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Schifty wrote: Overall he has had a better roster, better luck with injuries and much more beyond the scenes investment.
Credit where it’s due, don’t think the better run with injuries is luck.
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Schifty wrote:As it stands we are super good chance of making the finals once in five years under Stuart.

Even Furner had a better record than that. In fact we were actually in the 8 heading into the last seven or so games before Milford left , Fergo didn't show up for a match in favour of Parmis with Carney and we proceeded to completely fall apart.

Overall he has had a better roster, better luck with injuries and much more beyond the scenes investment.

If Hingano hasn't been training in the halves that is downright embarrassment as pretty much the only advantage of having a half on the bench as a reserve hooker is that he can slot into the halves of the number 6 or 7 get injured!
It is telling that Furner has a better finals record that Stick
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gangrenous wrote:
Schifty wrote: Overall he has had a better roster, better luck with injuries and much more beyond the scenes investment.
Credit where it’s due, don’t think the better run with injuries is luck.
Part of it is, part of it is being given more resources and support staff.
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We fired the CEO’s brother, we shouldn’t have any problem firing Ricky Stuart. If there has been something that has eased my disappointment in this years losses, it is that if we don’t make the 8 there will be insurmountable pressure on Ricky from the very least, the media. Would love to see favourite son Maguire back in the green


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The thing is, the club will see that we are doing ok cause we barley get absolutely flogged these days, we are competitive in the majority of games, we are just a dumb frustrating team.
There were some really bad thrashing’s that Furner had that Sticky probably hasn’t had since his first year.


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EVH wrote:We fired the CEO’s brother, we shouldn’t have any problem firing Ricky Stuart. If there has been something that has eased my disappointment in this years losses, it is that if we don’t make the 8 there will be insurmountable pressure on Ricky from the very least, the media. Would love to see favourite son Maguire back in the green


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What do we think of Laurie Daley as coach?


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I think i'd like not to spend years disparaging a third hero from my youth. I had fond memories of Dave and Stick, Stick in particular was my childhood hero. I hate how much he annoys me
I loved Dave...

hopefully in time the pair of them will settle back in the Mal role of forgetting how terrible they were as coaches and my thoughts will be entirely about what tremendous footballers they were and what they contributed to this team as players

I could do with a break from that dance. I'd love not to have to wrestle with my thoughts on Laurie Daley

Also, we've gone to the former player well too many times now. Can we just get a new face, fresh ideas into the joint? My preference, as is well established, anyone who cant point to QBN on a map
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Toovey... It's ridiculous!

Will never coach another NRL team.
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Pigman wrote: May 14, 2018, 9:02 pm I think i'd like not to spend years disparaging a third hero from my youth. I had fond memories of Dave and Stick, Stick in particular was my childhood hero. I hate how much he annoys me
I loved Dave...

hopefully in time the pair of them will settle back in the Mal role of forgetting how terrible they were as coaches and my thoughts will be entirely about what tremendous footballers they were and what they contributed to this team as players

I could do with a break from that dance. I'd love not to have to wrestle with my thoughts on Laurie Daley

Also, we've gone to the former player well too many times now. Can we just get a new face, fresh ideas into the joint? My preference, as is well established, anyone who cant point to QBN on a map
Good point. We need to come at this from a different angle.

Howell? Bulgarelli? Orford?
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LastRaider wrote:What do we think of Laurie Daley as coach?


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I'd rather wheel him and Mal out as players tbh
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Northern Raider wrote: May 14, 2018, 9:11 pm
Pigman wrote: May 14, 2018, 9:02 pm I think i'd like not to spend years disparaging a third hero from my youth. I had fond memories of Dave and Stick, Stick in particular was my childhood hero. I hate how much he annoys me
I loved Dave...

hopefully in time the pair of them will settle back in the Mal role of forgetting how terrible they were as coaches and my thoughts will be entirely about what tremendous footballers they were and what they contributed to this team as players

I could do with a break from that dance. I'd love not to have to wrestle with my thoughts on Laurie Daley

Also, we've gone to the former player well too many times now. Can we just get a new face, fresh ideas into the joint? My preference, as is well established, anyone who cant point to QBN on a map
Good point. We need to come at this from a different angle.

Howell? Bulgarelli? Orford?
I think the current hierarchy goes:

Terry Campese
Laurie Daley
Betty White
Jason Croker
Mal, again
Alan Tongue
Josh Miller

That'll take us through till 2050 and by then we should have a fresh wave of Croker/Wighton/Bateman
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greeneyed wrote:Toovey... It's ridiculous!

Will never coach another NRL team.
Why!

There’s got to be an investigation!

Need some discipline at this club


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Following the last decade of Raiders and NSW. Laurie Daley is just about the absolute last person I would want to coach the Raiders.

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gangrenous wrote:Following the last decade of Raiders and NSW. Laurie Daley is just about the absolute last person I would want to coach the Raiders.

Obvious troll is obvious.
I agree. Where to now then, off to England to recruit a coach?


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I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
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KingDynamite wrote:I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
Sounds great.

But we never make the finals.

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Who is the bloke coaching Broncos reserves? I want him, in the absence of any more high profile candidate. I hear he's fantastic. Nameless, but fantastic.
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T_R wrote:
KingDynamite wrote:I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
Sounds great.

But we never make the finals.

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Ricky Stewart is employed to get successful results on the footy field. We have made the finals once in 4 years and the way we are going in 2018 it will be once in 5 years. I was one who gave him a fair bit of lee way in the first couple of years because the team components were not his. He had to get the roster into the shape he wanted it. He did that by 2016 and produced a memorable season. Since then we have, in Sticky's words, produced 'soft' performance after 'soft' performance. He is responsible for that.

