Agreed, but Austin still needs to dummy less. Probably about 50% is the right amount. Right now he dummies about 80% of the time.bonehead wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 11:13 amI've said before, Austin and Leilua need each other. Austin's show and go is so much more effective with BJ as the dummy receiver because he's such a dangerous early ball guy, BJ is more dangerous himself if the opposition know they can't early slide to him due to Austin's show and go.The Nickman wrote:That's some pretty good advice, but I would add that he still needs to pass more and dummy less. The blokes outside him fair dinkum catch a cold most nights.raiderskater wrote: ↑May 1, 2018, 10:10 pm This is really all very simple.
Blake, you can run, step, dummy, take penalty kicks and dropouts. Have some fun. And then when it's time to kick, give the ball to Aidan. Aidan calls the shots. Josh, same to you. You can give your standard service out of dummy half, have a few scoots and runs, but let Aidan call the shots.
Then we could keep all three and it would be fine.
And dummying less will make it even more effective too.
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Canberra Raiders re-sign Aidan Sezer for two more years
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I wonder whether this is the club’s recognition of the game shifting towards more mobile props - In which case conceding Vaughn’s release was a mistake...
Or we literally have no hope of retaining Boyd and Paulo on the coin they’re after.
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Exactly what is wrong with this club. We have some big names coming off contract and we are focused on Bateman! Figures, stick probably giving him rediculas money as wellgreeneyed wrote:Sezer and Bateman are Canberra Raiders re-signing priorities
Of the 13 players off-contract with Canberra this season, half Aidan Sezer and lock Luke Bateman are the club’s priority retentions. Sezer is in advanced talks to sign off on a new two-year-deal. Sia Soliola turns 32 in August but the Raiders are hopeful of extending his stay at least another season.
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I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
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Exactly.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
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They wont release a presser saying - 'we've likely to lose our x2 best props because other teams are offering them ridiculous money' if they are genuinely still in negotiations. Bateman 'should' be a cost effective bench option with a lot of first grade experience, and relatively easy to re-sign. Just because they have made it a priority doesn't mean they see him as their big money option leading our pack, its just that we have the chance to re-sign an experienced player who busts his **** for us - that great depth right there. Make it a priority to sign him up.
Its not rocket science.
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I work with that as a given for everyone. But he was much better on Saturday.
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It just shows the state of the club. You don’t see other clubs talking up there signings of tier 2 players. Only usCoastalraider wrote:Exactly.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
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They wont release a presser saying - 'we've likely to lose our x2 best props because other teams are offering them ridiculous money' if they are genuinely still in negotiations. Bateman 'should' be a cost effective bench option with a lot of first grade experience, and relatively easy to re-sign. Just because they have made it a priority doesn't mean they see him as their big money option leading our pack, its just that we have the chance to re-sign an experienced player who busts his **** for us - that great depth right there. Make it a priority to sign him up.
Its not rocket science.
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Re: Sezer close to re-signing
The Nickman wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 9:30 amThat's some pretty good advice, but I would add that he still needs to pass more and dummy less. The blokes outside him fair dinkum catch a cold most nights.raiderskater wrote: ↑May 1, 2018, 10:10 pm This is really all very simple.
Blake, you can run, step, dummy, take penalty kicks and dropouts. Have some fun. And then when it's time to kick, give the ball to Aidan. Aidan calls the shots. Josh, same to you. You can give your standard service out of dummy half, have a few scoots and runs, but let Aidan call the shots.
Then we could keep all three and it would be fine.
And dummying less will make it even more effective too.
And run to the line before he passes!
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I think you’ll find every club sprukes every signing...LastRaider wrote:It just shows the state of the club. You don’t see other clubs talking up there signings of tier 2 players. Only usCoastalraider wrote:Exactly.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
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They wont release a presser saying - 'we've likely to lose our x2 best props because other teams are offering them ridiculous money' if they are genuinely still in negotiations. Bateman 'should' be a cost effective bench option with a lot of first grade experience, and relatively easy to re-sign. Just because they have made it a priority doesn't mean they see him as their big money option leading our pack, its just that we have the chance to re-sign an experienced player who busts his **** for us - that great depth right there. Make it a priority to sign him up.
Its not rocket science.
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Also that we've already moved at signing those big names. Sezer, Papalii are already reported as "almost there". Boyd and Paulo have had offers made and are looking elsewhere for more.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
All that re-signing work happened before this article touting Bateman as our top priority.
Sometimes it seems like people are just looking at something to be angry at rather than sitting back and thinking about it.
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Honestly, if I could only choose 2 out of Paulo, Boyd, Sezer and Paps, it'd be the last 2, so I'll be VERY happy if this happens.zim wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 9:53 pmAlso that we've already moved at signing those big names. Sezer, Papalii are already reported as "almost there". Boyd and Paulo have had offers made and are looking elsewhere for more.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
All that re-signing work happened before this article touting Bateman as our top priority.
