Training techniques

[Coastalraider]

I heard a very interesting Podcast with Anthony Seibold this week, talking about personal development and training techniques at the Bunnies.

He spends a lot of time on personal development as a manager of men, even linking up with national squads at the recent Comm Games to look into how those squad coaches were motivating their teams for tournaments.

But the most interesting part was that their standard day was ball work in the morning, and gym/recovery and video in the afternoons.

Sounds simple, but the reason being that for ever single ball session train, they film the entire session with a front on camera, a side on camera, and a drone camera. They can then revisit all of the footage of those sessions form multiple angles that same afternoon for debrief. I initially thought this would be great technology to use for attacking drills, but then thought how useful it could be in our squad for defensive shapes and positioning.

Very interesting use of fairly simple technology, I wonder if we have done anything like this? Has anyone seen drones at training sessions??

[sprintman]

Reading other teams forums the comment that the Raiders are unfit comes up repeatedly. Some of ours definitely are unfit

[edwahu]

Seems like a lot of effort for a training session. Do they actually watch it?

[samvucago]

All NRL teams film training sessions. Drones will be the norm sooner rather than later. EPL and NFL have used them for a number of years. The level of detail Seibold is using is a personal choice as to the level of detail you want to drill to as a coach. Some coaches will be pro that much info ie younger more tech savvy types other old school coaches like Bennett would not citing “paralysis by analysis” can be harmful to a footy team . Like I said personal preferences for coaches .

[Coastalraider]

Seems like a lot of effort for a training session. Do they actually watch it?

It didnt sound like they sit down as a team to watch the entire session - it seemed like they could use it as a highlights package type of thing to review.

[Matt]

Very interesting CR

[-PJ-]

I start off slow.
Build momentum during the session.
Reach my maximum intake.
Have a big drink of water.
And..go to bed.
Haven't had a hangover in 20yrs.

[Sossman]

Look, I have no idea what I'm talking about and I'm quite unfit myself...

However,

Shouldn't fitness be the easiest and most important thing to get right?

When I watch the Raiders it appears to my untrained eye that a lot of our attack is sparked by individual brilliance and opportunistic play.

If we want to foster ad hoc playmaking and really creative attack.. just make sure everyone is fit as **** so we always have players backing up and around the playmaker / break-making player ready to support?

[bonehead]

Our attack burns too much energy and puts our defence under excess load.
Also our big bodies are outweighing the mobility imo

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[bonehead]

stupid server

[BlameItOnTheBooger]

Just another former Raider coaching in the NRL...


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[Ruben Daley]

I don't get the unfit tag that I keep reading. The team has for the last year or more had very slow line speed right from the kick-off. The last two games, a few sporadic games last year and a fair bit of 2016, we had fast line speed for the whole game. The team is fit. Some guys' fitness comes and goes, some depending on injury, others depending on whether they've smashed seven Big Macs a day during the World Cup but I just don't agree with the idea that the club isn't training for fitness adequately and/or the bulk of the team isn't fit.

Secondly, the big bodies thing is a myth. We have two genuinely huge units in Paulo and Boyd (one soon to leave). We had three last year with the Coal Train. Papa isn't in the giant category. He's just heavyish. After that, Whitehead, Tapine, Sia, Bateman, Lui, Gubb, and Knight are all somewhere between small and middle for forwards. Our pack was bigger in 2016 when we had Vaughan in the rotation and Sia at lock instead of Bateman. It's the smallest it's been in years.

This is getting away from the original post about the use of drones etc. but these ideas keep coming up and it feels like guys have just got hold of an idea and repeated it without actually looking at what's going on.

p.s. I would have thought it'd make more sense to do skills late in the session, at least sometimes, so it's under fatigue to replicate game situations.

[EJ]

The Waratahs film all their on field training sessions with multiple cameras. They actually wanted to start hiring scissor lifts and film from four corners at elevated levels too, but the training ground wouldn't let them due to WHS issues.

[T_R]

I use a drone at my under 11s training

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[gangrenous]

But that’s not for filming right? That’s just for tactical strikes on those who aren’t performing?

[T_R]

You take out just ONE player from the air in the preseason, and the whole team lifts.

Hang on....isn't that what the Waratahs were doing? What's all this about filming something?

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[reptar]

You take out just ONE player from the air in the preseason, and the whole team lifts.

Hang on....isn't that what the Waratahs were doing? What's all this about filming something?

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snipers on all four corners of the field

[EJ]

I already said, snipers weren't allowed. WHS red tape gone too far.

[RedRaider]

Good post Coastal Raider. I am sure there are a lot of differing techniques tried to bring success to a club. I think watching the game day attacking moves of the upcoming opposition has a lot of merit. The moves can then be replicated in training and a counter defensive plan put in place and practiced. The use of cameras/drones can then be used to identify that the defensive tactics are likely to prove successful on game day.

Sticky tried a new technique which worked a couple of weeks ago. He called the players soft. It has produced the desired change in defensive attitude. Whatever works.