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Yeah, seems it was taken down.
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edwahu wrote: June 18, 2019, 4:42 pm Not Raiders related but it could easily have flow on effects. The Dogs are supposed to have offered Mitchell a 10 year, 11.5m dollar deal.

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If you search for the link in Google you can view the cached version.
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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2019

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Not unless you saw it before it was taken down. The story headline certainly still appears in Google if you search Latrell Mitchell.
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Back now
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 64f2e8260e

Seems they dropped the deal 500k to 11m, this new one is much more reasonable :lol:
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T_R wrote: June 18, 2019, 8:48 am
DOGMAN wrote: June 18, 2019, 4:54 am Jake Connor Hull FC

wow this lad can play, check him out, I have a strong feeling Jake will be a NRL player, but who will sign him , my guess is Rabbitohs, just a long shot
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11 million dollar, 10 year play?? That's a bold strategy, Cotton!
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Dogs are desperate

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They must want to play him at fullback for that money.
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edwahu wrote: June 18, 2019, 5:45 pm They must want to play him at fullback for that money.
Might want him playing both halves and hooker as well!
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Deadset overrated.



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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2019

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The Rickman wrote:11 million dollar, 10 year play?? That's a bold strategy, Cotton!
It’s a good offer. Salary cap will continue to go up every year so in 4 - 5 years time it will probably be the average price for a blue chip centre


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LastRaider wrote: June 18, 2019, 5:55 pm
The Rickman wrote:11 million dollar, 10 year play?? That's a bold strategy, Cotton!
It’s a good offer. Salary cap will continue to go up every year so in 4 - 5 years time it will probably be the average price for a blue chip centre


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And they'll have to upgrade him commensurate with the salary cap increase or he'll walk away as soon as someone offers him more.

10 year contracts are a stupid idea.
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greeneyed wrote:I added in the highlights packages for Dogman.
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The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 5:58 pm
LastRaider wrote: June 18, 2019, 5:55 pm
The Rickman wrote:11 million dollar, 10 year play?? That's a bold strategy, Cotton!
It’s a good offer. Salary cap will continue to go up every year so in 4 - 5 years time it will probably be the average price for a blue chip centre


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And they'll have to upgrade him commensurate with the salary cap increase or he'll walk away as soon as someone offers him more.

10 year contracts are a stupid idea.
To players with what looks to be a growing rumble of off field and personal issues... It's got such a huge chance of backfiring that it's classic Doggies cap management. Fire away Bulldogs...

I don't rate him higher than (a fit) Joey Leilua as a centre and I wouldn't want to pay Joey that much either...
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Hope the dogs get him for that, sign up the kid!

A. He looks to be a lot of work to keep on the field and in form, has a bit of that petulant child syndrome seemingly has a tanty when things don’t go his way you can even catch some of this going on on the field if you watch closely.

someone here compared him to Walker and that appears to be reasonably accurate, but Andrew just went Walk About... this fella has a sook.

B. Roosters lose him, I’ll enjoy that.

C. Lot of money for someone described in point A. Doubt he will see out that contract, so the Roosters loose and the Dogs loose... that’s a win for everyone else and park football in 5 years.
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Organised Chaos wrote:Hope the dogs get him for that, sign up the kid!

A. He looks to be a lot of work to keep on the field and in form, has a bit of that petulant child syndrome seemingly has a tanty when things don’t go his way you can even catch some of this going on on the field if you watch closely.

someone here compared him to Walker and that appears to be reasonably accurate, but Andrew just went Walk About... this fella has a sook.

B. Roosters lose him, I’ll enjoy that.

C. Lot of money for someone described in point A. Doubt he will see out that contract, so the Roosters loose and the Dogs loose... that’s a win for everyone else and park football in 5 years.
He won't leave the roosters when cronk retires this year it frees up like 7.8 million of the salary cap

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thedevilingreen wrote:
Organised Chaos wrote:Hope the dogs get him for that, sign up the kid!

A. He looks to be a lot of work to keep on the field and in form, has a bit of that petulant child syndrome seemingly has a tanty when things don’t go his way you can even catch some of this going on on the field if you watch closely.

someone here compared him to Walker and that appears to be reasonably accurate, but Andrew just went Walk About... this fella has a sook.

