Re: 2018 Rd 22 V Tigers: Game Day
Posted: August 12, 2018, 9:00 pm
I can’t disagree with too much Ricky said.
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It's pretty much the same thing these days.LastRaider wrote: ↑August 12, 2018, 8:59 pmWell no that wasn’t it, I said he doesn’t want to play prop. Lock is fine.Northern Raider wrote:Well you had Paps leaving because we wanted him to play middle forward so I'm confident Cotric stays. Can't see the club giving him an early release.LastRaider wrote: ↑August 12, 2018, 6:35 pm Who’s watched the presser? Poor Cotric, Stuart indirectly puts the blame on the defensive errors to Cotric’s inexperience. **** unbelievable. I’m calling it now, Cotric will leave the club by the end of next year.
Also this love for Wighton by Stuart has got to stop... seriously! Stuart, Wighton has let the you, us and the team down for his behaviour. Don’t use him as an excuse for poor performance of the team.
Just leave already, you self serving arrogant EDIT!
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Anyway if much of the same happens next year with Stuart still at the helm, there will be walk outs and clubs will come sniffing around our top talent. Player agents are not stupid either, in Cotric’s case his value is rising each week and players of his Calibre are already being paid a lot more then him like Kalyan Ponga, Payne Haas, Jamayne Issako and Viliame Kikau. It’s natural that his agent would go looking for a better deal.
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Nothing is ever Stuart’s fault, he blames everything and everyone except himself.
C'mon mate. Our run in 2016 wasn't all down to luck. Ricky and the side deserve credit for a great season, but that was two years ago and he and the team deserve all the criticism for 2017 and 2018 that they are now receiving.InFernos_Raiders wrote: ↑August 12, 2018, 10:22 pmNothing is ever Stuart’s fault, he blames everything and everyone except himself.
Stuart isn’t a top 8 NRL coach he simply can not turn this team around.
If 1 Finals appearance in 5 years is good then that’ll do me.....we got lucky at back end of 2016 with many players in form beyond that Raiders are ****, the mentality of a child.
When you think of Storm you think of men when you think of Raiders you think of little boys, kiddies.
Don Furner and Co including Stuart should go the Club needs new direction. The Club is stuck in the 1990s.
Likewise.Bay53 wrote:I can’t disagree with too much Ricky said.
In general I agree Bay53. When he called out the 10 minute period with BJ in the bin he was right. The Tigers put 16 points on us in that 10 minute period. Outside of that 10 minute period he could argue that the score was 20-6 in our favour. What he didn't say was that it was Joey's continued ill-discipline which is costing the team. The brain explosions in defence continue to happen with him. Imo it was unnecessary for BJ to put himself in that position as well. It has not changed much since he joined the club. I still remember the trips to the judiciary for two shoulder charges in different matches in his first season with us. He's just moved on to other areas of ill-discipline.
....except he’s on contract till end of 2020LastRaider wrote: ↑August 12, 2018, 8:59 pmWell no that wasn’t it, I said he doesn’t want to play prop. Lock is fine.Northern Raider wrote:Well you had Paps leaving because we wanted him to play middle forward so I'm confident Cotric stays. Can't see the club giving him an early release.LastRaider wrote: ↑August 12, 2018, 6:35 pm Who’s watched the presser? Poor Cotric, Stuart indirectly puts the blame on the defensive errors to Cotric’s inexperience. **** unbelievable. I’m calling it now, Cotric will leave the club by the end of next year.
Also this love for Wighton by Stuart has got to stop... seriously! Stuart, Wighton has let the you, us and the team down for his behaviour. Don’t use him as an excuse for poor performance of the team.
Just leave already, you self serving arrogant EDIT!
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Anyway if much of the same happens next year with Stuart still at the helm, there will be walk outs and clubs will come sniffing around our top talent. Player agents are not stupid either, in Cotric’s case his value is rising each week and players of his Calibre are already being paid a lot more then him like Kalyan Ponga, Payne Haas, Jamayne Issako and Viliame Kikau. It’s natural that his agent would go looking for a better deal.
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To be fair to BJ, if Tapine hadn't made another of his ill disciplined tackles (he was penalised twice in the match for head-highs) BJ wouldn't have been caught out and sent off. The game was effectively lost while he was off. Tapine's lazy tackling technique and ill discipline has cost us a number of games over the years yet along with Austin and BJ they never learn or are coached to fix it.RedRaider wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 6:06 amIn general I agree Bay53. When he called out the 10 minute period with BJ in the bin he was right. The Tigers put 16 points on us in that 10 minute period. Outside of that 10 minute period he could argue that the score was 20-6 in our favour. What he didn't say was that it was Joey's continued ill-discipline which is costing the team. The brain explosions in defence continue to happen with him. Imo it was unnecessary for BJ to put himself in that position as well. It has not changed much since he joined the club. I still remember the trips to the judiciary for two shoulder charges in different matches in his first season with us. He's just moved on to other areas of ill-discipline.
I thought the comments he made about Nic Cotric were ok in context. He is a young fullback. He is learning. He does need to talk as a fullback to the defensive line. He covered a lot of kms in the game and I thought he looked tanked at one point. From my opinion, I hope he has learned not to take dummies anymore. Twice in two weeks he has taken them and led to opposition tries. Just take the man with the ball NC. But to say Jack is our Billy Slater ... well he wears the No1 jersey I suppose.
