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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
No charges are even laid and if they are he will play until the court case is done, which is probably 6 months away.
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But what will the charges be? From the information provided so far he had a little fight and no one was badly injured or killed and the integrity unit was notified immediately. A few weeks tops suspension and maybe a fine.
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Ricky's favorite so either way Jack still gets paid.
IF guilty than sit him out for a bit. Not happy at his pay rate but no advantage to us in sacking him - except I guess we can get an actual fullback.
IF guilty than sit him out for a bit. Not happy at his pay rate but no advantage to us in sacking him - except I guess we can get an actual fullback.
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
Didn't Kirisome Auva'a continue to play all the way through until his court appearance for domestic violence? I could be wrong but that is my recollection. Same should apply here for what sounds like a lesser offence?
There are many examples of the league giving players the chance to have their day in court first (if it gets to that in this instance).
There are many examples of the league giving players the chance to have their day in court first (if it gets to that in this instance).
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I thought Semi Radradra played all the way through his. Although his charges were eventually dropped.Wiki Special wrote: ↑April 5, 2018, 11:07 pm Didn't Kirisome Auva'a continue to play all the way through until his court appearance for domestic violence? I could be wrong but that is my recollection. Same should apply here for what sounds like a lesser offence?
There are many examples of the league giving players the chance to have their day in court first (if it gets to that in this instance).
Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
Even if no one was injured our killed, the nature of the fight and specifically how he was involved could play a big part. I have absolutely no idea what happened in this case and am not trying to insinuate he is guilty of anything, but the NRL could easily come down hard on someone if they were involved in a king hit style incident. Public backlash would be big if they were lenient on something like that.
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from what i've heard is that he's in a bit of trouble, but no one was hospitalised/seriously hurt. i guess it's a wait and see though.
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Bottom line - if Lodge is allowed to play, Wighton would need to have done something pretty outrageous to be rubbed out
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If the nrl get involved and make us sack jack i will be furious
I dont know what he did and i dont know why if it is so bad he is getting charged its taken 3 months to do
But if
1 lodge can play
2 radradra played after he was charged and until they managed to magically get the charges dropped
3 hayne can play with thr case in america
4 pearce can play (monnas was sent packing to the uk)
5 dugan , fergo etc all are playing
And we have to sack jack then greenberg better block me on twitter!
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I dont know what he did and i dont know why if it is so bad he is getting charged its taken 3 months to do
But if
1 lodge can play
2 radradra played after he was charged and until they managed to magically get the charges dropped
3 hayne can play with thr case in america
4 pearce can play (monnas was sent packing to the uk)
5 dugan , fergo etc all are playing
And we have to sack jack then greenberg better block me on twitter!
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A big fall from grace from the support given to him at the judiciary 2016
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Second this 100%.cat wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 12:11 am If the nrl get involved and make us sack jack i will be furious
I dont know what he did and i dont know why if it is so bad he is getting charged its taken 3 months to do
But if
1 lodge can play
2 radradra played after he was charged and until they managed to magically get the charges dropped
3 hayne can play with thr case in america
4 pearce can play (monnas was sent packing to the uk)
5 dugan , fergo etc all are playing
And we have to sack jack then greenberg better block me on twitter!
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
To be fair re: Lodge, he did get sacked by the Tigers at the time of the incident, and has only been allowed to play 2 years later, so we aren't the only club that these "redemption stories" happen to.
Also, did Kent actually say the NRL would make us sack him? Or just that they would stand him down and there would be 'pressure' on us to do so? It seems to me as though the option would be there if he was stood down to just keep him around until such time as the NRL decides they will register him again, but I don't know if he's the type of player you hold a spot for with the amount of money he is reportedly on.
Also, did Kent actually say the NRL would make us sack him? Or just that they would stand him down and there would be 'pressure' on us to do so? It seems to me as though the option would be there if he was stood down to just keep him around until such time as the NRL decides they will register him again, but I don't know if he's the type of player you hold a spot for with the amount of money he is reportedly on.
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Also, Dugan broke no laws and the raiders sacked him, so why should the nrl intervene?hobbsy wrote:To be fair re: Lodge, he did get sacked by the Tigers at the time of the incident, and has only been allowed to play 2 years later, so we aren't the only club that these "redemption stories" happen to.
Also, did Kent actually say the NRL would make us sack him? Or just that they would stand him down and there would be 'pressure' on us to do so? It seems to me as though the option would be there if he was stood down to just keep him around until such time as the NRL decides they will register him again, but I don't know if he's the type of player you hold a spot for with the amount of money he is reportedly on.
I’m pretty sure Ferguson served some time away from the game too, probably while he was with us.
