Siliva Havili set to sign two year deal with Canberra Raiders

[RTW]

Tonight’s match shows exactly why we shouldn’t be spending anymore than close to minimum $ for the guy.

As much as he has shown and yes - he is a 1st grade standard hooker. We have a Superstar at 9 and 3 international 80 minute backrowers on the books.

I really like the man and want him in our 14 - but going forward he really isn’t getting more than 10 odd minutes a match.

Yeah, as good as Havili has been we saw in that game the difference a top class hooker makes. I think his value at 14 could be more than just a few cameos at dummy half. He's quite a capable middle forward and could easily come into that rotation. No reason he can't play 30-40 mins in the middle and slot into dummy half if Hodgo needs a spell.

If Hodgo needs a spell that is 10min
If Papalii needs a spell another ten.

No way are you playing him at prop. His time on the field going forward will be limited but that is the role of a number 14 if he is happy to play that role and stay for minimum dollars you keep him.

If he gets a better offer somewhere else with a promise of more minutes you let him go with your best wishes and find the next bloke who can give you ten quality minutes off the bench.

[Northern Raider]

Tonight’s match shows exactly why we shouldn’t be spending anymore than close to minimum $ for the guy.

As much as he has shown and yes - he is a 1st grade standard hooker. We have a Superstar at 9 and 3 international 80 minute backrowers on the books.

I really like the man and want him in our 14 - but going forward he really isn’t getting more than 10 odd minutes a match.

Yeah, as good as Havili has been we saw in that game the difference a top class hooker makes. I think his value at 14 could be more than just a few cameos at dummy half. He's quite a capable middle forward and could easily come into that rotation. No reason he can't play 30-40 mins in the middle and slot into dummy half if Hodgo needs a spell.

If Hodgo needs a spell that is 10min
If Papalii needs a spell another ten.

No way are you playing him at prop. His time on the field going forward will be limited but that is the role of a number 14 if he is happy to play that role and stay for minimum dollars you keep him.

If he gets a better offer somewhere else with a promise of more minutes you let him go with your best wishes and find the next bloke who can give you ten quality minutes off the bench.

I would say if he gets a "better offer" somewhere else then they can all wait till his contract has ended after the 2020 season.

[CJ42]

I mean he can play lock pushing papalii into front row.


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[Northern Raider]

Paps played prop yesterday when Bateman came on didn't he? Theres a very blurry line between them but I'm basing this on the kickoff set up when Paps was in the first hit up position.

[reptar]

Paps played prop yesterday when Bateman came on didn't he? Theres a very blurry line between them but I'm basing this on the kickoff set up when Paps was in the first hit up position.

I dunno, I can't stop looking at Jamie Buhrer go flying. That IS Buhrer, yeah?

[bonehead]

Paps played prop yesterday when Bateman came on didn't he? Theres a very blurry line between them but I'm basing this on the kickoff set up when Paps was in the first hit up position.

I dunno, I can't stop looking at Jamie Buhrer go flying. That IS Buhrer, yeah?

crash test buhrer

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[Johno]

Have we missed Junior?

[BJ]

Have we missed Junior?

Definitely his offloads. A distinct lack of second phase play since his injury.

[CJ42]

Paps played prop yesterday when Bateman came on didn't he? Theres a very blurry line between them but I'm basing this on the kickoff set up when Paps was in the first hit up position.

I dunno, I can't stop looking at Jamie Buhrer go flying. That IS Buhrer, yeah?

I’m not sure, I guess it’s like seeing the bottom of a plane at 30,000ft, can’t quite identify who’s plane it is.

[scotchberry]

I guess with the forward rotation going forward might bring Havili’s value up. Luke Bateman is looking likely to be 1st cab off the bench next season at this stage which is worrying - Havili could possibly be better than him.

I think next season we are going to miss Junior a lot more than we will miss Boyd.

[Botman]

"better offer" somewhere else then they can all wait till his contract has ended after the 2020 season.

Havili is not someone who moves the needle, he's a solid player and one we can use but one we could also fairly easily replace.
Why would you risk alienating yourself to other prospective depth players, and keep a potential malcontent in the locker room? To what end? What would you trying to achieve with that?

If some club wants to pay Havili substancially more money, with the promise of a bigger role and he wants to leave. Letting him leave is exactly the easy, simple "we're good guys who look after our players" move we should make

The moment you start standing in the way of guys like Havili getting bigger and better opportunities when you dont have a great need for them, is the moment you stop being an attractive place for guys like Havili coming here and rounding out your squad.

[LastRaider]

Tonight’s match shows exactly why we shouldn’t be spending anymore than close to minimum $ for the guy.

As much as he has shown and yes - he is a 1st grade standard hooker. We have a Superstar at 9 and 3 international 80 minute backrowers on the books.

I really like the man and want him in our 14 - but going forward he really isn’t getting more than 10 odd minutes a match.

I agree. If we are paying more than minimal wage it just isn’t worth it. It can be filled by an up and coming u20’s player who could be a future first grader or our next prodigy. Hodgson needs to be playing most of the 80 mins in the future


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[bleedgreen99]

We have the luxury of carrying someone like havili on the bench and him not getting any minutes. And skilled/mobile middle third forwards are increasing in value. We’d have been screwed without him this year I doubt we’d let him go. He brings a lot to a footy team

[Northern Raider]

Paps played prop yesterday when Bateman came on didn't he? Theres a very blurry line between them but I'm basing this on the kickoff set up when Paps was in the first hit up position.

I dunno, I can't stop looking at Jamie Buhrer go flying. That IS Buhrer, yeah?

I’m not sure, I guess it’s like seeing the bottom of a plane at 30,000ft, can’t quite identify who’s plane it is.

Yep, definitely Buhrer. I'll need to change it by next year as Paulo won't be here any more.

[CJ42]

Paps played prop yesterday when Bateman came on didn't he? Theres a very blurry line between them but I'm basing this on the kickoff set up when Paps was in the first hit up position.

I dunno, I can't stop looking at Jamie Buhrer go flying. That IS Buhrer, yeah?

I’m not sure, I guess it’s like seeing the bottom of a plane at 30,000ft, can’t quite identify who’s plane it is.

Yep, definitely Buhrer. I'll need to change it by next year as Paulo won't be here any more.

Haha I know it was him, you can just change it to the time papa smoked him.

[RedRaider]

Siliva sure has silky passing skills and is a very good defender. With a little work on his kicking game I wonder how he would go at 5/8. We have used EW in the position. I know he is a FG level No9 and will be a handy back up back rower. I just wonder if his utility value could be further increased if he proved to be capable with a 6 on his back. Should this season become mathematically impossible to make the 8, I hope we will test a lot of potential options for 2019.

[bonehead]

Siliva sure has silky passing skills and is a very good defender. With a little work on his kicking game I wonder how he would go at 5/8. We have used EW in the position. I know he is a FG level No9 and will be a handy back up back rower. I just wonder if his utility value could be further increased if he proved to be capable with a 6 on his back. Should this season become mathematically impossible to make the 8, I hope we will test a lot of potential options for 2019.

poor Red, his rubber band has finally snapped too.

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[RedRaider]

Siliva sure has silky passing skills and is a very good defender. With a little work on his kicking game I wonder how he would go at 5/8. We have used EW in the position. I know he is a FG level No9 and will be a handy back up back rower. I just wonder if his utility value could be further increased if he proved to be capable with a 6 on his back. Should this season become mathematically impossible to make the 8, I hope we will test a lot of potential options for 2019.

poor Red, his rubber band has finally snapped too.

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And the Hamster in the Hamster wheel is sick..