Raiders player signing speculation 2018

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » April 14, 2018, 12:26 pm

-PJ- wrote: ↑April 14, 2018, 12:08 pm
greeneyed wrote: ↑April 14, 2018, 11:20 am I'm not sure the people on the Eels forum are a reliable source of information!
Correct, Facebook is where the truth is...

If it's on Facebook..believe it.

Well they do have access to everyones data.

Cranky Old Man · Post by **Cranky Old Man** » April 14, 2018, 1:07 pm

Northern Raider wrote: ↑April 13, 2018, 5:30 pm Should look at Brodie Croft. Storm are unhappy that he hasn’t turned into Cooper Cronk after 5 games. The kid has talent.

If he came to the Raiders, some on here would give him about 30 mins to stake his claims before they were screaming for some 17 year old from Mounties reserves to supplant him.

Lucy · Post by **Lucy** » April 14, 2018, 2:45 pm

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/izzy-i ... 4z9e5.html

Has this been mentioned? Horrible rumour. Just horrible.

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-TW- · Post by **-TW-** » April 14, 2018, 2:48 pm

Yes it has: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=ht ... are_type=t

Folau in the Canberra Raiders' sights?

Lucy · Post by **Lucy** » April 14, 2018, 2:50 pm

-TW- wrote:Yes it has: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=ht ... are_type=t

Folau in the Canberra Raiders' sights?

Thanks Timmy. I hadn't opened up the forum properly. I just saw it now. I should learn to read first.

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Green eyed Mick · Post by **Green eyed Mick** » April 14, 2018, 3:03 pm

We should definitely make an offer to Josh Drinkwater. 3 Team of the weeks at halfback in the NSW Cup.

Just to tide us over if Austin leaves and there isn't anyone suitable. Two reggies halves are better than one.

-TW- · Post by **-TW-** » April 14, 2018, 3:13 pm

Dean Hawkins from Norths looks decent too

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » April 14, 2018, 3:45 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑April 14, 2018, 3:03 pm We should definitely make an offer to Josh Drinkwater. 3 Team of the weeks at halfback in the NSW Cup.

Just to tide us over if Austin leaves and there isn't anyone suitable. Two reggies halves are better than one.

Can he defend? Williams won poty in nsw cup.

Post by **dubby** » April 14, 2018, 3:51 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote: ↑April 14, 2018, 3:03 pm We should definitely make an offer to Josh Drinkwater. 3 Team of the weeks at halfback in the NSW Cup.

Just to tide us over if Austin leaves and there isn't anyone suitable. Two reggies halves are better than one.

Jake Foster was MVP of nsw cup a few times too. Not just man of the round.

RTW · Post by **RTW** » April 14, 2018, 4:15 pm

Green eyed Mick wrote:We should definitely make an offer to Josh Drinkwater. 3 Team of the weeks at halfback in the NSW Cup.

Just to tide us over if Austin leaves and there isn't anyone suitable. Two reggies halves are better than one.

25 year old journey man who couldn’t cut it at two NRL clubs so heads to England before returning home. I haven’t watched him play but sounds very similar to Williams. Not sure he is the Drinkwater I would be going after.

Scott Drinkwater from Easts in the Q cup on the other hand would be someone I would consider

Post by **T_R** » April 14, 2018, 6:12 pm

RTW wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:We should definitely make an offer to Josh Drinkwater. 3 Team of the weeks at halfback in the NSW Cup.

Just to tide us over if Austin leaves and there isn't anyone suitable. Two reggies halves are better than one.

25 year old journey man who couldn’t cut it at two NRL clubs so heads to England before returning home. I haven’t watched him play but sounds very similar to Williams. Not sure he is the Drinkwater I would be going after.

Scott Drinkwater from Easts in the Q cup on the other hand would be someone I would consider

He's been very strong this season.

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El_Capitano · Post by **El_Capitano** » April 15, 2018, 2:18 pm

I think when Williams is fit he goes to Mounties, Sezer has gone next level as main organiser. His kicking game has been amazing. Austin played well last night as well.

