2018 Rd 23 V Roosters: Teams and Previews *Teams p1*

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Who will win?

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Raiders 1-12
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Timbo wrote: August 16, 2018, 8:56 am When Piggy Riddell is the voice of reason you know you're in trouble.
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julian87 wrote: August 16, 2018, 10:04 am Wonder if Rapana feels insulted he hasn’t been given the 1 jersey after some of the absolute disasters we’ve seen there over the past 6 weeks.
His contribution from wing is probably too valuable at the moment. He still might get a run there though.
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Canberra Raiders players defend coach Ricky Stuart

Canberra players have backed coach Ricky Stuart, saying there is nothing more he could have done this season.

"We were very unlucky with injuries and suspensions, (Stuart) did the best he could and the players he brought in were the right players," Rapana said. "We have belief in every player that comes in here and I know Ricky does too, that's why he plays them."

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Jordan Rapana backs Nick Cotric to fire again on the Canberra Raiders wing

Canberra winger Jordan Rapana is backing fellow flyer Nick Cotric to once again flourish in the final three weeks of the season after being moved back to the flank.

"Around Origin time he was on the verge of playing for the Blues on the wing and we know what type of player Nick is when he's on the wing for us," Rapana said. "I think it will give him a bit of confidence this week and he's got a big job with Fergo marking up him who's been a good metre-eater for them."

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'Unacceptable': Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart opens up about finals miss

Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart says this year has been the most frustrating period of his career, conceding missing the finals is unacceptable after failing to secure a top-eight spot.

"As the head coach and the guy who has to be accountable for it all, it's probably the most frustrating period of coaching I've ever been involved in," Stuart said. "The way we've been getting beaten is different to being beaten by three, four or five tries and you know you're not in the game.

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Roger Kenworthy wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:25 am
InFernos_Raiders wrote: August 16, 2018, 2:02 am
PerthRaider86 wrote: August 15, 2018, 5:35 pm I just hope this is the toweling we need to get the ball rolling on Ricky's departure as head coach


We need a 68-10 (or similar) scoreline..... need to lose by at least 30+
This Club won’t sack their golden boy Stuart even if we lose the last 3 games by 100,
We are stuck with him til 2020 and that’s when most of the Clubs top players contracts are up and why would any player want to stay. This team has the talent to win the comp but are coached by an idiot.
:roflmao

I'm no Stuart fan but you can't pin the clubs on field struggles ENTIRELY on him.
After 5 years and getting player she wants and making the Finals once in those 5 years isn’t good enough. If the players act up don’t play well defend poorly it all comes down to attitude and that also comes from the club and coaching staff. The Raiders Club needs Don Furner and Co to go we need a clean out the club is still living in the 1990s. Tell me why is Stuart void from any coaching talk it’s like he is protected and his results are far worse then those coaching in the nrl now that have been sacked. Also Stuart in his past 10 years of coaching has made the Finals only once and that was in 2016. Not good enough Stuart can’t take this team to next level.

When he coaching contract is up in 2020 along with a lot of our top players count on it they will jump ship Cotric, Tapine etc they will all say enough is enough........
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greeneyed wrote: August 16, 2018, 1:23 pm Canberra Raiders players defend coach Ricky Stuart

Canberra players have backed coach Ricky Stuart, saying there is nothing more he could have done this season.

"We were very unlucky with injuries and suspensions, (Stuart) did the best he could and the players he brought in were the right players," Rapana said. "We have belief in every player that comes in here and I know Ricky does too, that's why he plays them."

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What utter dribble Rapana utter dribble stop protecting Stuart
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Reading the stuart article gives me even less faith in his ability than before.
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greeneyed wrote:Canberra Raiders players defend coach Ricky Stuart

Canberra players have backed coach Ricky Stuart, saying there is nothing more he could have done this season.

"We were very unlucky with injuries and suspensions, (Stuart) did the best he could and the players he brought in were the right players," Rapana said. "We have belief in every player that comes in here and I know Ricky does too, that's why he plays them."

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Do they actually believe that? Unlucky?
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greeneyed wrote: August 16, 2018, 1:23 pm Canberra Raiders players defend coach Ricky Stuart

Canberra players have backed coach Ricky Stuart, saying there is nothing more he could have done this season.

"We were very unlucky with injuries and suspensions, (Stuart) did the best he could and the players he brought in were the right players," Rapana said. "We have belief in every player that comes in here and I know Ricky does too, that's why he plays them."

Read more: https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/08/16/10/ ... cky-stuart
JordyRaps..love ya to death mate..

