Time for a different approach to recruiting?

BigPapa · Post by **BigPapa** » March 31, 2018, 9:03 pm

It's no secret we have a hard time recruiting star players here without paying overs for them. I think we might be better off taking a punt at paying overs for younger players touted as the next big thing (eg Knights with Ponga). Risky business but we seem to be going around in circles atm thoughts?

Damoni · Post by **Damoni** » March 31, 2018, 9:15 pm

Do you own a brain?

Milford.......

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MS_1302 · Post by **MS_1302** » March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm

There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » March 31, 2018, 9:23 pm

We did that with Tapine and Jnr. I don't see us getting a spine player though.

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » March 31, 2018, 9:27 pm

MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't

MS_1302 · Post by **MS_1302** » March 31, 2018, 9:28 pm

edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't

Ok

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BigPapa · Post by **BigPapa** » March 31, 2018, 9:29 pm

Damoni wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:15 pm Do you own a brain?

Milford.......

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No I don't I'm happy with the way the club is going. I said recruiting not trying to keep players that were already here you idiot.

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » March 31, 2018, 9:31 pm

Let’s try recruiting some players with intelligence and good decision making.

Be a change worth trying.

Post by **-GD-** » March 31, 2018, 9:35 pm

edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't

Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.

MS_1302 · Post by **MS_1302** » March 31, 2018, 9:36 pm

-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.

Thank you

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-TW- · Post by **-TW-** » March 31, 2018, 9:36 pm

-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.

Big as in tall or fat?

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » March 31, 2018, 9:36 pm

Spoiler...

.... it’s Junior Paulo

Lucy · Post by **Lucy** » March 31, 2018, 9:36 pm

-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.

Are we bringing back Josh McCrone?

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MS_1302 · Post by **MS_1302** » March 31, 2018, 9:37 pm

It could be the biggest one we’ve had in years

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Post by **-GD-** » March 31, 2018, 9:37 pm

Captain Punish wrote:
-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.
Are we bringing back Josh McCrone?

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I’d take him back!

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » March 31, 2018, 9:38 pm

Don’t need more clues mate. I just revealed it’s Paulo.

reptar · Post by **reptar** » March 31, 2018, 9:39 pm

Is it Brad Drew?

Kryptonite · Post by **Kryptonite** » March 31, 2018, 9:40 pm

Its no the players its the coaching staff ****, lets try recruiting a decent coaching staff instead of jobs for old boys likd Brett xxxxxx White as an example, and look no further than the role of head coach, Furner, Stuart, whos next, Loz ****?

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » March 31, 2018, 9:42 pm

MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:37 pm It could be the biggest one we’ve had in years

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Our biggest signing in 30 years was Brett White or Shillo.

I'll be pleasantly flabbergasted if we sign a real star player, especially with none off contract.

Post by **T_R** » March 31, 2018, 9:46 pm

" Matt Orford: Redemption " Its got made for television movie written all over it. Bring it on

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MS_1302 · Post by **MS_1302** » March 31, 2018, 9:47 pm

edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:37 pm It could be the biggest one we’ve had in years

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Our biggest signing in 30 years was Brett White or Shillo.

I'll be pleasantly flabbergasted if we sign a real star player, especially with none off contract.

We are in a time of optimism - what could be worse than what we have? Like us all I hope it ends up being someone game changing. Let’s just wait and see when it happens

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LP Raider · Post by **LP Raider** » March 31, 2018, 9:52 pm

So who's off contract, in anycase who's going to partner this big name signing.

All three of Williams, Sezer and Austin need to go.

Raider of d Lost Ark · Post by **Raider of d Lost Ark** » March 31, 2018, 9:52 pm

-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.

Carney

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LastRaider · Post by **LastRaider** » March 31, 2018, 9:56 pm

Raider of d Lost Ark wrote:
-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.

Carney

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If only we threw everything we had at James Maloney last year. He wanted big money and he was worth it. Would have been a different story if we had him in the team this year

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edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » March 31, 2018, 9:59 pm

LP Raider wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:52 pm So who's off contract, in anycase who's going to partner this big name signing.

All three of Williams, Sezer and Austin need to go.

https://www.zerotackle.com/rugby-league ... tion-2018/

There are zero decent halves off contract. We could maybe force an early release for someone like Norman, Reynolds or at a miraculous stretch Munster.

Hingano or Bambling would partner them.

rayden83 · Post by **rayden83** » March 31, 2018, 10:05 pm

If we are going to pay overs for a player might as well be a half back, sicne that is the major thorn in our side for over a decade. Doesnt have to be a Cronk or Thurston, why dont our talent scouts identify an up and coming player who is desperate for a crack in the NRL? If not here why not try England? Solved our hooker problem didnt it?

If we throw enough mud at the wall eventually something it will stick, the problem is signing mediocre like Sezer players to long term contracts, which denies opportunities for younger better players to have a crack in the NRL

Schifty · Post by **Schifty** » March 31, 2018, 10:18 pm

Time for a different approach and start playing home games in Moscow.

