2018 Rd 17 V Bulldogs: Game Day

[Green Taipan]

Can I request that we save our luck to win games in a season that counts?

Yes, it's very disappointing. The Brisbane game (and the other games where they meekly capitulated in the last few minutes) was where the heroics from Austin and the rest of the team were desperately needed. Raider's season now over with the Donkeys' win today! FGS, can the Board pls sack Ricky and find some one who can actually coach at the NRL level. This degree of ineptitude is embarrassing and not a good look for brand CBR or Huawei!

[GreenGuy]

Amazing comeback, great win against a side that were switched on and ready for a battle.

What stood out for me apart from the obvious was Havilli giving away a penalty on the first play of the second half which had us on the back foot for the majority of the rest of the game.

It was then Havilli's one on one strip that gave us an opportunity to win.

Poetic, and sums us, our mentality and the coaching up to a tee me thinks.

[woppadingo]

I have a theory. My theory is that the Raiders are actually far and away the best team in the comp who can score at will at any moment. But what they’ve realised is that they can become fabulously wealthy by setting up impossible scenarios and gambling on the outcomes...

It’s surely the only theory that fits the evidence this year!

Im sure a few punters have worked this out.

[RedRaider]

I seen it, but I don't believe it. Always happy to collect 2 competition points. It keeps our slim hopes alive for season 2018. But it was a last gasp win against the side running 3rd last in the comp and against a Club that has been neutered due to poor administration. Where was this effort last week when it would have counted more for our season?

Injury to Abbey and Boyd. Suspension likely for Tapine. Paulo playing like he didn't want to be there. If he moves any slower he will earn the nickname 'Sundial'. I'll have to watch the highlights but I had the impression Sezer was involved in each of the last 3 tries.

On to the Cowboys at home next week. A weakened and depleted side up against the two JT's. Season on the line. Go Raiders.

This is the first post i've read tonight. I have no idea how you could produce a summary of the last 3 tries, and mention Sezer but not Austin. Apologies if you've posted earlier and I missed it.

A single sentence with a caveat is a summary? ... ok. Of the final 3 tries, Sezer had no involvement in the Austin try. That was Hodgo to Austin who stepped through the Bulldogs for the try. The second last try, Sezer put Austin into a hole and he made good ground. From subsequent plays Sezer got the ball and gave the final pass to Tapine who crashed over for the try. On the last match winning try, Sezer gave the ball to Tapine who passed it on to BJ who crashed over to seal the win. So Sezer was involved in the last 2 tries of the final 6 minutes, not all three.

[RedRaider]

I agree with Sticky's description of the Raiders play. We were awful for most of the match and so were the Dogs. It was like park footy a lot of the time. It is little wonder both sides are also rans this season with defensive performances like that.

Having said that, all we could do was win to take the 2 competition points on offer. The side did that.

If Rapa should be available next week I would definitely put Cotric into Fullback in the absence of Jack and Abbey. Hopefully Papa comes through Origin unscathed. Injury to Boyd is the only thing that would save Paulo's selection imo. Lacklustre is the mildest word for Paulo's performance against the dogs.

[greeneyed]

By the numbers: Raiders v Bulldogs: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/07 ... -bulldogs/

Vote Now: Man of the Match Round 17: http://greenroomdigital.snapforms.com.a ... ek-round17

Gallery: Raiders silence Belmore crowd: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/07 ... ore-crowd/

Team song: Raiders v Bulldogs: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/07 ... -bulldogs/

Round 17 play of the week: Blake Austin: https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/07 ... ke-austin/

[zim]

How the hell is Junior Paulo on that Man of the Match list?

[greeneyed]

AUDIO: Canberra Raiders Blake Austin speaks about the win over the Bulldogs

Audio: https://soundcloud.com/abc_grandstand/s ... m=twitter‬

[greeneyed]

How the hell is Junior Paulo on that Man of the Match list?

Beats me.

[-TW-]

How the hell is Junior Paulo on that Man of the Match list?

Did he even play?

[raiderskater]

How the hell is Junior Paulo on that Man of the Match list?

The person making it must have been drunk. It's the only explanation.

I voted Croker. No doubt Austin had an impact on the game, but Croker kept us in the game before that happened.

[greeneyed]

Rothfield saying on NRL 360 saying he spoke to Ricky Stuart today about the behaviour of Joey Leilua after the winning try... and claims that Ricky Stuart opened the video session today with it and said he didn’t want to see something like that again. I’m glad, because it was unacceptable behaviour.