Further on ill-discipline, Austin continues to astound. What was he thinking when he turned the Tigers player upside down into a slam position. I know he didn't know the rules about deliberate knock on from a penalty tap as he performed against Manly, but to take a player beyond the horizontal like that was as stupid as it gets. His ill-discipline when we were looking to consolidate our fight back was a rightful penalty to the Tigers and put them in better field position and out of harms way with the ball for another set. The selfish chip and chase play which again surrendered the ball to the Tigers was another in a season full of selfish moments and again it happened when we needed to apply pressure late in the match not meekly surrender possession. Only 3 more weeks with him in green. Hallelujah.
Three Top 8 sides to still play in Season 2018. We know how that has gone this year.
What?? What for?cat wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 12:57 pm Hodgo charged by match review....
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"I'm not making excuses but here are some excuses" he says...
Dangerous throw apparentlyT_R wrote:What?? What for?cat wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 12:57 pm Hodgo charged by match review....
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These reviews are biased.-TW- wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 1:10 pmDangerous throw apparentlyT_R wrote:What?? What for?cat wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 12:57 pm Hodgo charged by match review....
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Yes, lolo got suspended.Johno wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 3:06 pmThese reviews are biased.-TW- wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 1:10 pmDangerous throw apparentlyT_R wrote:What?? What for?cat wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 12:57 pm Hodgo charged by match review....
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Havent bothered looking but did Lolo get suspended?
Because sure asx **** Tapine does whenever anything near a shoulder.
You're better off giving away the 4 or 6 than getting yourself sent off for 10 mins which puts your team in a much bigger hole...yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
Exactly. Tell that to Jack Wighton - 2016 Preliminary Final loss by 2 but gave away more than that in his absence..BadnMean wrote:You're better off giving away the 4 or 6 than getting yourself sent off for 10 mins which puts your team in a much bigger hole...yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
No mate everything's BJ's fault you should know that by now. Fair dinkum I'm sick of him getting bagged. 1 thing Joey does is he busts his ass every week.yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
I'm a fan of BJ.Hazza wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 5:19 pmNo mate everything's BJ's fault you should know that by now. Fair dinkum I'm sick of him getting bagged. 1 thing Joey does is he busts his ass every week.yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
Sure he isn't overly smart at times and takes stupid low percentage options but he does a lot of good things too. Of course he receives zero credit for that. You take the good with the bad. People just wait for him to make an error and climb in to him. The way I see it, he isn't even close to the biggest problem in this team. I adore the man and make no apologies for it.
Same. If Boyd and Paulo ran with the intensity of BJ we'd be in the top 4.-PJ- wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 5:23 pmI'm a fan of BJ.Hazza wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 5:19 pmNo mate everything's BJ's fault you should know that by now. Fair dinkum I'm sick of him getting bagged. 1 thing Joey does is he busts his ass every week.yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
Sure he isn't overly smart at times and takes stupid low percentage options but he does a lot of good things too. Of course he receives zero credit for that. You take the good with the bad. People just wait for him to make an error and climb in to him. The way I see it, he isn't even close to the biggest problem in this team. I adore the man and make no apologies for it.
I thought he was lazy in not getting back on side. The West Tigers saw it and ran at him. He goes off to the bin and 16 points against the Raiders was the result. The game is not only about attack. If there was such a thing as an offensive side and a defensive side you'd want him in your offensive team for sure. But this is NRL not NFL.Hazza wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 5:19 pmNo mate everything's BJ's fault you should know that by now. Fair dinkum I'm sick of him getting bagged. 1 thing Joey does is he busts his ass every week.yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
Sure he isn't overly smart at times and takes stupid low percentage options but he does a lot of good things too. Of course he receives zero credit for that. You take the good with the bad. People just wait for him to make an error and climb in to him. The way I see it, he isn't even close to the biggest problem in this team. I adore the man and make no apologies for it.
Yep, happily move him on knowing we have Cotric and Wighton their to fill the positionCaptain Punish wrote:BJ is a liability. To quote a wise person of the likes the Raiders wish were coach; Paula Abdul "He takes 2 steps forward, he takes 3 steps back".
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I'm still a fan of BJ. His good stuff outweighs the bad stuff.LastRaider wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 7:20 pmYep, happily move him on knowing we have Cotric and Wighton their to fill the positionCaptain Punish wrote:BJ is a liability. To quote a wise person of the likes the Raiders wish were coach; Paula Abdul "He takes 2 steps forward, he takes 3 steps back".
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will then you may as will blame Cotric for loosing the ball putting everybody under pressure, 4-6 points better than the 16 which were scored while in sin bin simple as thatyeh raiders wrote: ↑August 12, 2018, 2:19 pm I blame Tapine, BJ either let’s him score or goes the bin.. simple as that
That's not fair. Wighton was binned for something others got away with all season long. Remember binnings weren't a dime a dozen that season. I remember at least three other occasions when players from other teams did almost exactly the same thing and weren't binned that season.Captain Punish wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 4:36 pmExactly. Tell that to Jack Wighton - 2016 Preliminary Final loss by 2 but gave away more than that in his absence..BadnMean wrote:You're better off giving away the 4 or 6 than getting yourself sent off for 10 mins which puts your team in a much bigger hole...yeh raiders wrote: ↑August 13, 2018, 10:08 am I agree. If BJ wasn’t there or retreated to the line, they would’ve either run at someone else who would’ve had to make an offside tackle or they would’ve scored anyway.
Everyone was caught by surprise when the quick tap was taken and It was unfortunate, and the number of players binned this year is around 80.
It was all kicked off by an amateur attempt at tackle from Tapine, so he gets my blame before BJ does.
I don't just blame Edrick for that loss, I blame EDIT Wighton equally.
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