Raiders player signing speculation 2018

[InFernos_Raiders]

We should be pulling out all stops to get TPJ back... and if there's no room in the cap... let's get a TPA done!

And if we have no room left in the salary cap... given the players lost... it is one of the great mysteries of life. There must be some players on the books being paid well in excess of market value.

Can The GH be the third party?


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Some Eels fan site tried it and it got knocked back.

Imagine Pappa and TPJ rolling forward.

[roneel78]

And was just mentioned on Fox that Munster a chance to the Roosters for 2020 (replace Cronk)

Even comp I guess......

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Like Robinson said..... Thank heavens for the salary cap

With a straight face too.....


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[FROG]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

[Matt]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

No way in the world Radley is on 300K. Maybe 300K on the cap with some TPAs topping him up.

[Brew]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

They do manage the cap but the stories I hear of what Politis does is genius and it’s why we can’t compete.


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[Sid]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

They do manage the cap but the stories I hear of what Politis does is genius and it’s why we can’t compete.


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Any examples of the stories?

[BJ]

A pommie player wrote in a book how the Roosters gave him an under the table payment. I was always surprised that this blew over as a news story so quickly.

Roosters do have an excellent TPA source, but they have also successfully fought hard against the NRL officially releasing the TPA figures in full and in a fully transparent way. After the NRL promised to do this.

[zim]

WHat about Kurt Mann at 6? Might be able to lure him with promise of a position with an upgrade post 2019.

It's not the worst idea. He defends well. Still has a brain explosion in his game when he's trying to create.
Would be a similar signing to Ryley Jacks.

[edwahu]

Have a look at the guest list at Politis 25th anniversary in charge of the Roosters. It was all multi multi millionaires and player agents. There is no way we compete with that, ever.

[BigPapa]

The mole reckons Knights are chasing Troy Dargan from the Broncos. Hard to see him getting a start if Ponga moves to 5/8 does anyone know much about him if he'd be worth chasing?

[zim]

He's played half back for the Australian Schoolboys and NSW u20s. Kept out of the Junior Kangaroos side by Brodie Croft. Turns 21 soon.
Would be playing for Mounties. Not a first grader at the moment.

[Matt]

WHat about Kurt Mann at 6? Might be able to lure him with promise of a position with an upgrade post 2019.

It's not the worst idea. He defends well. Still has a brain explosion in his game when he's trying to create.
Would be a similar signing to Ryley Jacks.

In our system both guys would be fine.
They arent going to demand the ball - thus freeing up Hodgo and Sezer.
They will make their tackles.
They can ball play and kick well enough for a 3rd option.

[gerg]

Have a look at the guest list at Politis 25th anniversary in charge of the Roosters. It's was all multi multi millionaires and player agents. There is no way we compete with that, ever.

This is why it makes no sense that we scrapped our Junior development program. We are competing directly with Uncle Nick.

[edwahu]

I don't think we scrapped our junior development program though. Nothing much changed in practice from what I could see except the switch to Mounties.

[-PJ-]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

[greeneyed]

I don't think we scrapped our junior development program though. Nothing much changed in practice from what I could see except the switch to Mounties.

We provide far fewer opportunities in Under 20s and NSW Premiership than we used to. And leave it to Mounties to contract players to fill the gaps in those teams.

Not a lot has changed for Harold Matthews and SG Ball, in fact, the club has invested more in Academy teams in the region.

[-PJ-]

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

[Matt]

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

G'Day Mr Jost,
Rare that Americans follow league. Did you get confused with the Oakland Raiders or something?

[reptar]

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

G'Day Mr Jost,
Rare that Americans follow league. Did you get confused with the Oakland Raiders or something?

Shouldn't that be the Las Vegas Raiders?

[Matt]

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

G'Day Mr Jost,
Rare that Americans follow league. Did you get confused with the Oakland Raiders or something?

Shouldn't that be the Las Vegas Raiders?

Technically... but did they actually change their name? Coz the stadium isnt ready yet

[Brew]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

They do manage the cap but the stories I hear of what Politis does is genius and it’s why we can’t compete.


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Any examples of the stories?

Sure.

I’ll give you a brief example of one.

I’ll take you out for a round of Golf and we will have a friendly wager on the game. Nothing illegal. Just two guys having a bet. But I suck at Golf so you might just win.


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[Wiki Special]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

They do manage the cap but the stories I hear of what Politis does is genius and it’s why we can’t compete.


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Any examples of the stories?

Sure.

I’ll give you a brief example of one.

I’ll take you out for a round of Golf and we will have a friendly wager on the game. Nothing illegal. Just two guys having a bet. But I suck at Golf so you might just win.


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That really is quite clever. I tell you what, had I been one of the two lucky Powerball winners last week I would have taken TPJ and Munster out golfing quite a bit over the next 5 years.

