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Re: What's your strongest possible Canberra Raiders 2019 line up?

Post by Woodgers » January 23, 2019, 11:29 am

I think the coach can get a better picture on who fits where, especially on the bench, if he uses the trials properly. If we are considering Horsburgh then play him properly in the trials, same with Sutton and J.Bateman and the 7's winger to see what works best with a side told they're all competing for Round 1 spots. The trials also need to work out the Wighton/Williams/Abbey scenario too. These things are critical before R1. I've never been either way on the trials debate but this year I don't think the significance of them can be understated. I'm curious to see how Ricky approaches these games and whether he treats them with the usual contempt and is simply proceeding with them because a review recommended he does it.
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Post by thedevilingreen » January 23, 2019, 6:10 pm

edwahu wrote:
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Yeah put me in the talent ahead of effort camp (to an extent). Im sure someone could create a talent to effort equation with supporting graph for me
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I've been looking at this graph the last couple of days needs to be changed to 99% Ricky for it too be more accurate

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Post by Bigcheese » January 24, 2019, 7:33 am

Allowing for Rapana being out.

1. Oldfield
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Kris
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Lui
9. Hodgson
10. Paps
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J Bateman

14. Havili
15. Sutton
16. Guler
17. Soliola

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Post by Seiffert82 » January 24, 2019, 8:39 am

Yeah, I'd be very happy with that as long as it's 1. Edwards 5. Olfield.

Without Edwards it's 1. Wighton, 5. Oldfield, 6. Williams.

Our depth is pretty horrendous this season.

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » January 24, 2019, 8:49 am

Seiffert82 wrote:
January 24, 2019, 8:39 am
Yeah, I'd be very happy with that as long as it's 1. Edwards 5. Olfield.

Without Edwards it's 1. Wighton, 5. Oldfield, 6. Williams.

Our depth is pretty horrendous this season.
We have no depth in the backs.

Kris is about the only one but he looked a long way off first grade standard last year. Do we have any young star backs coming through?

We have to be looking for an outside back , at least 1 , hopefully 2 .
A good fullback to allow Wighton to move to 5/8 without losing too much.

If Wighton is moved to 5/8 without recruiting then its between Cotric , Abbey and Oldfield for the fullback spot until Raps comes back midway through the year and that isn't pretty.

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Post by edwahu » January 24, 2019, 9:12 am

Oldfield isn't a fullback option. His game is basically running in a straight line, which he does very well. Playing him at center was bad enough.

Kris could play on the wing but he looked years off last season and I think with his build he would be more of a center anyway, I reckon he would struggle against attacking kicks on the wing.

We will surely sign another winger with Rapanas cash but if there is an injury I would think Bateman would go back to center.

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Post by Matt » January 24, 2019, 11:06 am

You guys are forgetting that All Blacks 7s kid Simonsson. By all accounts he is training very well, and has a better skill set due to being a 7s player.

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Post by BadnMean » January 24, 2019, 11:26 am

Matt wrote:
January 24, 2019, 11:06 am
You guys are forgetting that All Blacks 7s kid Simonsson. By all accounts he is training very well, and has a better skill set due to being a 7s player.
Haven't forgotten him... but no-ones seen him tackle yet or even play a game of league, so I'm not really putting him in then pile.

None of our other 7's signings have worked out. I can't think of many that have worked out for any club (there probably are, I just don't know them). 7's is fast & has open space, you make the odd tackle but very rarely have to hold a disciplined line in defence for repeat plays & never really make decisions with multiple bodies at angles/layers of attack ala league.

It's tackle, tackle, scrambling, try. Tackle, scramble, tackle, tackle, chase a kick. Repeat.

He'll be a lovely bonus if he turns out to be anything but I'm not planning for him.

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Post by edwahu » January 24, 2019, 11:29 am

Matt wrote:
January 24, 2019, 11:06 am
You guys are forgetting that All Blacks 7s kid Simonsson. By all accounts he is training very well, and has a better skill set due to being a 7s player.
He is a development player.

Plus defense is a skill and Union 7s has hardly any.