And Mitchell Pearce DEFINITELY served 6 weeks, and I thought that was a little harsh, and what he did was in no way, shape or form the same as Joel Monaghan
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Paul Kent expects Jack Wighton to be charged over fight, Canberra Raiders could sack him
JACK Wighton missed the Raiders’ win over the Bulldogs amid an off-field storm as police investigate a Canberra fight that the star fullback was allegedly involved in.
“I think very soon charges will be laid and I think things are pretty grim there, I think the NRL will stand him down for the season and the Raiders might end up sacking him,” Kent said.
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“(His salary) counts (in the cap) up until he’s been paid,” Kent said.
Jackie boi always gets paid
No chance he is sacked. If Ricky brought the potential signing of Carney to the board it shows integrity isn't an integral trait, and Wighton is "like a son" in his words.
JACK Wighton missed the Raiders’ win over the Bulldogs amid an off-field storm as police investigate a Canberra fight that the star fullback was allegedly involved in.
“I think very soon charges will be laid and I think things are pretty grim there, I think the NRL will stand him down for the season and the Raiders might end up sacking him,” Kent said.
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“(His salary) counts (in the cap) up until he’s been paid,” Kent said.
Jackie boi always gets paid
No chance he is sacked. If Ricky brought the potential signing of Carney to the board it shows integrity isn't an integral trait, and Wighton is "like a son" in his words.
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Would Kent report that he’s about to be sacked if it wasn’t true though? Paul Kent and Ricky Stuart are good mates, and Kenty isn’t usually far off the mark with his scoops
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I guess it depends if Ricky's hold over the club may have been compromised by the past year and a half. It could explain the divided team that turned out in Manly last weekend if there is truth to it.
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Well I guess we’ll see, but when I heard this rumour before Round 1 the story then was that he wasn’t going to play a game in 2018, so there’s some pretty strong smoke here that what he did is pretty bad
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
I guess I find it hard to believe he'd be selected for 4 matches after the incident and then sacked.
From a purely football basis I think it would be good for the club though. Invested so much in him over the years and outside of 2016 he has been a very inconsistent performer. With the exception of Rapana and Cotric that could be said of our entire squad outside of 2016 though
From a purely football basis I think it would be good for the club though. Invested so much in him over the years and outside of 2016 he has been a very inconsistent performer. With the exception of Rapana and Cotric that could be said of our entire squad outside of 2016 though
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I'll be disappointed if we sack him. I think he's a good player just not what we need in a fullback.
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No way we will sack him IMO, Cotric went ok at fullback but pretty much everything he did well he can and does do from the wing, I don't see Cotric as a better longterm fullback option than Wighton, he's an outside back IMO
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I agree. Cotric wasn't tested under a single high ball. Maybe caught out of position a little less often as Wighton.kiwi raider wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:33 am No way we will sack him IMO, Cotric went ok at fullback but pretty much everything he did well he can and does do from the wing, I don't see Cotric as a better longterm fullback option than Wighton, he's an outside back IMO
No point in talking about whether he'll be sacked until details (or the CCTV footage) are released.
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100% chaps. I saw plenty of Cotric in the Jr grades. An NRL fullback he is not. You must be a ball player at that level. Cotric was a FB or centre in the juniors. He played FB because of his speed and size. Big kids always rule the playground.yurithe1 wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:54 amI agree. Cotric wasn't tested under a single high ball. Maybe caught out of position a little less often as Wighton.kiwi raider wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:33 am No way we will sack him IMO, Cotric went ok at fullback but pretty much everything he did well he can and does do from the wing, I don't see Cotric as a better longterm fullback option than Wighton, he's an outside back IMO
No point in talking about whether he'll be sacked until details (or the CCTV footage) are released.
The Elite FB are all ball players - Teddy, Slater, Ponga, Turbo, RTS (better ball runner though), Hayne is/ was, GI is/ was. Then there are the teams trying to get one, Mbye has moved there coz Hoppa cant pass, Lolohea, Coote, Gutherson (once he returns from injury).
Jack was a 5/8 or centre in Jr grades. So he has that ball playing ability. Look at him attack on the sweep play. I'm not sure anyone in the NRL is executing like he is on that play ATM. Anyone that thinks Jack has been a problem for us at all this yr are only seeing what they want to see. He was our best player in the first month, followed by Whitehead and Boyd. He was the only bloke that showed up against Manly.
As for what happens from here... who knows?!?
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
Kent plays very much with a straight bat - if he says he is gone I’m inclined to believe himThe Nickman wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:09 am Would Kent report that he’s about to be sacked if it wasn’t true though? Paul Kent and Ricky Stuart are good mates, and Kenty isn’t usually far off the mark with his scoops
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Getting sacked and redeemed is turning into a legitimate career path for players.