Sometimes it seems like people are just looking at something to be angry at rather than sitting back and thinking about it.
Re: Sezer close to re-signing
I’m with you nickman, a big lumbering forward pack hasn’t worked for a year and a bit now, it’s time for something different.The Nickman wrote:Honestly, if I could only choose 2 out of Paulo, Boyd, Sezer and Paps, it'd be the last 2, so I'll be VERY happy if this happens.zim wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 9:53 pmAlso that we've already moved at signing those big names. Sezer, Papalii are already reported as "almost there". Boyd and Paulo have had offers made and are looking elsewhere for more.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
All that re-signing work happened before this article touting Bateman as our top priority.
Sometimes it seems like people are just looking at something to be angry at rather than sitting back and thinking about it.
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Yea can't disagree, A massive pack yet the only time we make real metres is when our outside backs do the work for themCJ42 wrote: ↑May 3, 2018, 10:48 amI’m with you nickman, a big lumbering forward pack hasn’t worked for a year and a bit now, it’s time for something different.The Nickman wrote:Honestly, if I could only choose 2 out of Paulo, Boyd, Sezer and Paps, it'd be the last 2, so I'll be VERY happy if this happens.zim wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 9:53 pmAlso that we've already moved at signing those big names. Sezer, Papalii are already reported as "almost there". Boyd and Paulo have had offers made and are looking elsewhere for more.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
All that re-signing work happened before this article touting Bateman as our top priority.
Sometimes it seems like people are just looking at something to be angry at rather than sitting back and thinking about it.
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Re: Sezer close to re-signing
Yeah, with the ruck and 10 metres cleaning up a bit and the increase in penalties the refs have really brought the more mobile forwards back into it. The only risk for us is whether they keep it up next year.
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100%, our back five all absolutely munched dirty yards, dummy half runs and kick returns in 2016, big boys rocked up for some hit ups on a retreating defensive line late in the set and were devastating.kiwi raider wrote:Yea can't disagree, A massive pack yet the only time we make real metres is when our outside backs do the work for themCJ42 wrote: ↑May 3, 2018, 10:48 amI’m with you nickman, a big lumbering forward pack hasn’t worked for a year and a bit now, it’s time for something different.The Nickman wrote:Honestly, if I could only choose 2 out of Paulo, Boyd, Sezer and Paps, it'd be the last 2, so I'll be VERY happy if this happens.zim wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 9:53 pmAlso that we've already moved at signing those big names. Sezer, Papalii are already reported as "almost there". Boyd and Paulo have had offers made and are looking elsewhere for more.El_Capitano wrote: ↑May 2, 2018, 2:17 pm I think you’ll find he’s probably the easiest to re-sign, and of course they are going to spin it as a win.
All that re-signing work happened before this article touting Bateman as our top priority.
Sometimes it seems like people are just looking at something to be angry at rather than sitting back and thinking about it.
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Re: Sezer close to re-signing
Watching the way Sezer carries himself over recent weeks I feel like he could be turning the corner... he has clearly been given a clear role in the team and that is to run it.
He has ability and is a tough player. Good kicking game and great D! If he could improve his running game he would be a great 7.
He is still young.
I am not 100% sure what the right thing for the club here is... but my guess would be he would be a good gamble.
He has ability and is a tough player. Good kicking game and great D! If he could improve his running game he would be a great 7.
He is still young.
I am not 100% sure what the right thing for the club here is... but my guess would be he would be a good gamble.
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Is it just me or does sezer look like seth sentry?
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James Hooper reported on Triple M that this should be signed off this week
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Goodie.
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I’m so torn over him.
Great defender for a half.
Has some pretty good all round skills and decent kicking game.
But just plays so dumb sometimes for a half. Lacks composure and direction at key moments almost always.
How old is he?
Maybe he grows into that older head style play maker ...
Great defender for a half.
Has some pretty good all round skills and decent kicking game.
But just plays so dumb sometimes for a half. Lacks composure and direction at key moments almost always.
How old is he?
Maybe he grows into that older head style play maker ...
Re: Sezer close to re-signing
to me sezer is a good hard nsw cup player. Deep down we all know it.
You need one quality player in your halves and we do not have it.
Our spine is the most garbage in the nrl by a decent margin.
You need one quality player in your halves and we do not have it.
Our spine is the most garbage in the nrl by a decent margin.
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I don't understand how anyone could be torn. Seriously, this guy's good games are just an average performance from any other half in the comp.
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If he doesn’t get a stint in Mounties after his past two weeks, we must be readying a 10-year deal.
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The only thing torn is the hair on my head, having to watch him play for us.
Marc Herbert, McCrone, Orford, Campese, Sezer.