Please don't dribble !!!

The players he brought in were the right players...TO SIT ON THE BENCH AND CATCH COLD.
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greeneyed wrote: August 16, 2018, 1:34 pm 'Unacceptable': Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart opens up about finals miss

Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart says this year has been the most frustrating period of his career, conceding missing the finals is unacceptable after failing to secure a top-eight spot.

"As the head coach and the guy who has to be accountable for it all, it's probably the most frustrating period of coaching I've ever been involved in," Stuart said. "The way we've been getting beaten is different to being beaten by three, four or five tries and you know you're not in the game.

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I'm loving these puff pieces.

Hey Rick, put them all through a really really really really tough pre-season. Something so damn tough we can create a " toughest pre-season ever" thread and all get real excited about our 2019 chances..
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to an extent yes injuries cruelled our season, Hodgson missing the first 15 games is huge because our 6 and 7 failed to cover the loss and the unexplained reason prevented using Garvey with Havili.
Losing Oldfield on the back of Croker and Wighton really did screw us due to the depth in our backs but the damage was long ago done with the 0-4 start and the failure to make amends through a soft part of the draw.

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bonehead wrote: August 16, 2018, 3:51 pm to an extent yes injuries cruelled our season, Hodgson missing the first 15 games is huge because our 6 and 7 failed to cover the loss and the unexplained reason prevented using Garvey with Havili.
Losing Oldfield on the back of Croker and Wighton really did screw us due to the depth in our backs but the damage was long ago done with the 0-4 start and the failure to make amends through a soft part of the draw.

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The "unacceptable" comment would have sounded better coming from a board member or even Don.
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Canberra Raiders underachieve but hamstring by injury

Canberra Raiders prop Luke Bateman says they've underachieved in missing out on the NRL finals, but admits injuries and suspensions have taken their toll.

"We're pretty confident that we've got a good squad here and we can play good enough footy to be in the top eight so it's definitely a massive disappointment and underachievement in terms of where we see ourselves at," Luke Bateman said.

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greeneyed wrote:Canberra Raiders underachieve but hamstring by injury

Canberra Raiders prop Luke Bateman says they've underachieved in missing out on the NRL finals, but admits injuries and suspensions have taken their toll.

"We're pretty confident that we've got a good squad here and we can play good enough footy to be in the top eight so it's definitely a massive disappointment and underachievement in terms of where we see ourselves at," Luke Bateman said.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/ ... 4zxtg.html
Luke's doing the PR rounds now?
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-PJ- wrote: August 16, 2018, 4:09 pm
bonehead wrote: August 16, 2018, 3:51 pm to an extent yes injuries cruelled our season, Hodgson missing the first 15 games is huge because our 6 and 7 failed to cover the loss and the unexplained reason prevented using Garvey with Havili.
Losing Oldfield on the back of Croker and Wighton really did screw us due to the depth in our backs but the damage was long ago done with the 0-4 start and the failure to make amends through a soft part of the draw.

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The "unacceptable" comment would have sounded better coming from a board member or even Don.
The injury list this year is not our problem. It’s our lack of accountability to control those things which we can control. We have spent years making excuses - 2017, everyone figured us out. 2018, injuries. The last decade - the refs hate us, the nrl hate us, no one wants to live in Canberra, we can’t recruit players... blah blah blah.

Look at the panthers this year as an example. So far we are 23 rounds I to the season.
Their starting hooker played 9 games and has retired due to injury. Their starting fullback in Edwards has only been on the field for 8 games. Mansour has only managed 10, DWZ 15. RCG, 16 from 23. Cleary had a long layoff and has only started 50% of the games this season. Tyrone May has been busted, and only had 5 games. Waqa Blake has only played 11.

They are top 5 even with an injury list that is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than ours.

And that was seen as underachieving, so they sacked their coach.

Im sick of hearing Ricky make up excuses instead of owning the situation. This is HIS squad, trained and motivated by him. The training straff work under his control. Th salary cap is managed by him.

And we have underachieved massively for a second season in a row, and show no indication of doing anything other than saying - we have a good group of guys, we love playing together, when we get the rub of the green, no bad ref calls, no injuries, we can win matches.

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reptar wrote: August 16, 2018, 6:43 pm
greeneyed wrote:Canberra Raiders underachieve but hamstring by injury

Canberra Raiders prop Luke Bateman says they've underachieved in missing out on the NRL finals, but admits injuries and suspensions have taken their toll.

