Canberra Raiders stick by Huawei

Green eyed Mick · Post by **Green eyed Mick** » December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm

We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.

Bay53 · Post by **Bay53** » December 7, 2018, 7:36 pm

Mick, the reason they are the sponsor is to try and get them in the minds of everyday Australians so that they will be able to participate in Australian government business.

Green eyed Mick · Post by **Green eyed Mick** » December 7, 2018, 7:43 pm

Bay53 wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:36 pm Mick, the reason they are the sponsor is to try and get them in the minds of everyday Australians so that they will be able to participate in Australian government business.

Yes, I know how marketing works.

At least they aren't James Hardy

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.

You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.

Botman · Post by **Botman** » December 7, 2018, 7:59 pm

Schifty · Post by **Schifty** » December 7, 2018, 8:20 pm

At least now we have some leverage in sponsorship talks..

Northern Raider · Post by **Northern Raider** » December 7, 2018, 8:24 pm

edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.

Yes but the CFO of that company sold some phones to Iran. Sack Don.

Post by **T_R** » December 8, 2018, 8:08 am

Northern Raider wrote:
edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.

Yes but the CFO of that company sold some phones to Iran. Sack Don.

The daughter of the founder re-exported US manufactured goods to Iran.

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » December 8, 2018, 9:44 am

T_R wrote: ↑December 8, 2018, 8:08 am
Northern Raider wrote:
edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.

Yes but the CFO of that company sold some phones to Iran. Sack Don.
The daughter of the founder re-exported US manufactured goods to Iran.

She should've sold them weapons instead, that doesn't get you jail time.

Post by **T_R** » December 8, 2018, 9:50 am

Only when funds are funnelled into Central American communist rebels.

Green eyed Mick · Post by **Green eyed Mick** » December 8, 2018, 1:17 pm

edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.

That's clearly not what I meant. I was merely pointing out that there is now a great deal of negative publicity surrounding the club's major sponsor.

Bay53 · Post by **Bay53** » December 8, 2018, 3:08 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 8, 2018, 1:17 pm
edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.
That's clearly not what I meant. I was merely pointing out that there is now a great deal of negative publicity surrounding the club's major sponsor.

No what you meant was just another cheap shot at the Raiders management. You like doing that.

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » December 8, 2018, 4:34 pm

Negative publicity for the sponsor. Care factor low.

hrundi89 · Post by **hrundi89** » December 10, 2018, 11:00 am

"We sure can pick them."

Post by **dubby** » December 10, 2018, 11:30 am

cfmeu were more concerning to our brand IMO

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Post by **T_R** » December 10, 2018, 11:37 am

dubby wrote:cfmeu were more concerning to our brand IMO

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I got abused at an airport once for wearing a raiders top with the CFMEU logo.

Kind of ironic, with my view on unions.

Post by **dubby** » December 10, 2018, 11:39 am

Kind of ironic?

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Post by **T_R** » December 10, 2018, 12:00 pm

Ive never agreed with a torrent of abuse so strongly!

Botman · Post by **Botman** » December 10, 2018, 7:50 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 8, 2018, 1:17 pm
edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.
That's clearly not what I meant. I was merely pointing out that there is now a great deal of negative publicity surrounding the club's major sponsor.

No one is buying that.

You still need to go and pick the ball out the net regarding the Wagga game... then you can come back and do some more picking of the net here.

I've read half a dozen articles about this and not one of them has even mentioned this club.

Finchy · Post by **Finchy** » December 11, 2018, 9:38 am

Pigman wrote: ↑December 10, 2018, 7:50 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 8, 2018, 1:17 pm
edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.
That's clearly not what I meant. I was merely pointing out that there is now a great deal of negative publicity surrounding the club's major sponsor.
No one is buying that.
You still need to go and pick the ball out the net regarding the Wagga game... then you can come back and do some more picking of the net here.

I've read half a dozen articles about this and not one of them has even mentioned this club.

To be fair, GEM said the negative publicity was surrounding the sponsor, not the club

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » December 11, 2018, 9:41 am

I don't think it matters much as long as they stump up the cash. We do enough harm to our own brand.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 11, 2018, 10:57 am

T_R wrote: ↑December 10, 2018, 11:37 am
dubby wrote:cfmeu were more concerning to our brand IMO

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I got abused at an airport once for wearing a raiders top with the CFMEU logo.

Kind of ironic, with my view on unions.

Yeah, it was weird, I used to cop that all the time with my CFMEU jerseys too. People would always come up to me, point at my jersey and go "CFMEU, hey?" I'd be like "Big deal, it's a club sponsor, all jerseys have them."

Nobody ever used to come up to me, point at my jersey and say "Canberra Milk, hey?"

Botman · Post by **Botman** » December 11, 2018, 10:57 am

Finchy wrote: ↑December 11, 2018, 9:38 am
Pigman wrote: ↑December 10, 2018, 7:50 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 8, 2018, 1:17 pm
edwahu wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:55 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑December 7, 2018, 7:15 pm We sure can pick them.

CFO of Huawei arrested in Canada and facing charges in the US for violating sanctions against Iran.
You mean the second largest manufacturer of phones in the world with 100bn in revenues. Seems like a decent sponsor to me.
That's clearly not what I meant. I was merely pointing out that there is now a great deal of negative publicity surrounding the club's major sponsor.
No one is buying that.
You still need to go and pick the ball out the net regarding the Wagga game... then you can come back and do some more picking of the net here.