[dubby]

Rothfield saying on NRL 360 saying he spoke to Ricky Stuart today about the behaviour of Joey Leilua after the winning try... and claims that Ricky Stuart opened the video session today with it and said he didn’t want to see something like that again. I’m glad, because it was unacceptable behaviour.

Joey is a hot head and has incredibly poor self control. But the Morris boys contributed to that. As did their PNG backrower. They carved Joey up that night and let him know it.

Joey went over the top in his celebration, which is disappointing because he's been fairly good in controlling his emotions this year.


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[El_Capitano]

Rothfield saying on NRL 360 saying he spoke to Ricky Stuart today about the behaviour of Joey Leilua after the winning try... and claims that Ricky Stuart opened the video session today with it and said he didn’t want to see something like that again. I’m glad, because it was unacceptable behaviour.

Although I 100% agree with this. My wife and I laughed for like 2 minutes at that!


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[Chicka Chicka Chicka]

Rothfield saying on NRL 360 saying he spoke to Ricky Stuart today about the behaviour of Joey Leilua after the winning try... and claims that Ricky Stuart opened the video session today with it and said he didn’t want to see something like that again. I’m glad, because it was unacceptable behaviour.

Good work Stick

[Brew]

But Joey was coping it from a Martin after he kicked a penalty goal to put them 14 in front, carrying on pointing a hand gun at him and mouthing off as they were going back to the kick off. Something like that is obviously going to trigger off someone like BJ.
If you want to dish it out be prepared to cop it.


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[dubby]

Buzz needs to be more concerned with his idiotic attitude towards origin

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[Botman]

I can see why people would be against what Beej did after scoring the match winner... but i watch sport in large part to be entertained. Im herefor all the petty **** talk, i've seen on FB and by posters here apparently the dogs were getting stuck in Beej, and rightly so, he had had a stinker... but if you want to poke the beast and he **** all over your stupid **** face in the final minute, im cool with him letting them know about it, with interest.

Jalen Ramsey and Joel Embiid are basically my favourite athletes right now because they are unapologetic **** talkers.

Beej can talk as much **** as he **** likes, so long as it's not directed towards officials that result in penalties and sin bins

[yeh raiders]

If it was the case that Joey was giving as good as he got, then I couldn’t give a stuff what he said to them after winning the game.. they deserved it. And it was **** hilarious to watch him carry on.

[greeneyed]

Raiders should be better than that. That's not the Raiders way.

[Schifty]

If it high stakes finals match I would understand it more.

But we were playing a NSW cup side, their **** talking was the tactic to put us off because they weren't close to matching it talent wise.. Some of our players almost fell for it as well.

[greeneyed]

League legend Peter Sterling slams Canberra Raiders Joey Leilua for 'disrespectful' act

Rugby league legend Peter Sterling has unleashed both barrels on Raiders match winner Joey Leilua for taunting Brett and Josh Morris after scoring the deciding try in Canberra's extraordinary come-from-behind win over the Bulldogs.

"14-all, the game is there to be won or lost. Now he goes close to scoring (in the 58th minute), tries to milk a penalty - just get up and play it, it wasn't the last tackle. Now on his way back he gives the ref a serve, so they get marched and (the Bulldogs) get a kick for touch. And from that the Bulldogs score.

Read more: https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/07/09/16/ ... oey-leilua

[greeneyed]

AUDIO: Canberra Raiders captain Jarrod Croker says team got out of jail against Canterbury Bulldogs

Audio: http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/1/dT701y.mp3

[greeneyed]

Ricky Stuart has reportedly opened his team meeting today by giving Joey Leilua a piece of his mind over ugly incident

VETERAN league reporter Phil Rothfield has revealed Ricky Stuart used his team meeting on Monday to single out Joey Leilua over what he deemed to be poor sportsmanship at the weekend. After scoring the match-winner at Belmore, the pumped up Samoan international stood over Brett Morris and gave him a gobful.

“You know what, he opened the meeting with Joey Leilua’s behaviour at the end of the game. He said it’s not acceptable at this club, he doesn’t want to see him do it again this year.”

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... f32cb767dc

[boydy80]

#### I hate rothfield. Don't even care if he's right. What a ####

[CJ42]

If it wasn’t the Morris boys (who could be seen giving it to Joey along with Rhyse Martin) then nobody would blink an eye

[BadnMean]

Rothfield saying on NRL 360 saying he spoke to Ricky Stuart today about the behaviour of Joey Leilua after the winning try... and claims that Ricky Stuart opened the video session today with it and said he didn’t want to see something like that again. I’m glad, because it was unacceptable behaviour.

Although I 100% agree with this. My wife and I laughed for like 2 minutes at that!


