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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 4:47 pm
by EJ
That was a fun game to be at though. At least until kick off.
We were way outnumbered but the boys definitely heard us when they came out for their warm up.
Dugan was practicing his goalkicking and was getting cheered like he was scoring tries. Mostly because he couldn't kick a goal to save his life the week before.
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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 5:00 pm
by edwahu
That 2012 side was a really good team. They would've had a good run if they kept the squad together with Milford and Vaughan showing up the next season. If you base it on the list of names in the squad alone 2013 is probably our strongest since 2000.
Just a shame Furner couldn't manage the egos.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 5:07 pm
by Blues87
Should be throwing the bank at James Maloney. Would solve a lot of our issues.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 5:09 pm
by dubby
Blues87 wrote:Should be throwing the bank at James Maloney. Would solve a lot of our issues.
Bloody oath. much prefer him to TPJ at this point
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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 5:35 pm
by edwahu
TPJ will be a superstar for 10 seasons, Maloney plays the right position but is 33 next year. There is a bit of an Orford risk about him.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 5:46 pm
by gangrenous
EJ wrote:That was a fun game to be at though. At least until kick off.
Agree! I had a fantastic time, even though we got pummelled. The atmosphere in the Raiders bays was great. It was really weird to enjoy a match which ended our season. Perhaps having already exceeded expectations helped.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 5:50 pm
by Coastalraider
edwahu wrote: ↑August 27, 2018, 5:35 pm
TPJ will be a superstar for 10 seasons, Maloney plays the right position but is 33 next year. There is a bit of an Orford risk about him.
Which sadly makes him perfect for the raiders....
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 7:39 pm
by edwahu
Turbos and DCE are supposedly disgruntled.
What a time to have no cash
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 8:10 pm
by Botman
Ignore the fact none of the TPJ, DCE or the Turbos are coming here at market rate, ever now they're big deals
But yeah, this is why you shouldnt overpay anyone, and be happy to let people walk, it at least gives you a chance to over pay the Turbo boys, or TPJ, or the next Ponga.
The knights laid down the blueprint for a club like ours. You stink, and you stink and you stink until you luck into overpaying or developing a potential franchise changer. You give yourself the shot for the Ponga-Pearce double.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 8:58 pm
by T_R
I wonder if TPJ is discovering his market rate is not quite what he thought it was.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 10:13 pm
by Beejay
Pigman wrote: ↑August 27, 2018, 8:10 pm
The knights laid down the blueprint for a club like ours. You stink, and you stink and you stink until you luck into overpaying or developing a potential franchise changer. You give yourself the shot for the Ponga-Pearce double.
I like the look of them with Ramien. Glasby might be a good balance for them in the forwards.
But Gee, you’d want some daylight next year wouldn’t you? I mean 3 years of absolute sludge for them to finish this year with the worst Points differential again.
Slowest rebuild in history better get them some results eventually...
I think I’d go mad if I was a supporter
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 27, 2018, 10:27 pm
by edwahu
Yeah, it's still in the gamble category. If Pearce didn't go down they might have made the 8 or gone very close but still you would think lower end of the 8 is best case next year again.
They still have one big signing to come though imo and I'd rate their squad ahead of ours for next year.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 2:27 am
by InFernos_Raiders
Pigman wrote: ↑August 27, 2018, 8:10 pm
Ignore the fact none of the TPJ, DCE or the Turbos are coming here at market rate, ever now they're big deals
But yeah, this is why you shouldnt overpay anyone, and be happy to let people walk, it at least gives you a chance to over pay the Turbo boys, or TPJ, or the next Ponga.
The knights laid down the blueprint for a club like ours. You stink, and you stink and you stink until you luck into overpaying or developing a potential franchise changer. You give yourself the shot for the Ponga-Pearce double.