We can pick a good halfback can’t we!
How can Ricky possibly have any confidence that Sezer is going to steer us to a premiership, from what we’ve seen in the last 2 seasons.
Marc Herbert, McCrone, Orford, Campese, Sezer.
We can pick a good halfback can’t we!
How can Ricky possibly have any confidence that Sezer is going to steer us to a premiership, from what we’ve seen in the last 2 seasons.
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One point I want to make is that it's a massive cop out to blame Stuart for Sezer's form. Debate his record with halves all you want, that's fine. In fact I would blame a lot of Austin's form on Stuart using him the wrong way from 2016 onwards and not playing to his strengths.
This is not the case for Sezer though. He does not have the skill or talent for it. He has had countless opportunities to step up and guide us to victory in his time here, yet he fails over and over again. He's isn't being used the wrong way, this is the way he plays. You can only coach a guy so much who has no feel for the game, or vision, and who doesn't have the instincts of a proper halfback.
He looks like a half because it looks pretty when he kicks and passes, that's it. Textbook technique, I'll give him that. That doesn't make you a decent footballer though. Unfortunately that seems to deceive a helluva lot of people.
This is not the case for Sezer though. He does not have the skill or talent for it. He has had countless opportunities to step up and guide us to victory in his time here, yet he fails over and over again. He's isn't being used the wrong way, this is the way he plays. You can only coach a guy so much who has no feel for the game, or vision, and who doesn't have the instincts of a proper halfback.
He looks like a half because it looks pretty when he kicks and passes, that's it. Textbook technique, I'll give him that. That doesn't make you a decent footballer though. Unfortunately that seems to deceive a helluva lot of people.
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Ill go on record here.
Sezer is worth another contract.
I believe he's worth the investment.
Sezer is worth another contract.
I believe he's worth the investment.
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Not a contradiction at all. The coaching side of it and management side of it are two different things.
If he re-signs him, it's piss poor management as he's basically disregarding one of his biggest problem areas/unable to identify upgrades.
If he re-signs him, it's piss poor management as he's basically disregarding one of his biggest problem areas/unable to identify upgrades.
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I meant strictly hands on coaching in my original post, because whenever the topic of Stuart and halves is raised it's inevitable that people make implications that he coaches halves to be worse players. To me the fact that Sezer is playing garbage/is garbage is wholly on himself and his lack of ability, not Stuart.
What is on Stuart is his decision to sign him, his decision to persist with him, and it'll be his fault if he re-sign him. The fact that he doesn't seem to be able to address the issue properly is alarming - it killed us last season and it's killing us again this season. It's almost just as alarming that a number of our fans still seem to think that isn't a major problem on the field.
What is on Stuart is his decision to sign him, his decision to persist with him, and it'll be his fault if he re-sign him. The fact that he doesn't seem to be able to address the issue properly is alarming - it killed us last season and it's killing us again this season. It's almost just as alarming that a number of our fans still seem to think that isn't a major problem on the field.
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Our #9 is the best #7 we've had in a generation.
That's so depressing.
That's so depressing.
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It really is a giant #2
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At this stage of the Stuart era it's hard to fathom how anyone isnt fully supportive of ditching our coach and BOTH halves.
At absolute best you'd sack the coach and make the replacement pound the table for one of them if he really feels strongly about salvaging them, but they'd REALLY had to sell. But i cant see any reason why a coach would saddle up with either of them, unless he was bringing an absolute superstar half with him and you're going to run the play entirely through that player, and need a cheap jersey filler
But boy i got a great laugh when i read asksdfjasja is comfortable with chalking up Austin's abysmal level of play (though today was probably his best defensive performance in his career. Made 3-4 perfect 1 on 1 tackles, shame he offered nothing else) down to misuse by the coach, but for Sezer it's just a lack of talent and ability. I mean he didnt stick the landing but you gotta give him points for the level of difficulty in those logical gymnastics.
At absolute best you'd sack the coach and make the replacement pound the table for one of them if he really feels strongly about salvaging them, but they'd REALLY had to sell. But i cant see any reason why a coach would saddle up with either of them, unless he was bringing an absolute superstar half with him and you're going to run the play entirely through that player, and need a cheap jersey filler
But boy i got a great laugh when i read asksdfjasja is comfortable with chalking up Austin's abysmal level of play (though today was probably his best defensive performance in his career. Made 3-4 perfect 1 on 1 tackles, shame he offered nothing else) down to misuse by the coach, but for Sezer it's just a lack of talent and ability. I mean he didnt stick the landing but you gotta give him points for the level of difficulty in those logical gymnastics.
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I would throw the absolute bank at Cleary. He is the only half I can see turning this club around. I don’t care what he costs give him 1.8million and tell Sezer he is playing next to him for 200k per year and quite frankly he should be thanking us for the opportunity.