there won't be an issue using his dispensation to help secure Edwards.
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Can the 170 be used with other funds though?
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Coastalraider wrote: January 10, 2019, 1:37 pm But it doesn’t have to be. We don’t need to spend the money ON Edwards to get the cap benefit FOR Edwards. Let’s sign a replacement player to fill the void of losing Ravalawa on up to $170k, he takes up one of the remaining spots on our 30 man roster (which has to happen anyway) and that frees up $170 that we WOULD have had to spend on another player to meet the minimum squad size.
Yeah Im hoping this is the go. Surely the cap situation isn’t as dire as some are saying it might be.

I like to think we’re banking on that 180k or whatever it is being exempted for one signing of the next 3/4 spots. The other 1/2 being minimum wages and then what’s left getting Edwards over the line.

I don’t like Edwards as much as most. In fact if this whole thing has legs I actually agree with Penrith’s thinking of using DWZ there as I think he suits them more
And they were better when he moved there last year. But he is a genuine fullback and at this point would improve us.

The original Wighton to 6 experiment was one of the worst coaching blunders I’ve seen in this club. It fenced him in and he was horrible. But from memory he was matched with Campo, Buttris and Dugan? If that’s right then things have changed because Hodgson and our second rowers offer so much more than what we did back then. For it to work though Hodgson and Sezer need to really step up and do all organizing. Wighton needs to be a chime in rough and tumble 6. And it will only work if we have a fullback as good as Edwards. It won’t work with Cotric or Abbey.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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simo wrote: January 10, 2019, 5:41 pm Can the 170 be used with other funds though?
There was an interpretation in another tread that said the funds were to be used as the sole funds to sign a ‘replacement’ player.

Hence my argument for signing a 3rd stringer with that money, which by default releases the matching sum to spend on any player we want - ala Edwards.
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Brew wrote: January 10, 2019, 3:53 pm
julian87 wrote:
Brewdle wrote: January 10, 2019, 1:01 pm Knowing our luck the NRL says we can only sign Edwards as a winger using the cap relief then when Rapana comes back Edwards can move to fullback. So anyone keen on 14 rounds of Abbey at FB and Edwards on the wing?


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I don’t think that would be enforceable honestly.
True. Name Abbey at 1 and Edwards at 2 and as soon as they hit the field they swap positions. How they force them not to.


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Or in first tackle Abbey stays down, medic runs on, does some fancy wave to Ricky, shifts him to the wing and Edwards goes from wing to FB.

Camera pans to Ricky and hes laughing his bollocks off giving the wanker sign
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greeneyed wrote: January 10, 2019, 12:27 pm Supposed to sign "like for like". Don Furner has spoken about Rapana being a winger/fullback when talking about the Rapana cap relief. But the money is, in any case, effectively fungible, as the Raiders have about four top 30 spots vacant.
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