It will be a cold day in hell if we ever sign Turbos, DCE or TPJ lol no chance in the world. Raiders have no money left for 2019 and beyond the clubs over paid players till 2020 when most are off contract. Isn’t it odd that the amount of players we have leaving in 2019 including the players we let go alreadin in 2018 and all the club can buy are 2 SL players. We can’t even buy another half.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 10:48 am
by zim
1. Kalyn Ponga
2. Edrick Lee
3. Jesse Ramien
4. Tautau Moga
5. Shaun Kenny-Dowall
6. Connor Watson
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Tim Glasby
9. Slade Griffin
10. Herman Ese'ese
11. Sione Mata'utia
12. Lachlan Fitzgibbon
13. Aidan Guerra
14. Dany Levi
15. Mitch Barnett
16. Josh King
17. Daniel Saifiti
They're stronger out wide next year. A lot stronger. Defense should get better with Glasby and Griffin in the middle. They could sneak into the 8 but they're going to have to be lucky with injuries.
Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 12:12 pm
by roneel78
Surely Ken Sio gets first crack over Edrick Lee!
And the Ross dog
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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 1:05 pm
by bonehead
Matautia won't be starting in the pack I don't think. Still some head knock concerns.
Edrick will be 2nd winger picked.
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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 5:05 pm
by Ruben Daley
edwahu wrote: ↑August 27, 2018, 10:27 pm
Yeah, it's still in the gamble category. If Pearce didn't go down they might have made the 8 or gone very close but still you would think lower end of the 8 is best case next year again.
They still have one big signing to come though imo and I'd rate their squad ahead of ours for next year.
Aside from Ponga and Pearce, I don’t see that many guys in Zim’s list who’d clearly beat ours head to head.
To me, the comparison just boils down to our halves. Ponga or Pearce (or both) would be all we’d need.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 7:53 pm
by BigPapa
Hopefully this TPJ horse has been flogged 2 death now he was never coming.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 7:57 pm
by Botman
I dont think the knights are any better than us, i think over the park we're much better.
The game is won in the 1-6-7-9
Hodgson beats the piss out of whoever they can throw up.
I think either Williams or Sezer are winners over Watson... Pearce and Ponga leave us for dead. So it's 2-2, and the rest of the squad i think we win... Unfortunately in a close game you'd bank on Pearce over any of our guys to close a game out.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 8:27 pm
by Neeeegz
Swap Jack's salary for tpj since he should be sacked after his case comes to light, id be happy with Abbey over a **** in the team any day
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 8:59 pm
by edwahu
Sharks done for the cap. Maybe they will need to shed players as well.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 9:43 pm
by Matt
Ruben Daley wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 5:05 pm
edwahu wrote: ↑August 27, 2018, 10:27 pm
Yeah, it's still in the gamble category. If Pearce didn't go down they might have made the 8 or gone very close but still you would think lower end of the 8 is best case next year again.
They still have one big signing to come though imo and I'd rate their squad ahead of ours for next year.
Aside from Ponga and Pearce, I don’t see that many guys in Zim’s list who’d clearly beat ours head to head.
To me, the comparison just boils down to our halves. Ponga or Pearce (or both) would be all we’d need.
Id take Ese Ese and/or one or both Safiti's over 2 or 3 of our benchies, but thats about it.
Fitz, Barnett or Guerra would be more than handy too, but we dont need backrowers.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 9:45 pm
by Matt
Pigman wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 7:57 pm
I dont think the knights are any better than us, i think over the park we're much better.
The game is won in the 1-6-7-9
Hodgson beats the piss out of whoever they can throw up.
I think either Williams or Sezer are winners over Watson... Pearce and Ponga leave us for dead. So it's 2-2, and the rest of the squad i think we win... Unfortunately in a close game you'd bank on Pearce over any of our guys to close a game out.
Yep. Those 2 and genuine class. I suspect that if they both played all yr they make the 8 too.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 9:47 pm
by Matt
edwahu wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 8:59 pm
Sharks done for the cap. Maybe they will need to shed players as well.
Lewis retires.
Ramien and Eddy to Knights.
Isn't Feki off to ESL?
Val to Cows maybe. Though they are linked to Barba and Bird. Any/ all are on good money.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 28, 2018, 10:34 pm
by Ruben Daley
Matt wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 9:47 pm
edwahu wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 8:59 pm
Sharks done for the cap. Maybe they will need to shed players as well.