B. Roosters lose him, I’ll enjoy that.

C. Lot of money for someone described in point A. Doubt he will see out that contract, so the Roosters loose and the Dogs loose... that’s a win for everyone else and park football in 5 years.
He won't leave the roosters when cronk retires this year it frees up like 7.8 million of the salary cap

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LastRaider wrote: June 18, 2019, 5:55 pm
The Rickman wrote:11 million dollar, 10 year play?? That's a bold strategy, Cotton!
It’s a good offer. Salary cap will continue to go up every year so in 4 - 5 years time it will probably be the average price for a blue chip centre


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The cap won't go up like it used to. The next broadcast rights may not even cover inflation.

SMH is now reporting 5 years for 5 million which is a bit more sensible.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/bulldo ... 51yz1.html
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11mil, 10 years feels like a MAJOR deal, but in 5 years time when a new TV deal comes down and revenue continues to rise, and the cap is now 12-15mil, 1.1mil for the best outside back in the game is probably going to actually be below market
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Why would the next TV rights be more?
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reptar wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:58 pm Why would the next TV rights be more?
TV might not be but digital will be a lot more and total revenue will be higher. It won't be growing exponentially like in the past though.
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It literally doesn’t matter what the cap does, because if the cap goes up, his salary will go up.

You can’t tell me in 5 seasons that if Latrell Mitchell is still a stud and he’s being paid in the low bracket that he won’t just walk out of his deal and go somewhere else

Long term deals are absolutely stupid
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He would do a SBW and walk out after 2 years.


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Of course he would. Any elite player who is locked into an awful contract for the next five years and essentially the rest of their career would be mad not to
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The Roosters will not lose a player they want to keep. They will find a way, if they want to. If they don't... hey presto, the Bulldogs are in even more salary cap trouble!
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It’s mind boggling for the dogs to even consider doing this on the year they finally get out of cap trouble

Like, they have the wooden spoon wrapped up this season and probably next, and they want to flush their cap back down the toilet?
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If it is 5 years for 5 million and it's to play fullback it's a gamble but worth it. That would take him through to 28 when the deal finishes which is when athletic backs start to slow down.

10 years is crazy, Inglis was a spent force by 29.
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There's no one within the Bulldogs sanctum capable of counting to 10.
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Despite all the soothing noises coming out of the Roosters camp I wouldnt be too surprised if they decided that Latrell was more trouble than he is worth.
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The Rickman wrote: June 18, 2019, 8:14 pm It literally doesn’t matter what the cap does, because if the cap goes up, his salary will go up.

You can’t tell me in 5 seasons that if Latrell Mitchell is still a stud and he’s being paid in the low bracket that he won’t just walk out of his deal and go somewhere else

Long term deals are absolutely stupid
I guess in reality, that is true. The player empowerment era is here and underpaid player and unhappy player will get out of his deal if there is more money on offer, and If he's still the best back in the world, he's probably not going to accept being underpaid to the market.

So point well made.
In theory 11m over 10 years is a good deal. But yeah i guess that's never going to hold up if it's under market
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reptar wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:58 pm Why would the next TV rights be more?
Because they never go down. Ever. The ONLY thing that is ratings proof right now is live sports, and advertisers know it.
Binge watching has diminished the TV ratings across drama shows etc... but you cant binge watch live sports. You just cant.
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Cranky Old Man wrote:Despite all the soothing noises coming out of the Roosters camp I wouldnt be too surprised if they decided that Latrell was more trouble than he is worth.
I still maintain that the injury he suffered playing the Raiders was actually worse than made out. He only returned to play that game because they had two players who weren't able to return. He hasn't looked the same since that game.


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PigRickman wrote:
reptar wrote: June 18, 2019, 7:58 pm Why would the next TV rights be more?
Because they never go down. Ever. The ONLY thing that is ratings proof right now is live sports, and advertisers know it.
Binge watching has diminished the TV ratings across drama shows etc... but you cant binge watch live sports. You just cant.
except for the A league, that's a tv deal going down
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PigRickman wrote:11mil, 10 years feels like a MAJOR deal, but in 5 years time when a new TV deal comes down and revenue continues to rise, and the cap is now 12-15mil, 1.1mil for the best outside back in the game is probably going to actually be below market
Until he obliterates his knee campo style and they're stuck with a shell of a player for 9 years cause noone wants a bar of him

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