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Where would you like a new Canberra Stadium to be built?

Civic
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Bruce
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Re: A new Canberra Stadium?

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-TW- wrote:Yet the government won't allow a private consortium to fund it either..

I'm pretty sure a group of Super funds would line up to fund it, with a deal to sell it back to the government in 20 years or so, Etihad Stadium style

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I might be off the mark with this, but I thought that the most significant cost was the realignment or tunnelling of Parkes Way
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New Stadium won’t happen until at least 2025.

Sulwood Drive duplication promised in 1979. Still single lane.
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Dr Zaius wrote: March 17, 2021, 8:43 pm
-TW- wrote:Yet the government won't allow a private consortium to fund it either..

I'm pretty sure a group of Super funds would line up to fund it, with a deal to sell it back to the government in 20 years or so, Etihad Stadium style

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I might be off the mark with this, but I thought that the most significant cost was the realignment or tunnelling of Parkes Way
That is certainly a big consideration. They are already having to do some major roadwork in the vicinity, to raise London Circuit to level it out with Commonwealth Avenue for the light rail extension. While the traffic is being seriously disrupted in the area, they should definitely consider the realignment of Parkes Way in the same project.
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BJ wrote: March 17, 2021, 9:45 pm New Stadium won’t happen until at least 2025.

Sulwood Drive duplication promised in 1979. Still single lane.
No hope of that with the current Chief Minister. 2035 maybe.
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Andrew Abdo wants a stadium.

Reminds me of when I wanted a date with Jennifer Aniston in 1996. Never happened.
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:What is an infinity bowl?
I think it’s where Thanos stored the Infinity Stones while the Gauntlet was being made
Fui I was thinking very similar, but I had the infinity bowl as a place he 'passes' the infinity stones.

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Botman wrote: March 17, 2021, 7:21 pm
simo wrote: March 17, 2021, 12:30 pm
Botman wrote: March 17, 2021, 12:26 pm
simo wrote: March 17, 2021, 10:46 am the nrl should be saying the act gov has until 2023 to have signed off on a new civic stadium or canberra will no longer host finals games.
I doubt such a threat would even register on the ACT GOV radar.
i disagree. that finals time atmoshpere around canberra was the absolute best. another couple of those and people will be crying out to make it continue
That **** only matters when the sitting governement is at risk of actually losing power. Canberra arent going to vote in a LNP party anytime soon. So they'll do it on their terms and their terms only, they're not losing enough votes on this for it to even remotely matter.

Barr as per above has already said forget about until 2025, thats the carrot at the end of the stick. I'd be stunned if we have a new stadium committed to and in progress before 2027-28, and absolutely nothing the NRL threaten the Raiders with will change that. Other factors might change that timeline, but not threats from the NRL
Let's face it, if the AFL were to say they were going to block any more games coming to Canberra, it would be a close race between Barr **** himself and finding the money.

The idea of the NRL withdrawing finals games would not really matter to him apart from the revenue from fans visiting the ACT.
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BJ Mole reporting that AFL boss wants upgrade to corporate box at GWS game. Andrew Barr promises work to start this afternoon.
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yurithe1 wrote: March 18, 2021, 10:33 am
Botman wrote: March 17, 2021, 7:21 pm
simo wrote: March 17, 2021, 12:30 pm
Botman wrote: March 17, 2021, 12:26 pm
simo wrote: March 17, 2021, 10:46 am the nrl should be saying the act gov has until 2023 to have signed off on a new civic stadium or canberra will no longer host finals games.
I doubt such a threat would even register on the ACT GOV radar.
i disagree. that finals time atmoshpere around canberra was the absolute best. another couple of those and people will be crying out to make it continue
That **** only matters when the sitting governement is at risk of actually losing power. Canberra arent going to vote in a LNP party anytime soon. So they'll do it on their terms and their terms only, they're not losing enough votes on this for it to even remotely matter.

Barr as per above has already said forget about until 2025, thats the carrot at the end of the stick. I'd be stunned if we have a new stadium committed to and in progress before 2027-28, and absolutely nothing the NRL threaten the Raiders with will change that. Other factors might change that timeline, but not threats from the NRL
Let's face it, if the AFL were to say they were going to block any more games coming to Canberra, it would be a close race between Barr **** himself and finding the money.