Lewis retires.
Ramien and Eddy to Knights.
Isn't Feki off to ESL?
Val to Cows maybe. Though they are linked to Barba and Bird. Any/ all are on good money.
Doesn’t feel like the NRL will do anything about this. Paul Kent said the NRL is looking at 2015 and 2017 but they’ve cleared 2016. Explain to me how that can be right. It’s just the NRL avoiding having to strip another title.
Would love to land one of their bigs for cheap though.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 6:46 am
by Hazza
greeneyed wrote: ↑August 26, 2018, 5:37 pm
Anyone left who still thinks letting Lachlan Lewis go was a good idea?
Gotta say I'm amazed at how well he's going. He was never dominant in the 20's and I watched most our games. He was released for a reason. Looks to have improved dramatically in the last year or so.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 6:51 am
by Hazza
Ruben Daley wrote: ↑August 26, 2018, 9:00 pm
-TW- wrote: ↑August 26, 2018, 7:30 pm
I remember Issac John looking like a world beater when he debuted
Me too. Also pretty sure Sam Williams won man of the match on debut in a 40-0 flogging of the Sharks.
Was actually 40-12. But yeah 40-0 sounds a lot better. Sammy had 3 or 4 try assists. We then went on to lose 8 in a row and run 2nd last.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 6:56 am
by Hazza
Blues87 wrote: ↑August 27, 2018, 5:07 pm
Should be throwing the bank at James Maloney. Would solve a lot of our issues.
Perhaps. He certainly wouldn't solve any of our defensive issues though. Austin cops a lot of stick for his d. Rightly so. But Maloney's d is worse. Missed the most tackles in the comp, and by a long way. Obviously what he does in attack goes a fair way to making up for it.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 6:58 am
by Hazza
Neeeegz wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 8:27 pm
Swap Jack's salary for tpj since he should be sacked after his case comes to light, id be happy with Abbey over a **** in the team any day
I'm really not sure what anyone sees in Abbey. He still looks out of his depth to me.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 7:37 am
by Manchild
Hazza wrote:Neeeegz wrote: ↑August 28, 2018, 8:27 pm
Swap Jack's salary for tpj since he should be sacked after his case comes to light, id be happy with Abbey over a **** in the team any day
I'm really not sure what anyone sees in Abbey. He still looks out of his depth to me.
Yeah I am with you on that Hazza. He seems too small and gets dominated constantly. He goes down at the slightest touch and has dropped a lot of passes/bombs already.
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 8:03 am
by Neeeegz
Provided Abbey can bulk up a little in the off season he will be fine, Jack was also average for his first few seasons at fb don't forget, and while a decent player now, not a rep player and never will be, and not someone I want at our club after what he did. Cant wait until the court case is over, and hope he gets sacked...
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 8:13 am
by Raiders666
Neeeegz wrote: ↑August 29, 2018, 8:03 am
Provided Abbey can bulk up a little in the off season he will be fine, Jack was also average for his first few seasons at fb don't forget, and while a decent player now, not a rep player and never will be, and not someone I want at our club after what he did. Cant wait until the court case is over, and hope he gets sacked...
You are dreaming if you think Jack will be sacked..
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 8:31 am
by LastRaider
Raiders666 wrote:Neeeegz wrote: ↑August 29, 2018, 8:03 am
Provided Abbey can bulk up a little in the off season he will be fine, Jack was also average for his first few seasons at fb don't forget, and while a decent player now, not a rep player and never will be, and not someone I want at our club after what he did. Cant wait until the court case is over, and hope he gets sacked...
You are dreaming if you think Jack will be sacked..
Wighton will go when Stuart gets sacked. New coach won’t keep Wighton if he is on a high salary
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Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 8:36 am
by Neeeegz
At least Carney only pissed in his own mouth...
Re: Raiders player signing speculation 2018
Posted: August 29, 2018, 8:53 am
by Raiders666
Neeeegz wrote: ↑August 29, 2018, 8:36 am
At least Carney only pissed in his own mouth...
Amongst other things..