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Osaka’s has been deplorable this year. It’s a no from me.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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zim wrote: September 19, 2019, 9:59 pm I wouldn't touch Matterson, Isaako or Oates.

Matterson is not coming unless it's on something he thinks is boon dollar. He hasn't shown he is really interested in any club he's been at. Plenty of talent though.
Isaako I don't rate. Doesn't provide enough in attack to cover his average defence.
Oates has got too many errors in him for the money you'd pay.
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Lui_Bon wrote: September 19, 2019, 10:53 pm
zim wrote: September 19, 2019, 10:00 pm
Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 9:51 pm
gergreg wrote:I'd rather a Sezer trade (+ possible top up) for Isaako, Oates or TPJ.. the position we trade for is dependent on the BJ and Rapana situations. Bird is extremely unlikely to ever regain that Sharks form.

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That's what was said about tedesco with his glass knees, our staff would get the best from Bird. One year deal to prove himself.
Bird and his manager would laugh pretty hard at that as they limp out of the negotiations. He's going to get a solid deal not be pushed into our favoured terms.
There are sides worse off than us that would be very willing to take a punt.
Ya think? I'm a lot more inclined to think that most clubs will have bought into the narrative that Bird is a bust, than that all he needs is some decent medical attention, a solid rehab, and a bit of understanding of what his strengths are. We could be good for him.

What clubs are going to offer him that kind of deal? Roosters maybe, he can rehab for ages and be their next 5/8 outside Keary? Yeah I dunno. I can's see that he's got that much of a queue waiting for him...

Still not sure why we actually need him - that's a different argument about our centers.
Tigers (not happy with Marsters), Dragons (not happy with either centres), Titans (have no centres), Panthers (were starting Brett Naden for a good chunk) would all offer him more than a 1 year deal to prove himself. Leg injuries like his can be turned around and clubs will see an opportunity to do it. There's more clubs that would want him but the salary cap has left them off my list.
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zim wrote: September 20, 2019, 11:49 am
Lui_Bon wrote: September 19, 2019, 10:53 pm
zim wrote: September 19, 2019, 10:00 pm
Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 9:51 pm
gergreg wrote:I'd rather a Sezer trade (+ possible top up) for Isaako, Oates or TPJ.. the position we trade for is dependent on the BJ and Rapana situations. Bird is extremely unlikely to ever regain that Sharks form.

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That's what was said about tedesco with his glass knees, our staff would get the best from Bird. One year deal to prove himself.
Bird and his manager would laugh pretty hard at that as they limp out of the negotiations. He's going to get a solid deal not be pushed into our favoured terms.
There are sides worse off than us that would be very willing to take a punt.
Ya think? I'm a lot more inclined to think that most clubs will have bought into the narrative that Bird is a bust, than that all he needs is some decent medical attention, a solid rehab, and a bit of understanding of what his strengths are. We could be good for him.

What clubs are going to offer him that kind of deal? Roosters maybe, he can rehab for ages and be their next 5/8 outside Keary? Yeah I dunno. I can's see that he's got that much of a queue waiting for him...

Still not sure why we actually need him - that's a different argument about our centers.
Tigers (not happy with Marsters), Dragons (not happy with either centres), Titans (have no centres), Panthers (were starting Brett Naden for a good chunk) would all offer him more than a 1 year deal to prove himself. Leg injuries like his can be turned around and clubs will see an opportunity to do it.
I thought I read somewhere last night he was going to the panthers?
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I’d rather keep Leilua
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That's definitely my first choice. Even if we're only able to keep him for 1 more year.
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A friend of mine who is very dialled into the Panthers Organisation says that they are looking at one of Masters, Aitken and Scott for next season.

My preference would be to keep BJ, but I wouldn't be against Scott or Masters, providing we increase our cap space if we had to let BJ leave.
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Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 7:22 pm Nothing official, but what about bird on a 300k contract, with Broncos paying the rest ? If Joey goes after the grand final and maybe matterson too if Rapana and sezer go

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Surprised Broncos would release him. Sure he’s out of form and injury prone but a Bird in the hand’s worth two in the bush... Same reason we shouldn’t release Starling...
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Billy Walker wrote:
Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 7:22 pm Nothing official, but what about bird on a 300k contract, with Broncos paying the rest ? If Joey goes after the grand final and maybe matterson too if Rapana and sezer go

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Surprised Broncos would release him. Sure he’s out of form and injury prone but a Bird in the hand’s worth two in the bush... Same reason we shouldn’t release Starling...
He might fly the coop
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Billy Walker wrote:
Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 7:22 pm Nothing official, but what about bird on a 300k contract, with Broncos paying the rest ? If Joey goes after the grand final and maybe matterson too if Rapana and sezer go

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Surprised Broncos would release him. Sure he’s out of form and injury prone but a Bird in the hand’s worth two in the bush... Same reason we shouldn’t release Starling...
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gergreg wrote: September 20, 2019, 5:39 pm
Billy Walker wrote:
Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 7:22 pm Nothing official, but what about bird on a 300k contract, with Broncos paying the rest ? If Joey goes after the grand final and maybe matterson too if Rapana and sezer go

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Surprised Broncos would release him. Sure he’s out of form and injury prone but a Bird in the hand’s worth two in the bush... Same reason we shouldn’t release Starling...
One of your best Billy. And its a true reflection of the standard of your regular output.

