Raiders express interest in Shaun Johnson, he signs with Sharks

[kiwi raider]

Anyone who wouldn't release Rapana to sign Shaun Johnson has rocks in their head IMO.
No one in our club could get that deal done however, when it's this competitive for his signature.

If Rapana wasn't a favourite of mine I'd probably agree. But while Johnson is an upgrade on our halves he's still not in the elite 5 or 6 in the competition. He's only made the finals in a couple of seasons with quite talented squads around him.

yea I think Pigman also said it, signing Johnson is no silver bullet, as we've seen from his time at the Warriors he won't win you a comp playing behind a forward pack that doesn't create space for him, put him behind a dominant pack and you are right in the hunt though imo, for example Johnson instead of Austin behind our 2015/16 pack would be a massive shot at a premiership imo

[Northern Raider]

Are we offloading rapana to put SJ on the wing?

Johnson and Hingano on the flanks would be awesome.

[Dusty]

Are we offloading rapana to put SJ on the wing?

Yes, and Hingano will get his shot at 7


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[dubby]

I think it's unlikely. Probably just more speculation

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Its a perfect time to fan rumours. Make up anything and it will gain legs.

Yep. Anyone will make up anything ....eventually get one right.
Lurker, anyone?

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[edwahu]

Rapana is off contract and missing half his last contracted season, I don't think that rumour has legs.

He will go Sharks and end up staying there. There's probably no longer deal yet because of the cap stuff.

[RTW]

I'm hearing raiders would release Rapana to Warriors to sign Johnson.


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Calling BS on this.
Why would the Warriors want Rapana they already have the best back 3 in the comp. it would be an unnecessary upgrade.

Except for the fact they certainly dont have the best back 3 in the comp..

Name a better back three based off 2018 form?


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[dubby]

I'm hearing raiders would release Rapana to Warriors to sign Johnson.


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I'm hearing that you're hearing wrong.

Haha. Probably. I can't even find the tomatoes in the fridge.

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[T_R]

I'm hearing raiders would release Rapana to Warriors to sign Johnson.


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I'm hearing that you're hearing wrong.

Haha. Probably. I can't even find the tomatoes in the fridge.

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Behind the lettuce, mate.

[benda]

Im not convinced we need Johnson. He isnt a player that will win you a premiership. Someone that is more consistent (like a Cronk) will.

We def need a good solid half to partner with Sezer if we are serious about 2019 and beyond.

Williams just doesnt cut it imo, he is a back-up.

[edwahu]

Signing a marquee like Johnson is so important for the club, whether it pays off on the field or not.

[benda]

Signing a marquee like Johnson is so important for the club, whether it pays off on the field or not.

why?

[pacman]

Can we give them Jack?

[edwahu]

Signing a marquee like Johnson is so important for the club, whether it pays off on the field or not.

why?

Because we have been out of the player market for top tier talent for 30 years and now we are frozen out for even your dead average normal NRL first grade tier players. We haven't signed a regular NRL starter for 3 years which is surely some kind of record!

You can't win comps without been competitive in the player market and we are the weakest team in thr market. Signing an in demand top level talent like Johnson goes a long way to fixing things.

[Brew]

Signing a marquee like Johnson is so important for the club, whether it pays off on the field or not.

why?

Isn't it that obvious? We have not signed anyone of note for 2 decades, more even. When was the last Elite player we signed? I don't rate Johnson, when he is on he is great but he is far too inconsistent, but put aside that part he is considered an Elite player in the NRL.

Look we won't get him, but we really need to buck the trend, and I don't really care if we do something stupid like offer him 1.5 Million a year, more even, just to say to the NRL we can sign an elite player. If it pays off then great, if not well at least it got the fan base excited and know that we can get an elite player if we want to.

[Johno]

Sharks under heavy scrutiny for salary cap breaches and they are signing Shaun Johnson?

And the 2016 premiership year is all ok?

This game is taxing more and more.I think if he goes to Sharks and the Roosters next year it will drive many away once and for all.

Is it just the Roosters and Broncos that are compliant ?

[dubby]

We signed Orford, remember.

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[Coastalraider]

We signed Orford, remember.

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From the super league right??

[-PJ-]

Can we give them Jack?

No..3/4 length pants are banned in Auckland.

[Brew]

We signed Orford, remember.

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Unfortunately we signed him at like 34 not at Johnson’s age. Johnson could still have good years ahead of him.
Orford was also playing in the UK and was coming off a shoulder injury as well. Hardly elite at the time. Probably past it when we got him.


