edwahu wrote: ↑April 11, 2018, 3:27 pm
Slightly annoying it wont be sorted by June 30.
Not necessarily. Jack's lawyer could negotiate a plea.
You'd think any plea gets him sacked though.
What gets a player sacked in almost all circumstances is the willingness of the club to depart with the player.
If the club thinks they can mitigate the damage I think it will come down to what Sticky wants. Sticky was in the court today and Wighton is back in the side at fullback so I am leaning toward him staying should Wighton avoid serious sanctions.
The club is handling this very well. The NRL is about to let Todd Carney back into the NRL, with Carney now training with the Cowboys. After all the massive damage Todd Carney has done to the reputation of three clubs and the NRL. The NRL is weak as water and does not support teams that discipline players. They have let Matt Lodge back into the NRL, for goodness sake. We need to play by the books and the NRL's rules... and let it play out.
greeneyed wrote: ↑April 11, 2018, 7:08 pm
The club is handling this very well. The NRL is about to let Todd Carney back into the NRL, with Carney now training with the Cowboys. After all the massive damage Todd Carney has done to the reputation of three clubs and the NRL. The NRL is weak as water and does not support teams that discipline players. They have let Matt Lodge back into the NRL, for goodness sake. We need to play by the books and the NRL's rules... and let it play out.
Nailed it. The club needs to do everything possible to help itself because the NRL certainly ain't gonna stick it's neck of for us.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate. John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
greeneyed wrote: ↑April 11, 2018, 7:08 pm
The club is handling this very well. The NRL is about to let Todd Carney back into the NRL, with Carney now training with the Cowboys. After all the massive damage Todd Carney has done to the reputation of three clubs and the NRL. The NRL is weak as water and does not support teams that discipline players. They have let Matt Lodge back into the NRL, for goodness sake. We need to play by the books and the NRL's rules... and let it play out.
Nailed it. The club needs to do everything possible to help itself because the NRL certainly ain't gonna stick it's neck of for us.
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Not necessarily. Jack's lawyer could negotiate a plea.
You'd think any plea gets him sacked though.
What gets a player sacked in almost all circumstances is the willingness of the club to depart with the player.
If the club thinks they can mitigate the damage I think it will come down to what Sticky wants. Sticky was in the court today and Wighton is back in the side at fullback so I am leaning toward him staying should Wighton avoid serious sanctions.
Have any players been found guilty of seriois criminal charges and remained at the same club?
does fraud count?
You talking identity fraud for impersonating a first grade rugby league side?
We'd probably have multiple convictions over that one over the years.
What gets a player sacked in almost all circumstances is the willingness of the club to depart with the player.
If the club thinks they can mitigate the damage I think it will come down to what Sticky wants. Sticky was in the court today and Wighton is back in the side at fullback so I am leaning toward him staying should Wighton avoid serious sanctions.
Have any players been found guilty of seriois criminal charges and remained at the same club?
does fraud count?
You talking identity fraud for impersonating a first grade rugby league side?
We'd probably have multiple convictions over that one over the years.
greeneyed wrote: ↑April 11, 2018, 9:56 pm
I’ve had to edit some posts again tonight. Please don’t post content which suggests anything other than the facts released to date.
greeneyed wrote: ↑April 11, 2018, 9:56 pm
I’ve had to edit some posts again tonight. Please don’t post content which suggests anything other than the facts released to date.
Terrible puns are OK, if they do not allege anything that is outside the facts or anything more than is an allegation or suggest anything other than a presumption of innocence.
Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
greeneyed wrote: ↑April 11, 2018, 11:47 amJack Wighton: Club Statement
Canberra Raiders player Jack Wighton will face ACT Magistrates Court again in July, after pleading not guilty today to charges laid against him following an incident in Canberra in February.
The club will allow Wighton to continue to train and play with the club during this period. As the matter is before the court the Raiders will not be making any further comment on the issue.
The Raiders continue to work with the NRL Integrity unit and have informed them of the latest developments.
Carney (part of the Captains wedding party) only has to visit Canberra and allegations of copycat behavior come out. Jack pleads 'not guilty' to public urination. Sticky may have asked him about team selection, plead 'not guilty' and urin but if you plead guilty then urout.
To quote from the ACT DPP's policy on prosecutions:
There are obvious benefits to the criminal justice system from a plea of guilty. The earlier it is achieved, the greater will be the benefits accruing to the accused, the victim, witnesses and the community. Accordingly, negotiations between the defence and the prosecution are to be encouraged. They may occur at any stage and may be initiated by the prosecution or the defence. Charge negotiations must be based on principle and reason, and not on expediency. A clear record of the negotiations must be kept in the interests of transparency and probity.
A plea of guilty may be accepted following appropriately authorised plea negotiations if the public interest is satisfied on consideration of the following matters:
(a) whether the plea reasonably reflects the essential criminality of the conduct and provides an adequate basis for sentencing;
(b) whether it will save a witness, particularly a victim or other vulnerable witness from the stress of testifying in a trial;
(c) the desirability of prompt and certain dispatch of the case;
(d) the need to avoid delay in the dispatch of other pending cases;
(e) the time and expense involved in a trial and any appeal proceedings;
(f) any deficiencies in the available evidence;
(g) in cases where there has been a financial loss to any person, whether the
defendant has made restitution or arrangements for restitution;
(h) the views of the police or other referring agency; and
(i) the views of the victim, where those views are available and if it is appropriate
to take those views into account.
Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.
Haha I remember in the second half there was a bit of push and shove (I think involving Elliott) and Jack came running in I think just to break it up... my partner yells out “don’t hit anybody Jack!”, made me laugh and laugh
Beejay wrote:Wighton himself has not seen the video.
BJ Mole reports that he can’t remember if he has seen the video or whether he’s confusing it with the first fight scene in the Bourne Identity when two guys approach him whilst sleeping on a park bench.
On reflection, it was Jason Bourne not Jack Wighton.
Canberra Raiders Jack Wighton opens up on family in the midst of uncertain future
Even Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart was unsure how Jack Wighton would cope with the pressure of the NRL and a looming day in court. But the fullback's "two beautiful girls" have been the perfect distraction for one of the most uncertain and toughest periods of his career.
"It’s my world. It’s really what I do this game for, to support them and look after them. It’s a great feeling to be able to go home and [know] they’ll be waiting for me."
Content of the article aside how does a professional organisation, particularly a news publication, get away with basic spelling mistakes. It's become so common in the media.
I'm still surprised the club hasn't put in place some contingency planning to mitigate the risk that Jack might not be available at a crucial time ahead of finals. It's not about pre-judging him or selling him out, it's about being smart. Give Abby a run or start shifting Cotric or Rapana to fullback for 30 minutes or so to start a few combinations and get them ready IF they need to slot in there later in the season. We all hope Jack is in clear and I have no insight of the reported incident to form a view one way or the other. We do know there is a risk he may need to sit out a while and it seems foolish not to start some planning to mitigate that risk.