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Looks like you've run a fowl of gegerg there Billy
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Looks like toucan play at that game.
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The Kwik-e-mart is really... d'oh!
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An eagle is another type of bird.
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Sid wrote: September 20, 2019, 6:36 pm An eagle is another type of bird.
So is a dodo.
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Oooh I've got one.

Billy, you're a goose.

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gergreg wrote: September 20, 2019, 6:52 pm Oooh I've got one.

Billy, you're a goose.

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What do you call a young male chicken Gergreg? Just saying 😉
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Is it a Billy Walker? Or a silly talker?

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Billy Walker wrote:
gergreg wrote: September 20, 2019, 6:52 pm Oooh I've got one.

Billy, you're a goose.

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You know your teams travelling ok when it’s supporters are filling time talking rubbish for something to do second week of finals. 😎
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sharks and broncos fans also seem to have a lot of spare time this week
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Billy Walker wrote:You know your teams travelling ok when it’s supporters are filling time talking rubbish for something to do second week of finals. Image
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reptar wrote: September 20, 2019, 6:35 pm The Kwik-e-mart is really... d'oh!
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GreenMachine wrote: September 20, 2019, 1:24 pm A friend of mine who is very dialled into the Panthers Organisation says that they are looking at one of Masters, Aitken and Scott for next season.

My preference would be to keep BJ, but I wouldn't be against Scott or Masters, providing we increase our cap space if we had to let BJ leave.
Hahaha I bet they buy Aitken. Cleary is The Master.
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gergreg wrote:Oooh I've got one.

Billy, you're a goose.

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Hahaha I love you gerg
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Not an actual rumour, but you know I like to bang on about young players over here in the UK.

Jack Walker and Jake Trueman, who I've mentioned before, are both up for Young Player of the Year and another nominee is Morgan Smithies.

He's an old-style English loose forward - tough and skillful and he's 18 years of age.

On Friday night, in a finals game for Wigan against Salford, he made 72 tackles in the 62 minutes he was on the field. Those in the know suggest that his attack is even better than his defence.

His emergence in the second half of this season is one of the key reasons Wigan have been able to overcome the loss of Bateman.

One to keep an eye on, for sure.
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Imagine if we come knocking on Wigan’s door again!
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Coastalraider wrote: September 20, 2019, 11:50 am
zim wrote: September 20, 2019, 11:49 am
Lui_Bon wrote: September 19, 2019, 10:53 pm
zim wrote: September 19, 2019, 10:00 pm
Neeeegz wrote: September 19, 2019, 9:51 pm That's what was said about tedesco with his glass knees, our staff would get the best from Bird. One year deal to prove himself.
Bird and his manager would laugh pretty hard at that as they limp out of the negotiations. He's going to get a solid deal not be pushed into our favoured terms.
There are sides worse off than us that would be very willing to take a punt.
Ya think? I'm a lot more inclined to think that most clubs will have bought into the narrative that Bird is a bust, than that all he needs is some decent medical attention, a solid rehab, and a bit of understanding of what his strengths are. We could be good for him.

What clubs are going to offer him that kind of deal? Roosters maybe, he can rehab for ages and be their next 5/8 outside Keary? Yeah I dunno. I can's see that he's got that much of a queue waiting for him...

Still not sure why we actually need him - that's a different argument about our centers.
Tigers (not happy with Marsters), Dragons (not happy with either centres), Titans (have no centres), Panthers (were starting Brett Naden for a good chunk) would all offer him more than a 1 year deal to prove himself. Leg injuries like his can be turned around and clubs will see an opportunity to do it.
I thought I read somewhere last night he was going to the panthers?
Triple M are saying he is off to Panthers to play 5/8 with Maloney out. :lol:
Id have Bird at centre and Luai at 6
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There is a reason I called my fantasy side the 'Wigan Raiders' this yr. @Mr Posh, make it happen :lol:
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I really appreciate how you keep us in the loop on English players, Mr Posh. Good work.
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MrPosh wrote: September 22, 2019, 11:20 pm Not an actual rumour, but you know I like to bang on about young players over here in the UK.

Jack Walker and Jake Trueman, who I've mentioned before, are both up for Young Player of the Year and another nominee is Morgan Smithies.

He's an old-style English loose forward - tough and skillful and he's 18 years of age.

On Friday night, in a finals game for Wigan against Salford, he made 72 tackles in the 62 minutes he was on the field. Those in the know suggest that his attack is even better than his defence.

His emergence in the second half of this season is one of the key reasons Wigan have been able to overcome the loss of Bateman.

One to keep an eye on, for sure.
Ok I say we recruit Morgan Smithers as you suggest and then throw the bank at young Souths winger Braidon Burns.

It would soften the loss of Leipana if we managed to have Smithers and Burns defending an edge.
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Lots of talk around Rapana joining Japanese Rugby next year.
Anyone heard anything about this?
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GreenMachine wrote: September 26, 2019, 8:31 am Lots of talk around Rapana joining Japanese Rugby next year.
Anyone heard anything about this?
Doesn’t want to but money would be good
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