"We're pretty confident that we've got a good squad here and we can play good enough footy to be in the top eight so it's definitely a massive disappointment and underachievement in terms of where we see ourselves at," Luke Bateman said.

Read more: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/ ... 4zxtg.html
Luke's doing the PR rounds now?
I feel bad for them. It's like watching some idiot politician trying to squeeze all their talking points into an answer to a question nobody asked.
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Didn't the cowboys play the gf without Thurston, scott etc.....lame as usual :rant
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Nick Cotric flies back to the Canberra Raiders wing

Nick Cotric was flying on the wing, to the point where he almost flew into the NSW State of Origin team. His Canberra Raiders teammates expect him to return there from fullback a better player as he goes head to head against Sydney Roosters "metre eater" Blake Ferguson.

"I think it will give him a bit of confidence this week. He's got a big task with Fergo, marking up on Fergo, who's been a metre eater for them and I think it will be a good challenge for him and one that he can do a job," Jordan Rapana said.

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Does this mean Austin is on the other side of the field from Ferguson?
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InFernos_Raiders wrote: August 16, 2018, 2:02 am
PerthRaider86 wrote: August 15, 2018, 5:35 pm I just hope this is the toweling we need to get the ball rolling on Ricky's departure as head coach


We need a 68-10 (or similar) scoreline..... need to lose by at least 30+
This Club won’t sack their golden boy Stuart even if we lose the last 3 games by 100,
We are stuck with him til 2020 and that’s when most of the Clubs top players contracts are up and why would any player want to stay. This team has the talent to win the comp but are coached by an idiot.
Agreed. The real kicker is that if the Board suddenly starts taking an interest in the football dept in 2020 and realise they have a dud leading it and decide not to renew Stuart it will be way too late. The other clubs would have picked the eyes out of the roster leaving the new coach in 2021 to start another re-building program all over again.

We need a new coach for 2019 while there is still a cadre of talent in the club that a competent incoming coach can weld into a competitive force. If the Board doesn't step up now the drought will go on for at least another decade.
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How do other teams get more from their rosters ? Why are other teams coached within an inch of a play ? We throw it to a prop on the 5th... we ad lib and score trys yep that's good. Captain croker with his arm flapping is actually a toxic example. Play the whistle, stop the try. Want to win at all costs. **** what the ref says. Play hard. You are raiders !! Victim mentality has made our team lose. Yep Ricky can use it to motivate, but it has backfired. In my opinion....
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So all the injuries and suspensions are responsible for the Raiders being the No.1 Try Scoring side in the NRL up to this point in 2018..... Why wouldn't it be? It is where the focus of an attack minded coach would be. But when we don't have the ball, we are as solid as a tissue in a hot shower. We are constantly run down after building leads - imo this is because we are 'Raiders fit' not NRL fit. Physically and between the ears we are not up to the task as a team.

I am bemused that even the players are buying into this 'injury and suspension' are to blame baloney. Why is the attacking record so good if there is even a scintilla of truth in that? They say the coach is doing his best. Sadly I think they are right. He is doing his best and it has produced one finals appearance in 5 years. Any business which spends millions of dollars producing failure most years should be questioning where the focus of those leading the operation is at. It is obviously not in the correct place over both the short and long term.

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InFernos_Raiders wrote: August 16, 2018, 1:43 pm
Roger Kenworthy wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:25 am
InFernos_Raiders wrote: August 16, 2018, 2:02 am
PerthRaider86 wrote: August 15, 2018, 5:35 pm I just hope this is the toweling we need to get the ball rolling on Ricky's departure as head coach


We need a 68-10 (or similar) scoreline..... need to lose by at least 30+
This Club won’t sack their golden boy Stuart even if we lose the last 3 games by 100,
We are stuck with him til 2020 and that’s when most of the Clubs top players contracts are up and why would any player want to stay. This team has the talent to win the comp but are coached by an idiot.
:roflmao

I'm no Stuart fan but you can't pin the clubs on field struggles ENTIRELY on him.
After 5 years and getting player she wants and making the Finals once in those 5 years isn’t good enough. If the players act up don’t play well defend poorly it all comes down to attitude and that also comes from the club and coaching staff. The Raiders Club needs Don Furner and Co to go we need a clean out the club is still living in the 1990s. Tell me why is Stuart void from any coaching talk it’s like he is protected and his results are far worse then those coaching in the nrl now that have been sacked. Also Stuart in his past 10 years of coaching has made the Finals only once and that was in 2016. Not good enough Stuart can’t take this team to next level.