I've read half a dozen articles about this and not one of them has even mentioned this club.
To be fair, GEM said the negative publicity was surrounding the sponsor, not the club

The inference though, is that it’s a poor reflection on the club to have its sponsor suffering through negative publicity

Schifty · Post by **Schifty** » December 11, 2018, 6:13 pm

T_R wrote: ↑December 10, 2018, 11:37 am
dubby wrote:cfmeu were more concerning to our brand IMO

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I got abused at an airport once for wearing a raiders top with the CFMEU logo.

Kind of ironic, with my view on unions.

To be fair you regularly get abused at airports regardless of what you're wearing.

Sterlk · Post by **Sterlk** » December 11, 2018, 9:37 pm

Why is it that the Raiders always have major sponsors that have links to politics and political interests? I know Canberra is the seat of government and all that, but the politicians are all here representing their own areas of the country - nary a Raiders supporter among them, if any.

You've got Huawei, who're in a fight with the government to be allowed into nation-building projects. The Tradies and CFMEU, a union and a club with union links. Fone Zone have been - and still are, under their new name - the major retailer of Telstra, who were of course previously a government entity. OzEmail had Malcolm Turnbull as its chair, who of course later became Prime Minister.

Yes, some of those links are pretty tenuous, but they're all only one very obvious hop away. Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, easy mode.

You have to go all the way back to Canberra Milk in '95 to get to a sponsor I can't link easily to politics and government off the top of my head.

Post by **T_R** » December 12, 2018, 6:35 am

Schifty wrote: ↑December 11, 2018, 6:13 pm
T_R wrote: ↑December 10, 2018, 11:37 am
dubby wrote:cfmeu were more concerning to our brand IMO

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I got abused at an airport once for wearing a raiders top with the CFMEU logo.

Kind of ironic, with my view on unions.
To be fair you regularly get abused at airports regardless of what you're wearing.

And not just airports, my friend.

gerg · Post by **gerg** » December 12, 2018, 7:13 am

Sterlk wrote:Why is it that the Raiders always have major sponsors that have links to politics and political interests? I know Canberra is the seat of government and all that, but the politicians are all here representing their own areas of the country - nary a Raiders supporter among them, if any.

You've got Huawei, who're in a fight with the government to be allowed into nation-building projects. The Tradies and CFMEU, a union and a club with union links. Fone Zone have been - and still are, under their new name - the major retailer of Telstra, who were of course previously a government entity. OzEmail had Malcolm Turnbull as its chair, who of course later became Prime Minister.

Yes, some of those links are pretty tenuous, but they're all only one very obvious hop away. Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, easy mode.

You have to go all the way back to Canberra Milk in '95 to get to a sponsor I can't link easily to politics and government off the top of my head.

Who is on the board?

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Sterlk · Post by **Sterlk** » December 12, 2018, 8:52 pm

gergreg wrote: ↑December 12, 2018, 7:13 amWho is on the board?

A bunch of dairy and food business execs. A couple of them have worked for/advised government before, but more in a contracting/public service sense - nowhere near close to having the PM on your board.

https://ccfa.com.au/management-our-people

Post by **-GD-** » January 29, 2019, 8:20 am

China's Huawei Technologies accused of conspiring to steal trade secrets

The United States Justice Department has unsealed two indictments against China's Huawei Technologies, several of its subsidiaries and its chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou.

The cases accuse the company of everything from bank and wire fraud to obstructing justice and conspiring to steal trade secrets from T-Mobile US Inc.

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-29/ ... s/10757594

Post by **greeneyed** » January 31, 2019, 6:30 am

Canberra Raiders stick by Huawei despite US charges

The Canberra Raiders are keen to sign on for another major sponsorship deal with embattled Chinese tech giant Huawei, despite the serious accusations made against the company in the United States.

"We would love to keep them on board [beyond the current deal that runs to end 2019]. They're our longest serving major sponsor, been a fantastic partner and we would love to keep them. But we haven't sat down with them, we will get up and see them once the season kicks off," CEO Don Furner said.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/nation ... 50uky.html

Audio: Huawei or the highway? Huawei Australia's Director of Corporate Affairs, Jeremy Mitchell, joins Tim Shaw on 2CC to refute criticisms of the company's operations in Australia: http://2cc.net.au/podcasts/11968-huawei ... itics.html

Roger Kenworthy · Post by **Roger Kenworthy** » January 31, 2019, 7:00 am

"Big companies, same as the Raiders, we go through times of negative publicity and big companies can too. But we'll leave that to them, that's their core business. We're just very proud of the partnership we have with them and and we definitely aim to maintain that."

Lol. I think Don may be slightly underestimating the seriousness of the charges compared to any negative publicity the Raiders have had.

Can Huawei assist us in stealing opposition gameplans? Although I get the feeling Sticky would be too stubborn to use them anyway.

FROG · Post by **FROG** » January 31, 2019, 7:15 am

Beggars can't be choosers.. let's face it the club is run like a second rate organisation (no accountability blah blah blah) we've struck gold with this partnership and should hang onto them as long as possible

Beejay · Post by **Beejay** » January 31, 2019, 11:26 am

Not many things I give credit to Don Furner for lately, but I wholeheartedly agree with him that China enjoys indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea and Islands based on historical facts and International law.

FuiFui BradBrad · Post by **FuiFui BradBrad** » January 31, 2019, 3:37 pm

Of course the club would stand by their sponsor. Donny be all

Post by **greeneyed** » January 31, 2019, 7:03 pm

Australian football team proud of Huawei sponsorship: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/a ... d28e7f67bb