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Mariner · Post by **Mariner** » April 15, 2018, 6:11 pm

Green with Envy · Post by **Green with Envy** » April 15, 2018, 9:34 pm

Whatever happened to the Ryan Sutton rumour? A friend of mine is working in London and regularly attends the super league games, and he reckons that Sutton has the same potential that everyone saw in James Graham before he came to the NRL. Those who have seen Sutton play, what are your thoughts on how he plays? Is he worth us pursuing if, say, Paulo or Papalli leave at season's end?

LastRaider · Post by **LastRaider** » April 17, 2018, 7:43 am

How I would like us to line up next year.
1. Cotric
2. Mansor (Recruit)
3. Croker
4. Leluia
5. Rapana
6. Norman (Recruit)
7. Sezer
8. Boyd
9. Hodgson
10. Campbell-Gillard (Recruit)
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. Lui
14. Havili
15. Papilii
16. Gubb
17. Murchie

Out: Wighton, Paulo, Austin, Bateman, Sia (retirement)

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Post by **Matt** » April 17, 2018, 9:08 am

LastRaider wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 7:43 am How I would like us to line up next year.
1. Cotric
2. Mansor (Recruit)
3. Croker
4. Leluia
5. Rapana
6. Norman (Recruit)
7. Sezer
8. Boyd
9. Hodgson
10. Campbell-Gillard (Recruit)
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. Lui
14. Havili
15. Papilii
16. Gubb
17. Murchie

Out: Wighton, Paulo, Austin, Bateman, Sia (retirement)

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I don't mind this.
Wouldn't be my picks, but certain works.

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » April 17, 2018, 9:42 am

Mole is reporting that Paulo is a done deal at Parramatta, $600K a year for 4 seasons. He also mentioned there will be a big clean out there.

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edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » April 17, 2018, 9:59 am

600k is high but seems not so crazy. We are probably paying him that already.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » April 17, 2018, 10:01 am

I think it's a shame to lose him, but I also think his heart hasn't been in Canberra for the best part of twelve months anyway.

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » April 17, 2018, 10:35 am

I really like Paulo. A shame to lose him. Hopefully his money is invested wisely... Hopefully spend $200K - $250K on a decent quality prop. The rest on a half upgrade.

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sprintman · Post by **sprintman** » April 17, 2018, 10:43 am

Eels listed 10 players to go. Our problems are minor compared to theirs

zim · Post by **zim** » April 17, 2018, 11:31 am

LastRaider wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 7:43 am How I would like us to line up next year.
1. Cotric
2. Mansor (Recruit)
3. Croker
4. Leluia
5. Rapana
6. Norman (Recruit)
7. Sezer
8. Boyd
9. Hodgson
10. Campbell-Gillard (Recruit)
11. Whitehead
12. Tapine
13. Lui
14. Havili
15. Papilii
16. Gubb
17. Murchie

Out: Wighton, Paulo, Austin, Bateman, Sia (retirement)

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Mansour gets injured a lot. Would need to make sure you hold on to a backup that's good for a decent 10 rounds each year.
If you wanted to spend cap elsewhere Malakai Watene-Zelezniak has been killing it for the tigpies.

Facepalm · Post by **Facepalm** » April 17, 2018, 11:32 am

Got word from a source that they spotted Norman in a Belco real estate shop twice late last week. Future planning?

-TW- · Post by **-TW-** » April 17, 2018, 12:36 pm

Heard that as well, also heard he wasn't going back after the game on the weekend so grain of salt

Raiders_Pat · Post by **Raiders_Pat** » April 17, 2018, 12:51 pm

Considering top level props are getting paid in the $800k range, I'm not sure how I would feel about losing Paulo at $600k. I know he's been underperforming, but are we going to pick up a prop or lock with a similar output for cheaper price? I honestly don't see it happening.

I will reserve my judgement because obviously I have no idea what our recruitment strategy is going in to next year. And it is definitely much better having players in the team who want to be here. But I don't think it's a bad pick up by Parra at that price.

BigPapa · Post by **BigPapa** » April 17, 2018, 1:15 pm

Raiders_Pat wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 12:51 pm Considering top level props are getting paid in the $800k range, I'm not sure how I would feel about losing Paulo at $600k. I know he's been underperforming, but are we going to pick up a prop or lock with a similar output for cheaper price? I honestly don't see it happening.

