-TW- wrote: ↑April 13, 2018, 7:22 pm
He will need to evolve his game if interchanges end up being cut to 6
He would need to be able to play 50-60 straight before being worth even close to that
I don't agree.
For years the game had 2 replacements and props played 80 minutes. The likes of Brent Todd and Sam Backo!
The game will slow down with less replacements, which is the whole idea. To bring back attrition, to offset the rampaging plethora of big guys rubbing the skilful guys out of the game.
He'll go to Parra, we'll get Glasby.
I'm not actually sure what your point is there
Are you saying paying $800k for a guy who plays 40 mins is value for money?
-TW- wrote: ↑April 13, 2018, 7:22 pm
He will need to evolve his game if interchanges end up being cut to 6
He would need to be able to play 50-60 straight before being worth even close to that
I don't agree.
For years the game had 2 replacements and props played 80 minutes. The likes of Brent Todd and Sam Backo!
The game will slow down with less replacements, which is the whole idea. To bring back attrition, to offset the rampaging plethora of big guys rubbing the skilful guys out of the game.
He'll go to Parra, we'll get Glasby.
Lol, agree. And we will pay Glasby significant overs. That would be the most Raiders thing to happen.
You've seen this movie before too
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
Nah Timmy.
I'm saying I think Paulo is capable of playing longer minutes if trained and prepared properly. Our Samoan boys went on a feeding frenzy last year and are still looking for form and fitness as a result.
I like Paulo. He's a quality player. Not worth over $600k though.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
Anyone who says he wasn’t deserving of the medal last year and saying Cotric was instead, didn’t watch much footy last year. Paulo was dominant for us in the first half of the season. And it was frustrating when he was playing that halfback style some of the time when it was clear what he was capable of. People prob forget because if the way the season ended I suspect.
Cotric did some flashy things from time to time, and was great. But not the same thing as being our best player. Rapana played better than him. Props to Cotric for playing as he did at his age and in his first year, but really rose coloured glasses to get MMM from that.
Paulo not playing anywhere near as well this year which is disappointing.
I dunno Ed. Rapa does some silly things. Flipping the bird for example
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
people are being harsh here. Paulo has been mostly good for us. Was our best forward last year by miles.
he has flaws like he gets too fancy (a lot of that is on coaches order and why sticky signed him in the first place) and is at times lazy in defence especially when he has played big minutes but im happy with what we have got from him. his weight gain at the world cup was disappointing but he wasn't alone there. all three of them came back fatter than they left
of course he's not worth 800k a year. thats big money for a prop when we are so weak in other positions. if parra are crazy enough to offer him a contract that big then what can you do.
He had a really good game last night, but he’s still capable of being a stupid idiot in the last ten minutes of games. Case in point: last night we defend set after set on our line with ten to go and Bateman gets sin-binned. We hold the eels out after (IMO) a dodgy obstruction try gets disallowed, and as we’re rucking the ball out of our own end he throws his riskiest offload in the match, resulting in the eels getting the ball straight back.
And he has a history of doing this in the closing stages of matches, and it HAS cost us the games on several occasions. Just looks so much better when he tucks it under his arm and goes forward, and seems to forget that in the last ten minutes for whatever reason.
The Nickman wrote: ↑April 15, 2018, 8:09 am
He had a really good game last night, but he’s still capable of being a stupid idiot in the last ten minutes of games. Case in point: last night we defend set after set on our line with ten to go and Bateman gets sin-binned. We hold the eels out after (IMO) a dodgy obstruction try gets disallowed, and as we’re rucking the ball out of our own end he throws his riskiest offload in the match, resulting in the eels getting the ball straight back.
And he has a history of doing this in the closing stages of matches, and it HAS cost us the games on several occasions. Just looks so much better when he tucks it under his arm and goes forward, and seems to forget that in the last ten minutes for whatever reason.
I agree with this. Paulo does offer value to any side when on song however his decision making under fatigue is highly questionable. At $600K plus we have to let him walk.
Plus Papalii has found a home in the middle, I still hope we re-sign him.
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑April 15, 2018, 1:18 am
Potentially great prop, but with a loser mentality on and off the park.
Would fit in a Warriors jersey well. All the ability in the world but only goes in half arsed until he feels like it.
C'ya champ. Thanks for the good 3 months of footy a few years back.
Hate to break it to you but the Warriors are 5-1. Or was there another undertone to your comment?
The Warriors are the most hot and cold team in the history of the NRL and are the biggest underachievers in the comp since their arrival, by an absolute mile. Paulo is the same. Could be the best prop in the game, but half the time he ruins his game by throwing ridiculous passes or he runs so half arsed it may as well be Bateman hitting it up.
They are running hot now. Let's see how the year pans out.
As far as Paulo goes, he's as frustrating to watch as anyone I've seen. He's certainly not a leader. The Eels would be nuts to pay such a person that much money.
Seiffert82 wrote: ↑April 15, 2018, 1:18 am
Potentially great prop, but with a loser mentality on and off the park.
Would fit in a Warriors jersey well. All the ability in the world but only goes in half arsed until he feels like it.
C'ya champ. Thanks for the good 3 months of footy a few years back.
Hate to break it to you but the Warriors are 5-1. Or was there another undertone to your comment?
The Warriors are the most hot and cold team in the history of the NRL and are the biggest underachievers in the comp since their arrival, by an absolute mile. Paulo is the same. Could be the best prop in the game, but half the time he ruins his game by throwing ridiculous passes or he runs so half arsed it may as well be Bateman hitting it up.
They are running hot now. Let's see how the year pans out.
As far as Paulo goes, he's as frustrating to watch as anyone I've seen. He's certainly not a leader. The Eels would be nuts to pay such a person that much money.
Even at his hottest I don't rate Paulo in the upper echelon of forwards in the game. His style of play would have been great in the 90s.
They are certainly playing from in front though. So frustrating to think we absolutely should be 4-2.
So who do we spend our money on and who is a realistic option?
Junior Paulo set to head to Parramatta Eels on four year deal worth over $600,000 a season
The under-performing Eels are preparing for a cleanout at the end of the season after paying massive ‘overs’ to sign Raiders prop Junior Paulo for 2019.
Paulo, a Kiwi who began his career at the Eels, is all but done on a four-year deal worth over $600,000 a season - money his current club Canberra simply couldn’t match.
When there's this much noise, it normally means that they are out the door.
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T_R wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 10:14 am
When there's this much noise, it normally means that they are out the door.
There's been "this much noise" for a long time now, and it's been pretty clear to me for almost a year that he just doesn't want to be in Canberra anymore.
Look, here's my thoughts - if we can get Glasby on the cheap I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be.
Boyd remains our #1 prop. I've seen enough of Gubb at Auckland to know he's an above-average prospect so he's #2.
Can we then look at moving Papalli into the middle full time? As he gets older, he's getting bigger and I think it could work - think Sia this year. That just leaves guys like Glasby, Knight and Lui as our 4th through 6th stringers, which all things considered isn't bad.
Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is just the train that's about to hit you.