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Matt wrote:

reptar wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 8:35 pm Couldn't we play a halfback at fullback? And a hooker at halfback? And a bench forward on the bench for 80 minutes?

In the last 4 seasons, im confident Ricky has ticked all those boxes

Matt wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 10:11 pm

RedRaider wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 9:58 pm I hope Cotric will continue to be picked at fullback for the rest of this year. I think he has the goods to be a top flight full back. He is already better under the high ball than Jack imo. This is a key skill for the role. Defensively he is up to the role as well. In attack he was getting more involved last weekend and I hope to see this continue in the coming weeks. As his confidence grows I think we will hear more talk from him which is another skill a fullback needs imo.

As for next year, I think Jack is more likely to find himself in the three quarter line. I have said before that I think BJ has the makings of a back rower. He is big enough and tough enough. He will not have to make as many defensive decisions either. Just tackle what is in front of him. At center he persistently stays out on his opposition center. This leaves a huge hole to his left which is often exploited by opposition sides including Penrith again last weekend. He would not displace any of the current starting International backrowers but would be a very good bench impact player imo.

Be careful with outrageous statements like body typing or playing style RR. People will think youre crazy...

zim wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 10:29 pm

Pigman wrote:

zim wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 8:34 pm

Matt wrote:Surely the Q is,
Williams at half.
Or
Oldie on a wing

That's the Q, well as far as I'm concerned.
I can see the pros and cons either way. But once a decision is made it needs to be stuck to.
Fortunately this seems less impactful than which 2 hookers to use instead of hodgo.
The biggest concern with the Williams / Wighton swap would be the kicking game. Sammy takes a lot of pressure off Sezer, but, our biggest issue is defence.

Wighton will need to improve his kicking game for sure.
I dont think we can bank on Sezer recapturing his Titans form... even i've given up on that, which is a shame, because as primary kicker he was excellent. We'll need a secondary kicker, and honestly it cant be Hodgson. I love the guy and when he picks his spots, he's tremendous as a kicker... but you want him taking 2, maybe 3 a game... so we need a secondary kicker in the halves to ease the pressure on Sezer... it'd help if we ever positioned well to make a good kick too, feels like 1/3 times our kicker, whoever it is, is getting the ball high, low or wide and it throws their motion off.

One option would be to have Havili at lock to free up hodgo on the fifth to provide that extra option on both sides of the ruck but then you need to juggle your international back row around it.

reptar wrote: ↑August 8, 2018, 4:21 am

Matt wrote:

reptar wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 8:35 pm Couldn't we play a halfback at fullback? And a hooker at halfback? And a bench forward on the bench for 80 minutes?

In the last 4 seasons, im confident Ricky has ticked all those boxes

Often in the same game!

RedRaider wrote: ↑August 8, 2018, 5:53 am

Matt wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 10:11 pm

RedRaider wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 9:58 pm I hope Cotric will continue to be picked at fullback for the rest of this year. I think he has the goods to be a top flight full back. He is already better under the high ball than Jack imo. This is a key skill for the role. Defensively he is up to the role as well. In attack he was getting more involved last weekend and I hope to see this continue in the coming weeks. As his confidence grows I think we will hear more talk from him which is another skill a fullback needs imo.

As for next year, I think Jack is more likely to find himself in the three quarter line. I have said before that I think BJ has the makings of a back rower. He is big enough and tough enough. He will not have to make as many defensive decisions either. Just tackle what is in front of him. At center he persistently stays out on his opposition center. This leaves a huge hole to his left which is often exploited by opposition sides including Penrith again last weekend. He would not displace any of the current starting International backrowers but would be a very good bench impact player imo.

Be careful with outrageous statements like body typing or playing style RR. People will think youre crazy...

It's too late Matt, I'm already thought of as crazy and senile. The good thing about senility though, is that in 5 minutes it's a whole new world

gangrenous wrote: ↑August 8, 2018, 6:26 pm I agree with Woodgers except for the part about Jack having the brains to make the right plays, and his spelling of Hingano.

Green eyed Mick wrote:

gangrenous wrote: ↑August 8, 2018, 6:26 pm I agree with Woodgers except for the part about Jack having the brains to make the right plays, and his spelling of Hingano.