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Or at least he legitimately thinks he's gone. Not just blowing smoke for the sake of it.scotchberry wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 9:24 amKent plays very much with a straight bat - if he says he is gone I’m inclined to believe himThe Nickman wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:09 am Would Kent report that he’s about to be sacked if it wasn’t true though? Paul Kent and Ricky Stuart are good mates, and Kenty isn’t usually far off the mark with his scoops
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If the NRL put pressure on the raiders (or any other team for that matter) to sack a player, it should come with a guarantee that they will not have a contract registered within X time period (depending on the offence).
I'm sick of us taking the moral high ground and getting screwed over by head office when they allow these blokes to sign for other clubs after a month of counselling or whatever.
There should be a standard approach to sacking players for off field indiscresions. Automatic 12 month ban from the NRL. if you want to come back after 12 months, the team that sacked you has first option on the signing, if they don't want you, or you don't want them, you sit out for another 12 months and then you're a free agent... end of.
At least that way clubs won't be punished for doing the right thing and players will no their are legitimate consequences to their actions
I'm sick of us taking the moral high ground and getting screwed over by head office when they allow these blokes to sign for other clubs after a month of counselling or whatever.
There should be a standard approach to sacking players for off field indiscresions. Automatic 12 month ban from the NRL. if you want to come back after 12 months, the team that sacked you has first option on the signing, if they don't want you, or you don't want them, you sit out for another 12 months and then you're a free agent... end of.
At least that way clubs won't be punished for doing the right thing and players will no their are legitimate consequences to their actions
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
If we don't want to sack him but the NRL de-registers him anyway, then we should have to have first rights on his contract if he is registered again. However if he is just banned and we choose to sack him that's bad luck to us.
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Cotric has had one game at fullback and if Wighton is gone our only backup is Abbey and I'd really rather not go down that road. If Wighton got two years to play fullback I feel like Cotric should get a chance too. He can develop his game and he looks better defensively from what I saw from a positional sense and that's what we need right now.
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This might be the issue RS and management are at loggerheads. RS wants to keep Jack and management want him gone.
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Agree he was good in those 4 games, only complaint really is his positioning defending kicks still isn't there.Matt wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 9:19 am100% chaps. I saw plenty of Cotric in the Jr grades. An NRL fullback he is not. You must be a ball player at that level. Cotric was a FB or centre in the juniors. He played FB because of his speed and size. Big kids always rule the playground.yurithe1 wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:54 amI agree. Cotric wasn't tested under a single high ball. Maybe caught out of position a little less often as Wighton.kiwi raider wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:33 am No way we will sack him IMO, Cotric went ok at fullback but pretty much everything he did well he can and does do from the wing, I don't see Cotric as a better longterm fullback option than Wighton, he's an outside back IMO
No point in talking about whether he'll be sacked until details (or the CCTV footage) are released.
The Elite FB are all ball players - Teddy, Slater, Ponga, Turbo, RTS (better ball runner though), Hayne is/ was, GI is/ was. Then there are the teams trying to get one, Mbye has moved there coz Hoppa cant pass, Lolohea, Coote, Gutherson (once he returns from injury).
Jack was a 5/8 or centre in Jr grades. So he has that ball playing ability. Look at him attack on the sweep play. I'm not sure anyone in the NRL is executing like he is on that play ATM. Anyone that thinks Jack has been a problem for us at all this yr are only seeing what they want to see. He was our best player in the first month, followed by Whitehead and Boyd. He was the only bloke that showed up against Manly.
As for what happens from here... who knows?!?
That said, it's the story of his career. A handful of really solid games flanked by a handful where he goes missing.
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Is his positional play a result of him not having confidence in the defensive line though? he's usually out of position after making a last ditch cover tackle from what i've seen... Cotric didn't have to worry about that last night which may be why he seemed to be in position more often then not..... it could be down to jack, but just saying that there may be another cause to considerRoger Kenworthy wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 10:37 amAgree he was good in those 4 games, only complaint really is his positioning defending kicks still isn't there.Matt wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 9:19 am100% chaps. I saw plenty of Cotric in the Jr grades. An NRL fullback he is not. You must be a ball player at that level. Cotric was a FB or centre in the juniors. He played FB because of his speed and size. Big kids always rule the playground.yurithe1 wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:54 amI agree. Cotric wasn't tested under a single high ball. Maybe caught out of position a little less often as Wighton.kiwi raider wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:33 am No way we will sack him IMO, Cotric went ok at fullback but pretty much everything he did well he can and does do from the wing, I don't see Cotric as a better longterm fullback option than Wighton, he's an outside back IMO
No point in talking about whether he'll be sacked until details (or the CCTV footage) are released.
