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Re: Sack Don Furner

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Northern Raider wrote: August 14, 2018, 11:31 am If you're CEO of business that sets out a strategic plan like this then falls well short there are only 2 options available to you. Either completely overhaul the people and systems you put in place or simply step down from the role. If neither happen then the board should have no alternative but to remove the CEO themselves.

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Completely agree with you NR.
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RedRaider wrote:
T_R wrote: August 14, 2018, 9:05 am
RedRaider wrote: August 14, 2018, 7:20 am At the risk of being banished to the naughty corner, I have found DFJ to be a personable friendly bloke. He is willing to stop and have a chat with Raiders fans from out of town. As far as I am currently aware the finances of the organisation are in good shape. That is a key component for a CEO. He has had some tough things to do in his time, one of which was to sack his Brother. He will soon have another tough thing to do. Move on a Hall Of Famer.
I completely disagree.

You've selected a single KPI - 'Ensure the financial viability of the company' from a long list, and then used it (along with 'he seems nice') to judge the success of the CEO. I believe that the football operations run at a substantial loss, and are propped up by grants from the Leagues Clubs (correct me if I'm wrong), so I'm not sure he's even meeting that one basic KPI. Beyond that, he is running a football club. Just not going bankrupt seems to me to be a pretty low bar to set for success in that environment.

How about we look at the success of the team? Imagine how financially viable they'd be if they started winning premierships.
:D Would now not be a good time to mention I have an Arts degree from the University of New England in Armidale with majors in Economics and Economic History.
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:lol: Explains a lot, eh T_R :arrow:
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RedRaider wrote:Image Explains a lot, eh T_R :arrow:
To be honest, I'm just wondering why you're not CEO of an NRL team.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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Hmmmm...... maybe he already is :hmmm
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RedRaider is DFJ :woot:
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Northern Raider wrote:RedRaider is DFJ :woot:
I think that's fairly obvious at this point, yes.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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Now I’m wondering if Rodman ever finished that PhD he was doing
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He did, but it took a few extra years because he switched topics mid-way through. Changed to “Why McCrone sucks”.
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gangrenous wrote: August 15, 2018, 8:09 am He did, but it took a few extra years because he switched topics mid-way through. Changed to “Why McCrone sucks”.
would have involved some heavy supervision/editing, I'm guessing
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His paper on “McCrone to hooker: a case study in bloody-minded stupidity” is regarded as seminal in the industry. Very highly cited.
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T_R wrote: August 12, 2018, 9:09 pm
papabear wrote:
T_R wrote: August 12, 2018, 7:09 pm You don't just sack a guy with a BA from the University of New England! They don't just grow on trees, you know!
tbh i turned down ANU to go to UNE, good fun uni.

in any event, I agree with thread title, just not with T_R's lovely charmer of a post.
A noble sacrifice.

It's there anything about a UNE BA that qualifies one to run a football club?
Regardless of what degree he’s got, rugby league jobs are always given on connections like politics not ability.

Just saying you can knock any uni had he got a BA from ANU or CU I doubt it would make much difference to his performance.

I would like a Daryl Morey type from the Houston Rockets who is a bit more appreciative of the salary cap / analytics but it’s not going to happen.

Morey has a degree from MIT I believe
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Re: Sack Don Furner

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papabear wrote: August 17, 2018, 1:26 pm
T_R wrote: August 12, 2018, 9:09 pm
papabear wrote:
T_R wrote: August 12, 2018, 7:09 pm You don't just sack a guy with a BA from the University of New England! They don't just grow on trees, you know!
tbh i turned down ANU to go to UNE, good fun uni.

in any event, I agree with thread title, just not with T_R's lovely charmer of a post.
A noble sacrifice.

It's there anything about a UNE BA that qualifies one to run a football club?
Regardless of what degree he’s got, rugby league jobs are always given on connections like politics not ability.

Just saying you can knock any uni had he got a BA from ANU or CU I doubt it would make much difference to his performance.

I would like a Daryl Morey type from the Houston Rockets who is a bit more appreciative of the salary cap / analytics but it’s not going to happen.

Morey has a degree from MIT I believe
I wouldn't disagree about the degree side of things, but I don't agree it's just about connections. I believe Don would be nearly unique with probably Doust in terms of having no experience outside of the club. Many other CEOs have been CEOs or in very senior positions in the private sector.
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I was mocking the BA actually.
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
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