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Only the ones in green are Raiders seasons...
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Yeah that caught me too
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Maybe we need to do a graph from 2002..... say when we chose elliot over bellamy........
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So what we can gather is that we have been **** since 2002......... having a better than 50% win average in 6 seasons.....
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PerthRaider86 wrote: August 17, 2018, 3:57 pm Image


So what we can gather is that we have been **** since 2002......... having a better than 50% win average in 6 seasons.....
I'd like to see that back to 1982... if you have the time!
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greeneyed wrote: August 17, 2018, 2:30 pm Only the ones in green are Raiders seasons...
Ah it's a Ricky Stuart coaching graph, not a Raiders only based graph. So the blue is his Rorters days I guess. Thanks for clearing that up. Should be obvious with the colours- facepalm
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greeneyed wrote: August 17, 2018, 4:02 pm
PerthRaider86 wrote: August 17, 2018, 3:57 pm Image


So what we can gather is that we have been **** since 2002......... having a better than 50% win average in 6 seasons.....
I'd like to see that back to 1982... if you have the time!
Ill see what i can do...... might have to start charging :lol: :lol:
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So as we know Coaches were:

Don Furner 1982−1987
Bill Sullivan 1982
Allan McMahon 1986
Wayne Bennett 1987
Tim Sheens 1988−1996
Graham Rogers 1991
Mal Meninga 1997−2001
Matthew Elliott 2002−2006
Neil Henry 2007−2008
David Furner 2009−2013
Andrew Dunemann 2013
Ricky Stuart 2014−present
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Thanks. Shows there have been a couple of outlier, really poor years. 1982 and 2011. But some others not too far off.

But it also shows there has been a long term decline in performance... and no decade is worse than the current one.
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Grim reading for us Raiders fans.................
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PerthRaider86 wrote: August 17, 2018, 4:38 pm Image

So as we know Coaches were:

Don Furner 1982−1987
Bill Sullivan 1982
Allan McMahon 1986
Wayne Bennett 1987
Tim Sheens 1988−1996
Graham Rogers 1991
Mal Meninga 1997−2001
Matthew Elliott 2002−2006
Neil Henry 2007−2008
David Furner 2009−2013
Andrew Dunemann 2013
Ricky Stuart 2014−present
Sticky on the same trajectory of Elliot. Their 5 years looks like a middle finger to long suffering fans :(
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So what you're telling me is this is currently equal with our worst 5 year stretch, when the club was just starting
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PerthRaider86 wrote: August 17, 2018, 4:38 pm Image

So as we know Coaches were:

Don Furner 1982−1987
Bill Sullivan 1982
Allan McMahon 1986
Wayne Bennett 1987
Tim Sheens 1988−1996
Graham Rogers 1991
Mal Meninga 1997−2001
Matthew Elliott 2002−2006
Neil Henry 2007−2008
David Furner 2009−2013
Andrew Dunemann 2013
Ricky Stuart 2014−present
Who knew Graham Rogers is our greatest ever coach with a 100% win record.
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-TW- wrote: August 17, 2018, 6:19 pm So what you're telling me is this is currently equal with our worst 5 year stretch, when the club was just starting
The stat's would suggest that, yes
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PerthRaider86 wrote:
-TW- wrote: August 17, 2018, 6:19 pm So what you're telling me is this is currently equal with our worst 5 year stretch, when the club was just starting
The stat's would suggest that, yes
2014-2018 is pretty similar to 2011-2015 and 2001-2005 as well. There’s a few bad patches there.
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Put another way... the past decade is certainly the worst period in Raiders history.
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Lazo rang up and sprayed Piggy Riddell for his comments, saying he was doing a good job and it was the players fault they make bad decisions

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-TW- wrote: August 18, 2018, 7:54 am Lazo rang up and sprayed Piggy Riddell for his comments, saying he was doing a good job and it was the players fault they make bad decisions

Spare me
You can't carry on about players being accountable when the one person who is in a position to hold them accountable does absolutely nothing about it.
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After watching the sea eagles blow a sizable half time lead last night I'm almost certain Barrett will be coming to Canberra next year
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Green eyed Mick wrote: August 17, 2018, 6:11 pm
PerthRaider86 wrote: August 17, 2018, 4:38 pm Image