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Ricky Stuart Secretly a master of irony... Doesn't want to see it again... Nekk minit opens video session by replaying it

[RedRaider]

BJ is either rocks or diamonds. I have said in other years that I think he is 'uncoachable'. He is an emotion player. Once emotion takes over then thinking goes out the window. If he had simply celebrated with his team mates on the remarkable win then everyone would have spoken to him in glowing terms despite his shocking defensive effort.

There were times during the match he was out of position. He simply wasn't beside his winger in the defensive line. Once I saw Sezer in his position and the Dogs made the break and scored. BJ was far in field trying to jostle with a shoulder and the Dogs got a try because of it. Dumb. Once again sides poured down our defensive right. Emotion had got him (and us) again.

[Roger Kenworthy]

Seems like the club see BJ giving the Morris boys a bit of a serve is more serious than the Wighton incident...

[Botman]

Raiders should be better than that. That's not the Raiders way.

The Raiders way... what is that?
Is there some kind of document outlining what the Raiders way is?
Is is just under performing in an environment that lacks accountability from top to bottom? Is is whinging constantly about referees rather than address the real issues with performance? is it over paying middling talent? Is it poor bench usage and playing people way out of position?
Is it like taking lines in the sand over **** talk and backing unprovoked assault to the hills?

What is the Raiders way?!

[greeneyed]

Raiders should be better than that. That's not the Raiders way.

The Raiders way... what is that?
Is there some kind of document outlining what the Raiders way is?
Is is just under performing in an environment that lacks accountability from top to bottom? Is is whinging constantly about referees rather than address the real issues with performance? is it over paying middling talent? Is it poor bench usage and playing people way out of position?
Is it like taking lines in the sand over **** talk and backing unprovoked assault to the hills?

What is the Raiders way?!

I can’t remember all the Raiders’ values off the top of my head... but I’m sure “respect” is one of them... for a start.

[Woodgers]

I don't like to see the Raiders carrying on like that but the point here is he was copping it off plenty of them first and rightly so because of his mistakes earlier in the 2nd half. Now if they're giving it to him telling him he cost them the game and whatnot when they were 14 up, they deserve to get it back. Like someone else said if it wasn't the meek Morris boys and instead it was Chambers or Dylan Walker then no one would care that much.

I don't mind if the coach reminds him to tone it down because clearly he gets swept up in the contest and loses control, but for the coach to single him out in front of everyone for it is actually laughable. Now i'm not laying the boot into Sticky because it's currently popular but we're talking about a guy who has a list of poor sportsmanship and getting carried away as long as your arm. He kicks chairs on the sideline every other week! The incident after the World Cup loss to NZ will forever be a black mark on his name and miles worse than this. Sure he might have changed his ways but to blast him in front of the group is hypocritical at it's best really.

As for Rothfield "one of the worst things i've ever seen on the footy field"...please! There would be 50 worse things this season alone for a start. Plus he's a Cronulla apologist, I bet my house you could find Cronulla players doing far worse things over the past few seasons in regards to mocking and sledging than what Joey did (let alone ripping at stitches, racist taunts etc). As soon as that bloated drunk gets out of the game the better, he's a biased knuckledragger.

[Botman]

That's the trouble, Woody
He hasnt changed his way, Stuart is as poor a sport as he's always been.

BJ would be right to stand up in that meeting and give him the Remember The Titans quote - "Attitude reflects leadership"

[Botman]

Raiders should be better than that. That's not the Raiders way.

The Raiders way... what is that?
Is there some kind of document outlining what the Raiders way is?
Is is just under performing in an environment that lacks accountability from top to bottom? Is is whinging constantly about referees rather than address the real issues with performance? is it over paying middling talent? Is it poor bench usage and playing people way out of position?
Is it like taking lines in the sand over **** talk and backing unprovoked assault to the hills?

What is the Raiders way?!

I can’t remember all the Raiders’ values off the top of my head... but I’m sure “respect” is one of them... for a start.

haha look i just always rally against this sort of stuff, all clubs do it "the raiders way" or whatever they call it.. it's all just **** coach speak they feed to players because they need to keep hearing their own voices.

The clubs and coaches go against their values all the time if it suits their agenda

[-PJ-]

BJ should have grabbed the two wooden spoons tucked in his sock and handed them to the Morris boys.

Look..BJ had a rough night. He'd been copping it pretty much all night through no fault but his own. His brainfart dumb plays gave the Dogs a very handy lead and they let him know it.

Emotion grabbed hold of him, he scored a try to win the unwinnable at Belmore in front of a bunch of supporters who were slagging him off as well.

I'm not too upset by his actions. A little over the top but meh....