Bateman just played half a super league season at center and was arguably the best player in the comp. It's not like moving Tapine or Whitehead in there of we need cover.

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Post by Sid » January 24, 2019, 11:47 am

can't think of 7's players that have transferred to NRL very well. Didn't we have a reggies player that played in the Australian 7's side a few years back? Have a feeling their last name started with H

Edit: think it was an Australian touch player, not 7’s
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Post by edwahu » January 24, 2019, 11:52 am

Noa started there.

We had Dukawaqa last year, who was a gold medal winning Fijian 7's player. He lasted about a month and never got past playing country footy.

However Simonsson played Harold Matthews for us so he at least has a League background.

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Re: What's your strongest possible Canberra Raiders 2019 line up?

Post by Gazman » February 5, 2019, 9:20 pm

1. Cotric (until Rapa is back)
2. Croker (Cotric when Rapa back)
3. Bateman (Croker when Rapa back)
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Soliola (Papa with Rapa)
11. Tapine
12. Papalli (Bateman with Rapa)
13. Whitehead

14. Havili
15. Guler
16. Murchie
17. Lui (Soliola with Rapa)


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Re: What's your strongest possible Canberra Raiders 2019 line up?

Post by BadnMean » February 5, 2019, 11:31 pm

Gazman wrote:
February 5, 2019, 9:20 pm
1. Cotric (until Rapa is back)
2. Croker (Cotric when Rapa back)
3. Bateman (Croker when Rapa back)
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Soliola (Papa with Rapa)
11. Tapine
12. Papalli (Bateman with Rapa)
13. Whitehead

14. Havili
15. Guler
16. Murchie
17. Lui (Soliola with Rapa)


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You are basing your entire team & season on the unscheduled comeback of a player from long term injury who will return at an unknown date/round into a position he has never played before... Which involves a mid-season six player shuffle upon that return...

Bold.

Supercoach has a lot to answer for.

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Post by Neeeegz » February 6, 2019, 7:59 am

Wighton
Cotric
Croker
Bj
Oldfield/ rapana
Sezer
Williams
Papa
Hodgson
Liu
Tapine
J Bateman
Whitehead

Havilli
Sia
Guler
Sutton

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Post by BJ » February 6, 2019, 8:02 am

I had to laugh at the news report about Wighton to 5/8th.

“It’s a position not unfamiliar to Wighton, with the 25-year-old having started there in nine games in 2014. Wighton also hasn’t been shy to put boot to ball, averaging six kicks and 197 metres per game.”

Problem was those six kicks were from inside the 10 metre zone.

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Post by Gazman » February 6, 2019, 10:49 am

BadnMean wrote:
Gazman wrote:
February 5, 2019, 9:20 pm
1. Cotric (until Rapa is back)
2. Croker (Cotric when Rapa back)
3. Bateman (Croker when Rapa back)
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Soliola (Papa with Rapa)
11. Tapine
12. Papalli (Bateman with Rapa)
13. Whitehead

14. Havili
15. Guler
16. Murchie
17. Lui (Soliola with Rapa)


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You are basing your entire team & season on the unscheduled comeback of a player from long term injury who will return at an unknown date/round into a position he has never played before... Which involves a mid-season six player shuffle upon that return...

Bold.

Supercoach has a lot to answer for.



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Post by Gazman » February 6, 2019, 11:23 am

Rapa will be back round 13 so we get the salary cap relief.

He has also played a few games at FB for raiders. Last time in 2015 - there was an article where he said it’s his favoured position.


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Post by SeeBee101 » February 6, 2019, 12:16 pm

Gazman wrote:
February 6, 2019, 11:23 am
Rapa will be back round 13 so we get the salary cap relief.

He has also played a few games at FB for raiders. Last time in 2015 - there was an article where he said it’s his favoured position.


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If that's the case, we still need another winger to replace him should he move there permanently. Still can't believe it looks like Gennings is going to Tigers. Why??? they have Thompson and Nolo??