The idea of the NRL withdrawing finals games would not really matter to him apart from the revenue from fans visiting the ACT.
Unfortunately so.
Which is a shame because generally speaking i think the Barr government does a pretty good job, but it is clear they aren't huge RL or Raiders fans. So yeah, they're not going to alter their stadium plans unless it is motivated by other means. I honestly think unless Australia won a WC or an AFL team came to town properly, the best case scenario in 2030 is we're sitting in a "renovated" Bruce Stadium
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It's kinda weird, because Barr was a big Raiders fan when he was in high school. In saying that, it was the late 90's, so we pretty much all were.
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Seiffert82 wrote: March 18, 2021, 11:52 am It's kinda weird, because Barr was a big Raiders fan when he was in high school. In saying that, it was the late 90's, so we pretty much all were.
Bit sad, so he missed the actual success and just had Matt Elliot-style Raiders to go on. No wonder he doesn't like us.
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Lui_Bon wrote: March 18, 2021, 10:00 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: March 18, 2021, 11:52 am It's kinda weird, because Barr was a big Raiders fan when he was in high school. In saying that, it was the late 90's, so we pretty much all were.
Bit sad, so he missed the actual success and just had Matt Elliot-style Raiders to go on. No wonder he doesn't like us.
Good point. Late 80's.

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BJ wrote: March 17, 2021, 9:45 pm New Stadium won’t happen until at least 2025.

Sulwood Drive duplication promised in 1979. Still single lane.
To be fair, that precedes self-government, which residents rejected in a referendum twice. Thanks, Hawkey.

Probably no one remembers that was a thing back then.

Everyone will remember how long this stadium schnemozzle has dragged out.
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yurithe1 wrote:
BJ wrote: March 17, 2021, 9:45 pm New Stadium won’t happen until at least 2025.

Sulwood Drive duplication promised in 1979. Still single lane.
To be fair, that precedes self-government, which residents rejected in a referendum twice. Thanks, Hawkey.

Probably no one remembers that was a thing back then.

Everyone will remember how long this stadium schnemozzle has dragged out.
Does that mean any commitments, rulings, zoning decisions or development work before self government doesn’t count?

You should note Sulwood dr duplication was first promised in the 70s and reiterated by local members of the Follet and Stanhope Governments. They even did some road grading and prep for duplication many years ago that you can still see to this day. Same with Erindale dr West of the service station.

Pretty weak if you can claim that because something was first promised before self government then all bets are off. But you said “that’s fair”.
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BJ wrote: March 22, 2021, 12:48 pm
yurithe1 wrote:
BJ wrote: March 17, 2021, 9:45 pm New Stadium won’t happen until at least 2025.

Sulwood Drive duplication promised in 1979. Still single lane.
To be fair, that precedes self-government, which residents rejected in a referendum twice. Thanks, Hawkey.

Probably no one remembers that was a thing back then.

Everyone will remember how long this stadium schnemozzle has dragged out.
Does that mean any commitments, rulings, zoning decisions or development work before self government doesn’t count?

You should note Sulwood dr duplication was first promised in the 70s and reiterated by local members of the Follet and Stanhope Governments. They even did some road grading and prep for duplication many years ago that you can still see to this day. Same with Erindale dr West of the service station.

Pretty weak if you can claim that because something was first promised before self government then all bets are off. But you said “that’s fair”.
I wasn't aware of any commitments made after self-government came in. It would've helped if you'd mentioned that.
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I think I’d get carpal tunnel syndrome if I had to type the ever continuing pre election commitments from politicians. No matter which party, electorate or level of government.

How about a fast train......

That’s a great one for a local member to bring up in the months leading up to an election.

New indoor sporting arena in the south of Canberra is always another doozy.
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BJ wrote: March 22, 2021, 2:05 pm I think I’d get carpal tunnel syndrome if I had to type the ever continuing pre election commitments from politicians. No matter which party, electorate or level of government. Image

How about a fast train......

That’s a great one for a local member to bring up in the months leading up to an election.

New indoor sporting arena in the south of Canberra is always another doozy.
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  • Audi / VW / Porsche group entering F1
  • New Canberra stadium
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Good point Fui. Canberra getting an A League team (we have a hidden rich benefactor in the wings) is rolled out at every expansion discussion.
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Fui isn't wrong
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So, there IS money in the kitty. Redistribute it to Canberra Hospital and making a start on the stadium.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14225
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