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T_R wrote:Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.

I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.

Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
I concur.

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I personally cannot wait til Jack hits the road and he don't come back, no more, no more, no more, no more.

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I don't want to lose Jack. I'd rather the club use this as a bargaining tool to pay him less to keep him here and have him redeem himself. Pay him centre money. This whole thing is just disappointing.


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Captain Punish wrote: April 6, 2018, 10:54 am
T_R wrote:Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.

I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.

Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
I concur.
Sack him. Give him a trainers contract and a proviso to be on the dirty bulk till next season. Bring him back as a lock forward on lock forward money.
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I can understand that if this is bad that the NRL can stand him down and the club can take it upon themselves to dish up further punishment on top such as a sacking.. to me that makes sense.

What I don't understand is if we see the NRL put pressure on the club to sack the player when we all know that within a year we would see him running around on an NRL field doing the exact same thing just in a different coloured jersey.
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T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 10:49 am Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.

I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.

Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
Our back five is definitely overpaid, BJ, Croker and Jack are probably all on FB money. However I think it sends a bad signal to other players if we don't support Jack just because we want to re-balance our cap.
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T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 10:49 am Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.

I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.

Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
I have a funny feeling this is exactly the way the Raiders view it too.
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He needs to stay. Just to piss Lucy off.

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The Nickman wrote: April 6, 2018, 11:01 am
T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 10:49 am Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.

I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.

Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
I have a funny feeling this is exactly the way the Raiders view it too.
If we do follow this path though, do we go for a nearly top tier fullback? Or use the money elsewhere and just let Cotric take FB for his own.
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I wonder what roache would be like at fullback

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hobbsy wrote:
The Nickman wrote: April 6, 2018, 11:01 am
T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 10:49 am Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.

I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.

Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
I have a funny feeling this is exactly the way the Raiders view it too.
If we do follow this path though, do we go for a nearly top tier fullback? Or use the money elsewhere and just let Cotric take FB for his own.
We give half to Tapine, just cause we can and we sign another half to play next to sezer.

We give Cotric the fb and put Nickman on the wing.

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Dr Zaius wrote: April 6, 2018, 11:10 am He needs to stay. Just to piss Lucy off.

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I feel like seizing the opportunity to oust Jack could cause some problems amongst the players. Is he well liked amongst the team? I really don't want to go down this road. I know we all want Cotric or someone to fullback but surely we don't have to lose Jack to achieve that. I mean he didn't kill anyone for Christ's sakes and if your argument is well he COULD HAVE hurt someone or killed them then why the hell did Papalii get off so lightly for drink driving. No one wanted to sack him for that.

This whole thing is ridiculous


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Jokes aside I hope we hold on to him, but I also hope we are able to adjust his contract.
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Unless he has seriously injured the other people in the fight (or they are female, elderly, disabled, barbershop quartet, etc). I can’t see how this becomes a sackable offence.

Minor fisticuffs are a dime a dozen between young blokes in Civic. Is this only serious because of Jacks profile or did he actually do some physical damage to his opponents.
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BJ wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:14 pm Unless he has seriously injured the other people in the fight (or they are female, elderly, disabled, barbershop quartet, etc). I can’t see how this becomes a sackable offence.

Minor fisticuffs are a dime a dozen between young blokes in Civic. Is this only serious because of Jacks profile or did he actually do some physical damage to his opponents.
I certainly don't wish ill on Wighton, but a headline of "NRL Star in Barbershop Quartet Melee" would make my day.

If the Raiders cut Wighton for this, it's because they want him off the books.
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dreaming09 wrote: April 6, 2018, 10:24 am This might be the issue RS and management are at loggerheads. RS wants to keep Jack and management want him gone.
If this is true, management need to pull their heads in. They have to let the police and if charged the courts do their job.
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T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:31 pm
BJ wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:14 pm Unless he has seriously injured the other people in the fight (or they are female, elderly, disabled, barbershop quartet, etc). I can’t see how this becomes a sackable offence.