So as we know Coaches were:

Don Furner 1982−1987
Bill Sullivan 1982
Allan McMahon 1986
Wayne Bennett 1987
Tim Sheens 1988−1996
Graham Rogers 1991
Mal Meninga 1997−2001
Matthew Elliott 2002−2006
Neil Henry 2007−2008
David Furner 2009−2013
Andrew Dunemann 2013
Ricky Stuart 2014−present
Sticky on the same trajectory of Elliot. Their 5 years looks like a middle finger to long suffering fans :(
Elliott used the excuse of not having the 'cattle'. Sticky has the players he wants and the result is ... a poorly performing FG coach.
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Suppose it could be worse, McGregor has said Ben Hunt is undroppable
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If there is any tiny consolation, I guess that if anyone was "undroppable" it was the nappy prodigy himself Dave Furner. Not only did he have his nappy changer as the Chairman, but his freakin brother was the CEO.

If he can get sacked, then Ricky sure as hell can.

Less consoling is the fact that the Destroyer of Clubs™ can do untold damage until that time comes.
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The thing that gets me with Sticky’s squad, compared to Furner, Henry and Elliott, is that I feel the hope is gone.

Under the other coaches, we had some shocking results, but they kept me watching. We could lose to the wooden spooners one week, then absolutely belt the premiership favourites the next week.

This team is just plain bad, when they shouldn’t be


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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:The thing that gets me with Sticky’s squad, compared to Furner, Henry and Elliott, is that I feel the hope is gone.

Under the other coaches, we had some shocking results, but they kept me watching. We could lose to the wooden spooners one week, then absolutely belt the premiership favourites the next week.

This team is just plain bad, when they shouldn’t be


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TSNTR
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Pigman wrote: August 19, 2018, 6:12 pmTSNTR
Even Google and urban dictionary doesn't know this one.
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Would anyone be surprised if EDIT?
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edwahu wrote: August 19, 2018, 6:24 pm
Pigman wrote: August 19, 2018, 6:12 pmTSNTR
Even Google and urban dictionary doesn't know this one.
It's become easier to make it an acronym instead of typing out "This **** needs to resign" every week
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-TW- wrote: August 18, 2018, 7:54 am Lazo rang up and sprayed Piggy Riddell for his comments, saying he was doing a good job and it was the players fault they make bad decisions

Spare me
So you blame Ricky for Austin making that kick today??
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Dubby, that's not an isolated play, the team routinely makes ridiculous plays like that, it's every week...

Either Stuart is fine with it, or he's not able to successfully reach them as a coacha and get them to play smarter. Either way, yeah, its on him.
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Pigman wrote:Dubby, that's not an isolated play, the team routinely makes ridiculous plays like that, it's every week...

Either Stuart is fine with it, or he's not able to successfully reach them as a coacha and get them to play smarter. Either way, yeah, its on him.
Yeah right. Course it is.

Havili/Elliott off the kick off. Blame Ricky.



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I feel positive about 2019. I'm probably mad, but i see a pattern in the Stuart era.

2014: Complete disaster
2015: A year full of close losses and what ifs
2016: Amazing
2017: Complete disaster
2018: A year full of close losses and what ifs
2019: TBA

Based on this rock solid theory, Stick should guide us to a premiership next year. As soon as the trophy has been lifted he sould be sacked immediately.

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Haha you're comparing a knock, a run of the mill error on with an instance of poor decision making? Honestly. **** sake Dubby! Haha

Austin's kick was not a one off error, it was a man who has a history of poor decision making on the football field, making yet another catastrophic decision and costing his team dearly.

Either Stuart doesnt coach him up on his decision making, or he does and it's just not effective, or he does and it's not effective and he's not willing to do a **** thing about.
Either way, that's on the coach.
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We are not sacking Ricky today..

Dudes a genius.
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dubby wrote:
-TW- wrote: August 18, 2018, 7:54 am Lazo rang up and sprayed Piggy Riddell for his comments, saying he was doing a good job and it was the players fault they make bad decisions

Spare me
So you blame Ricky for Austin making that kick today??
Coaches are paid to get players attitudes right

It's pretty simple
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