#ImNotaSpy

Ruben Daley · Post by **Ruben Daley** » March 31, 2018, 10:25 pm

Ricky plucked Hodgo and Elliott out of nowhere - two excellent buys no one else even considered. One who is a top two player in a spine position.
He also brought back Soliola from the ESL - another astute call.
He stole Austin for peanuts, who was the best 5/8th in the comp the following year.
He grabbed Sezer too - the best established half we’ve signed possibly ever.
He convinced Paulo to leave Parra, admittedly while he was having off-field issues, but also while he was seen as a future Origin player.
He brought in BJ who was the best centre in the comp the following year.

Now obviously we're having this conversation because things aren’t working out. No one is happy with the halves. Others are unhappy with some of those other guys. But, objectively, that is a very good list of recruits. Don’t think we paid overs to sign any of them and we definitely money-balled a few of them.

Sure, we need new guys again now in some positions but I don’t know if it’s fair to say Ricky’s previous recruitment was poor or the wrong strategy. Reckon it was actually extremely good and very clever for the most part (FPN aside). Just didn’t pan out.

cat · Post by **cat** » March 31, 2018, 10:34 pm

Guys we cant get the big players. Our salary cap isnt as stretchy as some unnamed clubs

We dont have the 3rd party deals other clubs have
We dont have brown paper bags or any other shonky deal. We are so squeaky clean we squeak as we walk.

We are batting well above our weight and for what ever reason (ok its the love greenberg has for ricky) we regularly get the spikey end of the pineapple in all kinds of ways

Yes tonight we didnt have a great dig at first but hey im still proud to wear my jersey.

Ricky recruits the best we have had for a long time and has a lot of barriers against him

You want change on our recruiting? Start bombarding greenberg and co to make it a fair field dont have a go at the team

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Northern Raider · Post by **Northern Raider** » March 31, 2018, 10:35 pm

Let’s not forget we signed Tedesco till he flipped on us.

Lucy · Post by **Lucy** » March 31, 2018, 10:35 pm

Ruben Daley wrote:Ricky plucked Hodgo and Elliott out of nowhere - two excellent buys no one else even considered. One who is a top two player in a spine position.
He also brought back Soliola from the ESL - another astute call.
He stole Austin for peanuts, who was the best 5/8th in the comp the following year.
He grabbed Sezer too - the best established half we’ve signed possibly ever.
He convinced Paulo to leave Parra, admittedly while he was having off-field issues, but also while he was seen as a future Origin player.
He brought in BJ who was the best centre in the comp the following year.

Now obviously we're having this conversation because things aren’t working out. No one is happy with the halves. Others are unhappy with some of those other guys. But, objectively, that is a very good list of recruits. Don’t think we paid overs to sign any of them and we definitely money-balled a few of them.

Sure, we need new guys again now in some positions but I don’t know if it’s fair to say Ricky’s previous recruitment was poor or the wrong strategy. Reckon it was actually extremely good and very clever for the most part (FPN aside). Just didn’t pan out.

I'd say his purchases were great.

It's the lack of any form of coaching nous, interchange use, team building, leadership and knowledge of how to develop players after the first year of coaching them that is the issue.

Stuart is the problem. He is no longer the solution. The fact this is just a rinse and repeat of every other club he has coached is laughable. The fact he still holds a job is laughable. The fact he still thinks he offers anything is laughable.

I hate him.

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FROG · Post by **FROG** » April 1, 2018, 5:27 am

I don't hate the man. But if he truly cares about the jumper about as half as much as he says he does, then surely he must fall on his sword if we don't turn it around over the next month, which are all very winnable games...

BigPapa · Post by **BigPapa** » April 1, 2018, 6:47 am

This is the NYC 2017 team of the year not sure of their contract situations but imo this is our best bet at signing future stars.

1. Kalyn Ponga
2. Sione Katoa
3. Phillip Sami
4. Jesse Ramien
5. Greg Leleisiuao
6. Alex Brinson
7. Kyle Flanagan
8. Patrick Carrigan
9. Wade Egan
10. Payne Hass
11. Briton Nikora
12. Jack Murchie
13. Billy Magoulias

14. Victor Radley
15. Blayke Brailey
16. Reed Izzard
17. Jake Clifford

-PJ- · Post by **-PJ-** » April 1, 2018, 6:53 am

BigPapa wrote: ↑April 1, 2018, 6:47 am This is the NYC 2017 team of the year not sure of their contract situations but imo this is our best bet at signing future stars.

1. Kalyn Ponga
2. Sione Katoa
3. Phillip Sami
4. Jesse Ramien
5. Greg Leleisiuao
6. Alex Brinson
7. Kyle Flanagan
8. Patrick Carrigan
9. Wade Egan
10. Payne Hass
11. Briton Nikora
12. Jack Murchie
13. Billy Magoulias

14. Victor Radley
15. Blayke Brailey
16. Reed Izzard
17. Jake Clifford

Jack Murchie goes alright, let's sign him.

KingDynamite · Post by **KingDynamite** » April 1, 2018, 7:17 am

Captain Punish wrote:
-GD- wrote:
edwahu wrote:
MS_1302 wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 9:21 pm There’s a big one coming - I don’t think anyone would be disappointed

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No there isn't
Rothfield has in the Sunday Tele we have someone big lined up to replace Austin and Sezer.
Are we bringing back Josh McCrone?

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Repeated falcons might be just what our forwards need!