Minor fisticuffs are a dime a dozen between young blokes in Civic. Is this only serious because of Jacks profile or did he actually do some physical damage to his opponents.
I certainly don't wish ill on Wighton, but a headline of "NRL Star in Barbershop Quartet Melee" would make my day.
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The only way I see Wighton being sacked would be if he coward punched someone in that brawl. Otherwise it might be a good chance to re-evaluate his contract and move him into a lock or centre role.
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SeeBee101 wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:59 pm The only way I see Wighton being sacked would be if he coward punched someone in that brawl. Otherwise it might be a good chance to re-evaluate his contract and move him into a lock or centre role.
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Reason: Sorry, but that is speculation about a matter subject to possible legal proceedings.
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EDIT. I'll let it all come out in the open before I make any judgements.


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Sorry all... a quick reminder that in these sorts of cases, we need to stick to facts as reported in mainstream media... rather than speculate.
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Agreed.


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The Nickman wrote: April 6, 2018, 1:02 pm
SeeBee101 wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:59 pm The only way I see Wighton being sacked would be if he coward punched someone in that brawl. Otherwise it might be a good chance to re-evaluate his contract and move him into a lock or centre role.
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Finchy wrote: April 6, 2018, 2:26 pm
The Nickman wrote: April 6, 2018, 1:02 pm
SeeBee101 wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:59 pm The only way I see Wighton being sacked would be if he coward punched someone in that brawl. Otherwise it might be a good chance to re-evaluate his contract and move him into a lock or centre role.
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You want Jack shot out of a cannon now too?

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Schifty wrote:
T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:31 pm
BJ wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:14 pm Unless he has seriously injured the other people in the fight (or they are female, elderly, disabled, barbershop quartet, etc). I can’t see how this becomes a sackable offence.

Minor fisticuffs are a dime a dozen between young blokes in Civic. Is this only serious because of Jacks profile or did he actually do some physical damage to his opponents.
I certainly don't wish ill on Wighton, but a headline of "NRL Star in Barbershop Quartet Melee" would make my day.
Joel Monaghan's dog encounter and Todd Carney's watersports adventures haven't been enough for you?

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I want a barber shop quartet melee

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T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 4:03 pm
Schifty wrote:
T_R wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:31 pm
BJ wrote: April 6, 2018, 12:14 pm Unless he has seriously injured the other people in the fight (or they are female, elderly, disabled, barbershop quartet, etc). I can’t see how this becomes a sackable offence.

Minor fisticuffs are a dime a dozen between young blokes in Civic. Is this only serious because of Jacks profile or did he actually do some physical damage to his opponents.
I certainly don't wish ill on Wighton, but a headline of "NRL Star in Barbershop Quartet Melee" would make my day.
Joel Monaghan's dog encounter and Todd Carney's watersports adventures haven't been enough for you?

How much do you want from this club!
I want a barber shop quartet melee

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Why would it take so long to lay charges?

It doesnt sound like a complicated "crime"

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Review footage, witness statements, victim statements

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The altercation alone does not seem worthy of a sacking offence.

I think he should be stood down for a period of time - however to sack someone who then ends up playing for another club is getting ridiculous.

Why are the Raiders the lone rangers in holding players to what the public hold as a moral high ground?
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Jack Wighton's Canberra Raiders future hinging on investigation

Canberra Raiders fullback Jack Wighton's immediate playing future hinges on the outcome of the ACT Policing investigation into a Civic brawl, which is likely to be finalised next week.

Further details have emerged of the alleged involvement of the Raiders star in three assaults outside Canberra nightclub Academy five weeks before the start of the NRL season. Melbourne Storm fullback Scott Drinkwater has been linked as potential cover for Wighton.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-l ... 4z85o.html
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By the way, I've had to delete further posts just now from this thread... posts need to stick to what is publicly reported. We don't want posts reporting "stories" people have heard. Please stick to the facts of what is reported in the mainstream media in cases like these, thanks. We can't have allegations made about what happened... which are unsubstantiated... when this is the subject of a police investigation and a possible legal proceeding.
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Sounds like a bit of a rampage if it was 4 seperste incidents as the article implies.

Also Scott Drinkwater? That would be an odd signing, not sure we need any more cover.
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edwahu wrote: April 6, 2018, 7:07 pm Sounds like a bit of a rampage if it was 4 seperste incidents as the article implies.

Also Scott Drinkwater? That would be an odd signing, not sure we need any more cover.
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