[reptar]

Do you actually have to play golf? Or just say you did?

[dubby]

We should be pulling out all stops to get TPJ back... and if there's no room in the cap... let's get a TPA done!

And if we have no room left in the salary cap... given the players lost... it is one of the great mysteries of life. There must be some players on the books being paid well in excess of market value.

I think it's more indicative that we lack due to TPAs. Penrith have among the most, while we are among the fewest.

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[Johno]

Do you actually have to play golf? Or just say you did?

Mini Golf King at Fyshwick would be fine, maybe add another sweetener while in the precinct

[edwahu]

I recall when we lost Monaghan we claimed the Roosters have agents on retainers, and given that the NRL has nothing it can do about it, I doubt it has stopped at all.

[Matt]

Do you actually have to play golf? Or just say you did?

Mini Golf King at Fyshwick would be fine, maybe add another sweetener while in the precinct

Thats right, they do have the Lindt cafe at COC. Well played

[T_R]

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

Once was informative, but twice was just plain boastful.

[Botman]

We should be pulling out all stops to get TPJ back... and if there's no room in the cap... let's get a TPA done!

And if we have no room left in the salary cap... given the players lost... it is one of the great mysteries of life. There must be some players on the books being paid well in excess of market value.

I think it's more indicative that we lack due to TPAs. Penrith have among the most, while we are among the fewest.

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Actually it probably has more to do with Coach ****, Mulholland and DFJ overpaying **** players.

[FROG]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

I just called her and she said she's never met you. She also said we are not getting tpj.

[El_Capitano]

I honestly don't believe the roosters cheat the cap. They manage it properly. For example, they've signed Victor Radley on a 5 year contract with practically no first grade experience. Does here honestly believe he'd be on more than 300k? But in a couple of years everyone will be saying how can they keep him with all their other stars. They have moved a lot of players on. Last year they moved on SKD, Pearce and Watson. They have the advantage of being a club that people wants to play for, but thats largely their own doing (goes with the territory of being a successful club).

I'm dating Scarlett Johannsson..

I just called her and she said she's never met you. She also said we are not getting tpj.

Yeah but she lies 50% of the time


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[gerg]

I don't think we scrapped our junior development program though. Nothing much changed in practice from what I could see except the switch to Mounties.

We provide far fewer opportunities in Under 20s and NSW Premiership than we used to. And leave it to Mounties to contract players to fill the gaps in those teams.

Not a lot has changed for Harold Matthews and SG Ball, in fact, the club has invested more in Academy teams in the region.

I thought after the club lost Milford they made a bit of noise about not being prepared to invest so much time and money on junior development? This combined with Ricky dumping Cornish without a chance; and apparent preference for buying more mature players.

[greeneyed]

I don't think we scrapped our junior development program though. Nothing much changed in practice from what I could see except the switch to Mounties.

We provide far fewer opportunities in Under 20s and NSW Premiership than we used to. And leave it to Mounties to contract players to fill the gaps in those teams.

Not a lot has changed for Harold Matthews and SG Ball, in fact, the club has invested more in Academy teams in the region.

I thought after the club lost Milford they made a bit of noise about not being prepared to invest so much time and money on junior development? This combined with Ricky dumping Cornish without a chance; and apparent preference for buying more mature players.

That’s true, and not running a NSW Cup team or Under 20s team is consistent with that. On the other hand, there’s been more work with Academies in southern NSW and Fiji... leaving players playing there until they’re older. The Matts team seems to focus on players in the Canberra region... they bring more in from farther afield for Ball.

[dribble73]

I don't think we scrapped our junior development program though. Nothing much changed in practice from what I could see except the switch to Mounties.

We provide far fewer opportunities in Under 20s and NSW Premiership than we used to. And leave it to Mounties to contract players to fill the gaps in those teams.

Not a lot has changed for Harold Matthews and SG Ball, in fact, the club has invested more in Academy teams in the region.

I thought after the club lost Milford they made a bit of noise about not being prepared to invest so much time and money on junior development? This combined with Ricky dumping Cornish without a chance; and apparent preference for buying more mature players.

That’s true, and not running a NSW Cup team or Under 20s team is consistent with that. On the other hand, there’s been more work with Academies in southern NSW and Fiji... leaving players playing there until they’re older. The Matts team seems to focus on players in the Canberra region... they bring more in from farther afield for Ball.

90% of this years current 20s squad are Canberra based players.


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[greeneyed]

Yep, fair enough dribble.

Personally I’d rather the Raiders were running their own NSW Cup and Jersey Flegg teams and basing them fully in the region. They are no doubt very good rugby league people at Mounties... and I’ll support them no doubt while this arrangement runs. But I think it’d be better for Canberra rugby league to have those teams playing out of Canberra.