When he coaching contract is up in 2020 along with a lot of our top players count on it they will jump ship Cotric, Tapine etc they will all say enough is enough........
Absolutely agree but I think we're a fair way off a Premiership no matter who was coaching us this season. Our halves would not get it done in September/October...
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reptar wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:43 pm Does this mean Austin is on the other side of the field from Ferguson?
Yep.
Austin, BJ and Rapa vs Matterson, Latrell, Tupou.

Sammy, Whitey, Cotric vs Cronk, Manu, Fergie.

Hmmm... might be 2nd guessing myself now. Pretty sure Sammy has been defending on the left.
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Matt wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:12 am
reptar wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:43 pm Does this mean Austin is on the other side of the field from Ferguson?
Yep.
Austin, BJ and Rapa vs Matterson, Latrell, Tupou.

Sammy, Whitey, Cotric vs Cronk, Manu, Fergie
So it's highly likely Austin will need to tackle Mitchell? This should be interesting.
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edwahu wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:14 am
Matt wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:12 am
reptar wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:43 pm Does this mean Austin is on the other side of the field from Ferguson?
Yep.
Austin, BJ and Rapa vs Matterson, Latrell, Tupou.

Sammy, Whitey, Cotric vs Cronk, Manu, Fergie
So it's highly likely Austin will need to tackle Mitchell? This should be interesting.
Yep. Im looking forward to it.... nooooooooooooooooot
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The question isn't whether he can tackle Mitchell, it's how many decisions Mitchell will force him to make.
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reptar wrote: August 17, 2018, 11:24 am The question isn't whether he can tackle Mitchell, it's how many decisions Mitchell will force him to make.
The only two decisions he will have to make are a) whether to rush up out of the line to completely miss him; or b) quickly backpedalling towards his own goal line and being wrong footed. Should be a great contest. :D
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Matt wrote:
edwahu wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:14 am
Matt wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:12 am
reptar wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:43 pm Does this mean Austin is on the other side of the field from Ferguson?
Yep.
Austin, BJ and Rapa vs Matterson, Latrell, Tupou.

Sammy, Whitey, Cotric vs Cronk, Manu, Fergie
So it's highly likely Austin will need to tackle Mitchell? This should be interesting.
Yep. Im looking forward to it.... nooooooooooooooooot

I just put Latrell in my fantasy league team for the semi final because he’s marking up on Austin.


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VIDEO: Luke Bateman excited for Emre Guler Canberra Raiders debut

Luke Bateman is excited to see young forward Emre Guler make his debut ahead of Sunday's clash against the Roosters at GIO Stadium. The former Miles Devils junior has claimed that Guler displays great footwork for a Prop.

Video: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/08 ... ler-debut/

Gallery: Raiders get set for Roosters: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/08 ... -roosters/

Raiders a rising force in women's NRL ranks: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/08 ... nrl-ranks/

Forever Green: Raiders Coach surprises former teammate: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/08 ... -teammate/
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Jason wrote: August 17, 2018, 2:04 pm
Matt wrote:
edwahu wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:14 am
Matt wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:12 am
reptar wrote: August 16, 2018, 7:43 pm Does this mean Austin is on the other side of the field from Ferguson?
Yep.
Austin, BJ and Rapa vs Matterson, Latrell, Tupou.

Sammy, Whitey, Cotric vs Cronk, Manu, Fergie
So it's highly likely Austin will need to tackle Mitchell? This should be interesting.
Yep. Im looking forward to it.... nooooooooooooooooot

I just put Latrell in my fantasy league team for the semi final because he’s marking up on Austin.


Nicky Boi!!!!
good fantasy move. probably very late to the Latrell express though
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What is it with the Luke bateman pieces this week?
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Matt wrote:
Jason wrote: August 17, 2018, 2:04 pm
Matt wrote:
edwahu wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:14 am
Matt wrote: August 17, 2018, 10:12 am Yep.
Austin, BJ and Rapa vs Matterson, Latrell, Tupou.

Sammy, Whitey, Cotric vs Cronk, Manu, Fergie
So it's highly likely Austin will need to tackle Mitchell? This should be interesting.
Yep. Im looking forward to it.... nooooooooooooooooot

I just put Latrell in my fantasy league team for the semi final because he’s marking up on Austin.


Nicky Boi!!!!
good fantasy move. probably very late to the Latrell express though
Yep I’m loading up on the $1.85 try anytime for Latrell.
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The Green Hornet wrote: August 17, 2018, 4:57 pm What is it with the Luke bateman pieces this week?
Last weeks mouth piece is at KFC.
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#emptythetank :shock:
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