I couldn't care less about 'Publicity on the Internet' or his abuse of certain Members of the media at press conferences over articles written or to an extent the bagging of fans with his 'I know more than you do' comments. It is nothing compared to the regret I feel that this Club Champion simply cannot produce consistent positive outcomes as a coach. That's his role, that's his job and that's been a failure.
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KingDynamite wrote:I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
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At what point if any is that off field stuff not enough. Surely at some point he needs to get some results on the field as well. I've said consistently over the past couple of years that this is his year. He assembled this squad. He's paid overs to keep the playing group together. It hasn't paid dividends. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm prepared to give him another year to turn it around again. He can freshen up the joint by turning over some of our perennial underperformers but if it amounts to nothing next year than I'm sorry but he needs to fall on his sword. If he truly loved the club, half as much as he says he does, he would resign this year, but we know that won't happen.
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The point was year three, when he had 'his' squad

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KingDynamite wrote: May 14, 2018, 10:21 pm I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
What about anything football-related this club is producing says “professional”?

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After our loss to the Warriors I came to the conclusion that Ricky Stuart has to go. It was based on my belief that our biggest weakness in 2016 and 2017 was all to do with our defence and attitude to defence. It was clear as day. We came out in 2018 and it's as bad, or worse. It boggles the mind that this would not have been 'Priority Number 1' for the off-season and we come out with a point to prove. Nope.
It just shows he doesn't get it.

I'm happy to ride out this season and see what happens, I'm forever the optimist. But if we don't make the Semi's then his position is just untenable.
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Yeah, I understand why people give stick a very long leash, but the fact is at some point you actually have to start winning football games don't you?

2016 was a dream year. The rest of Stick's tenure as coach has been mediocre at best and genuinely poor at other times. I don't doubt he loves the club, I don't doubt he wants us to win and I don't for a moment doubt his heart being in the job. But he just can't seem to get us the last 10% of the way there.

Look at Souths - they sacked Maguire a couple of years after he delivered them a premiership because they were on the decline and his ideas weren't working. We can't just keep the faith with Stick because he 'bleeds green'.
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Pigman wrote: May 14, 2018, 9:27 pm
Northern Raider wrote: May 14, 2018, 9:11 pm
Pigman wrote: May 14, 2018, 9:02 pm I think i'd like not to spend years disparaging a third hero from my youth. I had fond memories of Dave and Stick, Stick in particular was my childhood hero. I hate how much he annoys me
I loved Dave...

hopefully in time the pair of them will settle back in the Mal role of forgetting how terrible they were as coaches and my thoughts will be entirely about what tremendous footballers they were and what they contributed to this team as players

I could do with a break from that dance. I'd love not to have to wrestle with my thoughts on Laurie Daley

Also, we've gone to the former player well too many times now. Can we just get a new face, fresh ideas into the joint? My preference, as is well established, anyone who cant point to QBN on a map
Good point. We need to come at this from a different angle.

Howell? Bulgarelli? Orford?
I think the current hierarchy goes:

Terry Campese
Laurie Daley
Betty White
Jason Croker
Mal, again
Alan Tongue
Josh Miller

That'll take us through till 2050 and by then we should have a fresh wave of Croker/Wighton/Bateman
Don't forget Simon Woolford. Doing a stint as head coach of Huddersfield Giants and Hodgo credited him for his 2016 form. Lock him in as a special.
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KingDynamite wrote: May 14, 2018, 10:21 pm I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
Totally agree, but he cannot get the team to perform on the field.
Make him a director or 'manager' like alex fergusson or gould and recruit a good coach.
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yeah that's a good call
Used to coach a QBN team too, the ties are strong there
Slot him in 3rd behind Loz and Campo
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yeah that's a good call
Used to coach a QBN team too, the ties are strong there
Slot him in 3rd behind Loz and Campo
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woppadingo wrote:
KingDynamite wrote: May 14, 2018, 10:21 pm I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.
Totally agree, but he cannot get the team to perform on the field.
Make him a director or 'manager' like alex fergusson or gould and recruit a good coach.
I use to be a Ricky fan and use to cop all the criticism from friends and I use to take it on the chin. He has done some good things for the team but he is now at his ceiling if what he can do as a coach. It’s now time the team built on what Ricky has achieved and appoint a coach of the next level to replace him.


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So you believe Stuart is a foundations guy and no matter how good a job he has done on the buildings foundations getting him to build the rest of the structure is going to lead to collapse and the ruining of that nice foundation? So do we need a framing guy or a drywall guy how far did we let him get before we realised it was a bad idea?
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LastRaider wrote: May 16, 2018, 12:11 pm
woppadingo wrote:
KingDynamite wrote: May 14, 2018, 10:21 pm I love Ricky Stuart.

He has changed this club off the field. Our media engagement is better, we pay respect to our past better than ever before, we have involvement from former greats, we’ve had more publicity on the internet past few years than the decade and a half prior.
We now acknowledge player numbers better, have more members, engage with fans better and more regularly, actively involve our players in charity events.

The bloke gets an awful wrap on this forum. We get people making assumptions about his personality to discredit him as a coach. We have a bloke who genuinely loves the club and is building it to be more professional and sustainable and all he gets from the fans is this garbage.

He gets a free pass from me IDGAF.

100% spot on
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Ultima wrote:So you believe Stuart is a foundations guy and no matter how good a job he has done on the buildings foundations getting him to build the rest of the structure is going to lead to collapse and the ruining of that nice foundation? So do we need a framing guy or a drywall guy how far did we let him get before we realised it was a bad idea?
Well if we lose big signings this year and don’t replace with any good stock and finish in the bottom 8 we have officially collapsed. So back to a framing guy then


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Sack him please... so I can stop going into my weekends already grumpy about the garbage performance we will inevitably roll out
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