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Post by LP Raider » February 6, 2019, 2:26 pm

Neeeegz wrote:
February 6, 2019, 7:59 am
Wighton
Cotric
Croker
Bj
Oldfield/ rapana
Sezer
Williams
Papa
Hodgson
Liu
Tapine
Master
Whitehead

Havilli
Sia
Guler
Sutton

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Post by Makaveli » February 6, 2019, 5:19 pm

Surely Hingano gets another run at wing given his performance there against the Panthers last year

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Post by greeneyed » February 8, 2019, 5:25 pm

So with the recruitment of Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad today... do you have changes to your strongest starting line up for 2019?
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Post by Dusty » February 8, 2019, 5:34 pm

Yep. My Round 1 line up is now as follows...

1. Nicoll-Klokstad
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. Leilua
5. Oldfield
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Sutton
9. Hodgson
10. Papalii
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. J. Bateman

14. Havili
15. Horsburgh
16. Soliola
17. Guler


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2019: 1. Wighton 2. Cotric 3. Croker (c) 4 Leilua 5. Oldfield (Rapana) 6. Williams 7. Sezer 8. Sutton 9. Hodgson (c) 10. Papalii 11. Tapine 12. Whitehead 13. J.Bateman ----
14. Havili 15. Soliola 16. Guler 17. Lui

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Post by edwahu » February 8, 2019, 5:38 pm

No changes for mine

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Post by greeneyed » February 8, 2019, 5:39 pm

Assuming we don’t get another fullback like Edwards, I reckon it’s most like Nicoll-Klokstad will be on the wing and Oldfield at fullback. But it’s a worry if we expect Oldfield to cover No. 1 for the whole season.
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Post by edwahu » February 8, 2019, 5:51 pm

Oldfield at fullback is going to be a disaster. I can't believe that's the option been considered.

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Post by Rick » February 8, 2019, 6:01 pm

Does Oldfield have much experience at Fullback?


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Post by Matt » February 8, 2019, 6:12 pm

Rick wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:01 pm
Does Oldfield have much experience at Fullback?


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Post by Matt » February 8, 2019, 6:20 pm

I will re-address my side, because it was based on the Abbey vs Williams theory for that final spine spot. Now that we have CNK it changes things.

1. CNK
2. Cotric
3. Croker
4. BJ
5. Oldie
6. Wighton
7. Sezer
8. Sia
9. Hodgo
10. Papa
11. Tarpz
12. Whitey
13. JBateo

14. Havili
15. Guler
16. Sutton
17. Lui

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Post by -GD- » February 8, 2019, 6:30 pm

Oldfield at fullback has to be a gee up...

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Post by BadnMean » February 8, 2019, 6:41 pm

Matt wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:12 pm
Rick wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:01 pm
Does Oldfield have much experience at Fullback?


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Not in the NRL or ESL. Only lower grades.
Mounties? Old cup? How did he look there?

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Post by Rick » February 8, 2019, 6:54 pm

Given how much his name has been tossed up to jump into FB I thought he must have been a FB over in the UK. If it’s between those two I’m going with CNK


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Post by edwahu » February 8, 2019, 6:58 pm

Rick wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:54 pm
Given how much his name has been tossed up to jump into FB I thought he must have been a FB over in the UK. If it’s between those two I’m going with CNK


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Nope. Not based on the records at least.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/playe ... tions.html

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Post by Matt » February 8, 2019, 7:06 pm

BadnMean wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:41 pm
Matt wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:12 pm
Rick wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:01 pm
Does Oldfield have much experience at Fullback?


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Not in the NRL or ESL. Only lower grades.
Mounties? Old cup? How did he look there?
Not sure TBH, sorry

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Post by edwahu » February 8, 2019, 7:08 pm

I don't remember him ever playing there in mounties. His game really isn't suited, if it happens it's another Hingano brainwave.

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Post by Matt » February 8, 2019, 7:09 pm

edwahu wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:58 pm
Rick wrote:
February 8, 2019, 6:54 pm
Given how much his name has been tossed up to jump into FB I thought he must have been a FB over in the UK. If it’s between those two I’m going with CNK


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Nope. Not based on the records at least.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/playe ... tions.html
I went through it all too. No senior games at FB.

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