I think Jack has a pretty good footy brain.

I'd prefer jack at 6 over any of the currently off contract halves.

Captain Punish wrote:

Green eyed Mick wrote:

gangrenous wrote: ↑August 8, 2018, 6:26 pm I agree with Woodgers except for the part about Jack having the brains to make the right plays, and his spelling of Hingano.

I think Jack has a pretty good footy brain.

I'd prefer jack at 6 over any of the currently off contract halves.

Norman's football intelligence leaves Jack's for dead. Also we saw Jack at 5/8 and he was garbage and we wanted him out.

This has McCrone to hooker written all over it.

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Archer wrote: ↑August 8, 2018, 7:47 am

zim wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 10:29 pm

Pigman wrote:

zim wrote: ↑August 7, 2018, 8:34 pm

Matt wrote:Surely the Q is,
Williams at half.
Or
Oldie on a wing

That's the Q, well as far as I'm concerned.
I can see the pros and cons either way. But once a decision is made it needs to be stuck to.
Fortunately this seems less impactful than which 2 hookers to use instead of hodgo.
The biggest concern with the Williams / Wighton swap would be the kicking game. Sammy takes a lot of pressure off Sezer, but, our biggest issue is defence.

Wighton will need to improve his kicking game for sure.
I dont think we can bank on Sezer recapturing his Titans form... even i've given up on that, which is a shame, because as primary kicker he was excellent. We'll need a secondary kicker, and honestly it cant be Hodgson. I love the guy and when he picks his spots, he's tremendous as a kicker... but you want him taking 2, maybe 3 a game... so we need a secondary kicker in the halves to ease the pressure on Sezer... it'd help if we ever positioned well to make a good kick too, feels like 1/3 times our kicker, whoever it is, is getting the ball high, low or wide and it throws their motion off.

One option would be to have Havili at lock to free up hodgo on the fifth to provide that extra option on both sides of the ruck but then you need to juggle your international back row around it.

What about we just put him at prop and rotate him with Bateman, whichever is on at the time can slot into Hooker like you've said. Also, let's not rule out Rapa for long kicks (40/20ʼs and such) and Whitehead for short kicks. BJ rolled one into the in goal on the weekend too didn't he?

Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 9, 2018, 6:34 pm I've seen nothing in Cotric's game or style that indicates to me he is a long term fullback for the Raiders. Centre or Second Row maybe, but not fullback.

If the club sticks by Wighton, my big home is that he pulls his head in and realises what he needs to do to become a top 5 fullback in the NRL, which is what he absolutely could be if his head was screwed on.

Coastalraider wrote: ↑October 8, 2018, 11:39 am Methinks the Raiders are about to look pretty stupid.

My gut tells me when this is released to public their initial reaction of a 6 week ban is going to look very poor indeed.

SeeBee101 wrote:............And that's our 2019 season gone before it starts.....

SeeBee101 wrote: ↑October 8, 2018, 12:17 pm ............And that's our 2019 season gone before it starts.....

Dusty wrote: ↑October 8, 2018, 1:03 pm Is he still a chance of being sacked?

I don’t believe so, he’s been punished by the NRL and the club (I think?). The only
Punishment left is from the courts. I guess, depending on the punishment, he could be punished further.


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edwahu wrote:No matter what gets shown there will be outrage but what's on the video is pretty clearly described already. Nobody should be too shocked at what it shows when it is released.

Northern Raider wrote: ↑October 8, 2018, 2:22 pm NRL has handed down their punishment. Can't change that due to retrospective public outrage.

kona_dream wrote:

Northern Raider wrote: ↑October 8, 2018, 2:22 pm NRL has handed down their punishment. Can't change that due to retrospective public outrage.

NRL just make stuff on the fly. I could see them saying new information has come to light and we have extended the penalty. I am sure this is part of the reason why the NRL made it 10 weeks in the first place, given we only had 10 weeks to go. They knew he wouldn't be back playing before the court date. I would hope that if this does happen the NRL is question what new information as they had the video etc before they made their decision.

Begbie wrote:Will the NRL let Jack play wearing an ankle bracelet if he is ordered to do so?