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simo wrote: January 23, 2019, 10:15 am Yeah i mean the first run after the kick return. If the kick is near the sideline with a decent chase the run is always the center. Croker gets hammered on this usually. Rapana is a freak but missing for 12 rounds.
So you want to know the stat for who takes the first hitup after the kick return, when the kick was near the sideline and there was a decent kick chase ?
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Yep id like to see a stat that probably doesnt exist. Is that ok? Its specific but quite a common occurrence and it can make a madsive difference on a “working the ball back out” set
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Do wingers actually earn more than centres?

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gergreg wrote: January 23, 2019, 10:36 am Do wingers actually earn more than centres?

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gergreg wrote: January 23, 2019, 10:36 am Do wingers actually earn more than centres?

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I think they would be generally pretty close for the top end but wingers would be on less at the bottom end.
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simo wrote: January 23, 2019, 10:15 am Yeah i mean the first run after the kick return. If the kick is near the sideline with a decent chase the run is always the center. Croker gets hammered on this usually. Rapana is a freak but missing for 12 rounds.
Croker is one of the best in the game at this imo. Gets moving quicker than most, spots off side players well and routinely gets to his stomach and earns the team a holding down penalty.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Yeah if there was a stat for penalties earned he would've led it last year. It was weird to see him get so many last year after years of the refs ignoring him getting run off the ball every bomb.
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Captains in the NRL are awarded penalties by the refs above the statistical norm. This might ensure some extra penalties around the ruck for Hodgson this season.
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He's also learnt how to fight / milk more effectively on the ground. There's an actual change in technique there.
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Oldfield is a big enough body and decent runner, Croker is wily enough at it, Cotric can do it all. Hopefully BJ gets involved there to take up Rapa's slack. It's an area I think we are reasonably well served in actually compared to a lot of teams.
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zim wrote:He's also learnt how to fight / milk more effectively on the ground. There's an actual change in technique there.
Most definitely. You actually have to make it look like you are trying to get up. Rather than Netflix and chilling on the ground with a defender.

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Croker needed to move to the wing 5 years ago, it's just "one punch too many" I think.

We have forgotten the emotional toll it would have taken on Sticky to move on players like Campo, Shillo, Fensom, etc.

They all had to go, but they were all lovely club-men, that stuff is soul destroying.

I think Croker will move eventually, but, I think Rick's burnt out on those huge (emotional) decisions for now...
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Moving Croker to the wing and Cotric into the centres sounds like a great idea. That way we can completely **** up the one established combo left in our backline from the past 3 seasons. And when it all turns to **** we can turn around and blame the coach. :thumbsup

Rapana -> Rehab
Abbey -> Fullback
Wighton -> 5/8
Cotric -> Centre
Croker -> Wing
Oldfield -> Wing
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OK... this is the signing speculation thread. There’s more than one 2019 selection thread discussions. Please post those there.
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greeneyed wrote:OK... this is the signing speculation thread. There’s more than one 2019 selection thread discussions. Please post those there.
The two topics are linked. Need to know what positions / signings we need to speculate on! Otherwise we will end up with another bloody international 2nd Rower or another cousin of Jarrod Hayne!


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You’re right Rick, it’s a great discussion, just trying to steer people to the most relevant threads.
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Any more whispers on Edwards?


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DWZ was in the captain's call with Todd Greenberg. If he's captain I'd say that's pretty much a lock for fullback. Surely Edwards or the bloke below him can see the writing on the wall.
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zim wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:24 am DWZ was in the captain's call with Todd Greenberg. If he's captain I'd say that's pretty much a lock for fullback. Surely Edwards or the bloke below him can see the writing on the wall.
You would think so.
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Why can't a winger be captain? I know it's rare but I don't see why it can't happen.
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edwahu wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:38 am Why can't a winger be captain? I know it's rare but I don't see why it can't happen.
Agreed. You could easily make your co captain a winger 😄
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Matt wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:37 am
zim wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:24 am DWZ was in the captain's call with Todd Greenberg. If he's captain I'd say that's pretty much a lock for fullback. Surely Edwards or the bloke below him can see the writing on the wall.
You would think so.
Isnt Yeo their captain?
I thought he was but the only information I can find says it's James Maloney.
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edwahu wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:38 am Why can't a winger be captain? I know it's rare but I don't see why it can't happen.
Because that captain is gunning for the fullback spot?
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zim wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:41 am
Matt wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:37 am
zim wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:24 am DWZ was in the captain's call with Todd Greenberg. If he's captain I'd say that's pretty much a lock for fullback. Surely Edwards or the bloke below him can see the writing on the wall.
You would think so.
Isnt Yeo their captain?
I thought he was but the only information I can find says it's James Maloney.
I thought yeo stood in as captain for one game
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simo wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:47 am
zim wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:41 am
Matt wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:37 am
zim wrote: January 24, 2019, 10:24 am DWZ was in the captain's call with Todd Greenberg. If he's captain I'd say that's pretty much a lock for fullback. Surely Edwards or the bloke below him can see the writing on the wall.
You would think so.
Isnt Yeo their captain?
I thought he was but the only information I can find says it's James Maloney.
I thought yeo stood in as captain for one game
I remember him being captain at some stage. Maloney was injured for a few rounds.
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Haven't seen a lot of Edwards, but general ideas on him I picked up scrolling through a Panthers forum seems to be

Strengths
Running the ball back / running metres in general
Support play

Weaknesses
Not a ball playing fullback, which is a big one in modern league
Injury Prone

Seems quite good in most areas of his game

Most Panthers fans seem to prefer Edwards at fullback, but the biggest reasoning on that seems to be because DWZ is a much better option than Edwards in the outside backs.

one impressive stat is that from his 25 appearances he has a 68% win record
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So Cotric would be a better version of Edwards... and it's easier to find a budget price decent winger than it is to bring in a decent FG fullback...
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I don’t think Cotric will be a fullback. Centre, eventually even back rows a possibility. I would leave him and Crocker exactly where they are for this year.


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Agreed, Cotric is not a long term fullback option.
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I remember one of Edwards first few games he ran for over 300m. Was very good at returning the ball and exploiting gaps in tired defences.
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Sounds like the kind of player we need. Kick returns has never been wightons strong point. Nor is his support play. Let's hope it happens!
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Lurker suggesting we are in the market for a half and a full back. Also suggests the Raiders were indeed keen on Edwards but Penrith wont release him.

Hands off

The Raiders are desperate to purchase a halfback, a fullback or both before the season gets underway.

However, their search has so far proven fruitless.

There was interest in prying Penrith fullback Dylan Edwards out of the club and down to the nation's capital.

However, the Raiders have politely been told 'hands off'.

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Yeah they’d know 😂
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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There's still six weeks to go... you never know.
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