The Elite FB are all ball players - Teddy, Slater, Ponga, Turbo, RTS (better ball runner though), Hayne is/ was, GI is/ was. Then there are the teams trying to get one, Mbye has moved there coz Hoppa cant pass, Lolohea, Coote, Gutherson (once he returns from injury).
Jack was a 5/8 or centre in Jr grades. So he has that ball playing ability. Look at him attack on the sweep play. I'm not sure anyone in the NRL is executing like he is on that play ATM. Anyone that thinks Jack has been a problem for us at all this yr are only seeing what they want to see. He was our best player in the first month, followed by Whitehead and Boyd. He was the only bloke that showed up against Manly.
As for what happens from here... who knows?!?
That said, it's the story of his career. A handful of really solid games flanked by a handful where he goes missing.
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Cotric is 19, has been stuck out of position on the wing (where he can't pass a lot) and has actually shown a great ability in limited opportunities to set up his centre and pass appropriately after a break etc.
After 1 game at fullback, given the aplomb he's done everything else with (remember him dropping a bomb or a grubber as a winger? I don't) and his age you reckon he can't develop, improve or possess a passing game. I reckon you're wrong.
After 1 game at fullback, given the aplomb he's done everything else with (remember him dropping a bomb or a grubber as a winger? I don't) and his age you reckon he can't develop, improve or possess a passing game. I reckon you're wrong.
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Honestly, for what we are apparently paying Wighton, we could potentially land a very-nearly top tier fullback.
I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.
Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
I like the fact that we have a local junior in the team, but we're honestly paying the guy on potential that I doubt he will ever fulfill. I think we're also paying a centre on FB money, which is insane.
Wanna be a bit cold? This is a good opportunity to cut an overpriced and underperforming player.
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I'd say it definitely doesn't help. Cotric really didn't have to help much in the D line whereas in the first few rounds Jack saved our skins multiple times.Dibbers wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 10:42 amIs his positional play a result of him not having confidence in the defensive line though? he's usually out of position after making a last ditch cover tackle from what i've seen... Cotric didn't have to worry about that last night which may be why he seemed to be in position more often then not..... it could be down to jack, but just saying that there may be another cause to considerRoger Kenworthy wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 10:37 amAgree he was good in those 4 games, only complaint really is his positioning defending kicks still isn't there.Matt wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 9:19 am100% chaps. I saw plenty of Cotric in the Jr grades. An NRL fullback he is not. You must be a ball player at that level. Cotric was a FB or centre in the juniors. He played FB because of his speed and size. Big kids always rule the playground.yurithe1 wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:54 amI agree. Cotric wasn't tested under a single high ball. Maybe caught out of position a little less often as Wighton.kiwi raider wrote: ↑April 6, 2018, 8:33 am No way we will sack him IMO, Cotric went ok at fullback but pretty much everything he did well he can and does do from the wing, I don't see Cotric as a better longterm fullback option than Wighton, he's an outside back IMO
No point in talking about whether he'll be sacked until details (or the CCTV footage) are released.
The Elite FB are all ball players - Teddy, Slater, Ponga, Turbo, RTS (better ball runner though), Hayne is/ was, GI is/ was. Then there are the teams trying to get one, Mbye has moved there coz Hoppa cant pass, Lolohea, Coote, Gutherson (once he returns from injury).
Jack was a 5/8 or centre in Jr grades. So he has that ball playing ability. Look at him attack on the sweep play. I'm not sure anyone in the NRL is executing like he is on that play ATM. Anyone that thinks Jack has been a problem for us at all this yr are only seeing what they want to see. He was our best player in the first month, followed by Whitehead and Boyd. He was the only bloke that showed up against Manly.
As for what happens from here... who knows?!?
That said, it's the story of his career. A handful of really solid games flanked by a handful where he goes missing.
It's not all down to that but it's not something we can compare them on at the moment. Cotric had a very easy game defensively and if he's going to provide a big POD between him and jack then that's where it'll need to be in the short term because the fitness (especially) and attack aren't there in the short term.
Going to be great to see how this ends up.
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Re: Canberra Raiders star Jack Wighton in alleged nightclub fight
Look, if we can move him on I think it's good for the club. Ricky thinks he's a far better player then he actually is, so it'll clear the decks for a better footballer.
But in a world where Matt Lodge and Russell Packer are allowed to play football, it's ridiculous that he wouldn't be.
But in a world where Matt Lodge and Russell Packer are allowed to play football, it's ridiculous that he wouldn't be.
Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is just the train that's about to hit you.