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[dubby]

I was referring to the post that we hadn't signed anyone in 30 years. I was exaggerating to make a point,BrewstA

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[Northern Raider]

Signing a marquee like Johnson is so important for the club, whether it pays off on the field or not.

why?

Because we have been out of the player market for top tier talent for 30 years and now we are frozen out for even your dead average normal NRL first grade tier players. We haven't signed a regular NRL starter for 3 years which is surely some kind of record!

You can't win comps without been competitive in the player market and we are the weakest team in thr market. Signing an in demand top level talent like Johnson goes a long way to fixing things.

This is disturbingly true. I think our last regular 1st grade player we signed was Paulo. He's now gone again.

[dubby]

BJ


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[Coastalraider]

BJ


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BJ is the epitome of a Warriors player.

[Lui_Bon]

I don't really have any hope but all the AAP reports etc are self-reinforcing. I'll wait for the actual announcement.

[LP Raider]

If this spells the end of JezTez then its a big win.

I'm banking on the pommy Bateman to make a big difference next year, this guy know's how to get it done.

[edwahu]

BJ


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BJ signed in 2015. Unless you mean we may release him to get Johnson.

[sprintman]

I strongly recommend those thinking SJ would be good here, need to read the SJ thread on the Warriors forum. Serious training issues, ego, and aloofness etc don’t read well.

[BJ]

SJ and Dugan. Match made in heaven.

[Beejay]

That's what they all say when they lose someone.

Johnson is world class. Have a look at what the Warriors have given him over the years, in the way of Coaches and teams. I mean really, does anyone think the Warriors failures over the years are the fault of him?
Tony Iro
Matt Elliott
Andrew McFadden
and now Stephen Kearney

The **** awful forward packs and defence!

Johnson will win a comp somewhere and the Warriors won't, its that simple.

[Sid]

Yeah, if Cronk had served out his career at Gold Coast Titans they still wouldn't have premierships. Doesn't stop him from being one of the games elite players.

Put Johnson at the Roosters and he's more chance of winning a comp there during that contract period than all of the time he's had at the Warriors.

[Grün Maschine]

Yeah, if Cronk had served out his career at Gold Coast Titans they still wouldn't have premierships. Doesn't stop him from being one of the games elite players.

Put Johnson at the Roosters and he's more chance of winning a comp there during that contract period than all of the time he's had at the Warriors.

Put the roosters accountants anywhere else and you win comps?

[Beejay]

Yeah, if Cronk had served out his career at Gold Coast Titans they still wouldn't have premierships. Doesn't stop him from being one of the games elite players.

Put Johnson at the Roosters and he's more chance of winning a comp there during that contract period than all of the time he's had at the Warriors.

Put Johnathan Thurston at a crap club like the Cowboys and he still wouldn't win a premiership. He needs to be at one of the top clubs.

[The Nickman]

Yeah, if Cronk had served out his career at Gold Coast Titans they still wouldn't have premierships. Doesn't stop him from being one of the games elite players.

Put Johnson at the Roosters and he's more chance of winning a comp there during that contract period than all of the time he's had at the Warriors.

I think if Cooper Cronk plays out his career at the Gold Coast Titans and under the coaches at the time at the Titans he isn't NEAR the player he is today, I'd think he'd just be another average half with potential.

What madness is this?? The Storm and most notably Craig Bellamy made him who he is today, nothing else.

[The Nickman]

That's what they all say when they lose someone.

Johnson is world class. Have a look at what the Warriors have given him over the years, in the way of Coaches and teams. I mean really, does anyone think the Warriors failures over the years are the fault of him?
Tony Iro
Matt Elliott
Andrew McFadden
and now Stephen Kearney

The **** awful forward packs and defence!

Johnson will win a comp somewhere and the Warriors won't, its that simple.

Luckily we all want him to go to a Ricky Stuart coached side where he won't even have to worry about consistency, game plans, structures, discipline or playing finals football then!

[Coastalraider]

That's what they all say when they lose someone.

Johnson is world class. Have a look at what the Warriors have given him over the years, in the way of Coaches and teams. I mean really, does anyone think the Warriors failures over the years are the fault of him?
Tony Iro
Matt Elliott
Andrew McFadden
and now Stephen Kearney

The **** awful forward packs and defence!

Johnson will win a comp somewhere and the Warriors won't, its that simple.

Luckily we all want him to go to a Ricky Stuart coached side where he won't even have to worry about consistency, game plans, structures, discipline or playing finals football then!

It really is the perfect destination for a lazy player with natural talent - you get paid above market value, have very little accountability placed upon you, there is a list of excuses a mile long that we have been forming for 20 years, you get an extra 4 weeks of holiday in October nearly every year - sign me up!