I will reserve my judgement because obviously I have no idea what our recruitment strategy is going in to next year. And it is definitely much better having players in the team who want to be here. But I don't think it's a bad pick up by Parra at that price.

Mole's article quotes over 600k a season which could mean anything. I think we're better off going after a more mobile prop the big boppers are getting phased out imo.

VictorTheViking · Post by **VictorTheViking** » April 17, 2018, 1:24 pm

600k id pay vaughan easily....

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zim · Post by **zim** » April 17, 2018, 1:24 pm

Raiders_Pat wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 12:51 pm Considering top level props are getting paid in the $800k range, I'm not sure how I would feel about losing Paulo at $600k. I know he's been underperforming, but are we going to pick up a prop or lock with a similar output for cheaper price? I honestly don't see it happening.

I will reserve my judgement because obviously I have no idea what our recruitment strategy is going in to next year. And it is definitely much better having players in the team who want to be here. But I don't think it's a bad pick up by Parra at that price.

800k in my book is overpaying for a prop. Any prop. 600k for how he's performing here is also overpaying. If he goes to Parra and plays like Vaughan for a couple of seasons it'll be a good signing for them, but it would still have been a bad signing for us to keep him at that price.

We need to look at how the signings affect the squad. Not just replacing like for like on comparable money and calling it a failure if it doesn't fall that way. As an example 400k for a prop that is more mobile and a better defender with 200k into a halves signing.

Post by **Matt** » April 17, 2018, 2:20 pm

sprintman wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 10:43 am Eels listed 10 players to go. Our problems are minor compared to theirs

Who are they all?

Post by **Matt** » April 17, 2018, 2:21 pm

VictorTheViking wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 1:24 pm 600k id pay vaughan easily....

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Pretty sure Dragons are paying 750K

zim · Post by **zim** » April 17, 2018, 2:24 pm

Matt wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 2:20 pm
sprintman wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 10:43 am Eels listed 10 players to go. Our problems are minor compared to theirs
Who are they all?

https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/04/17/08/ ... n-the-mole

A host of big names, including Kirisome Auva'a, David Gower, Jarryd Hayne, George Jennings, Cameron King, Suaia Matagi, Kaysa Pritchard, Beau Scott, Peni Terepo, Siosaia Vave and Tony Williams are off contract and many will be told they are free to leave.

Raiders_Pat · Post by **Raiders_Pat** » April 17, 2018, 2:26 pm

@VictorTheViking You're dreaming if you think we can get Vaughan at $600k in his current form...

@zim Although I agree with the thinking behind your suggestion, it will likely be harder than you think for us to pick up a first grade standard starting forward at that price. We're the Raiders, remember - we either need to pick someone up who has fallen out of favour at his current club and has no other interested parties, or we'd need to pay overs to entice someone here from another club. And overs at $400k means we'd be getting a $300k level forward. No problem with it if the coaching/recruitment staff have a solid plan in place. But if it fails, then I'd be questioning the decision.

bonehead · Post by **bonehead** » April 17, 2018, 2:26 pm

zim wrote:
Matt wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 2:20 pm
sprintman wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 10:43 am Eels listed 10 players to go. Our problems are minor compared to theirs
Who are they all?
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/04/17/08/ ... n-the-mole

A host of big names, including Kirisome Auva'a, David Gower, Jarryd Hayne, George Jennings, Cameron King, Suaia Matagi, Kaysa Pritchard, Beau Scott, Peni Terepo, Siosaia Vave and Tony Williams are off contract and many will be told they are free to leave.

no nrl quality there

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zim · Post by **zim** » April 17, 2018, 2:41 pm

Raiders_Pat wrote: ↑April 17, 2018, 2:26 pm @VictorTheViking You're dreaming if you think we can get Vaughan at $600k in his current form...

@zim Although I agree with the thinking behind your suggestion, it will likely be harder than you think for us to pick up a first grade standard starting forward at that price. We're the Raiders, remember - we either need to pick someone up who has fallen out of favour at his current club and has no other interested parties, or we'd need to pay overs to entice someone here from another club. And overs at $400k means we'd be getting a $300k level forward. No problem with it if the coaching/recruitment staff have a solid plan in place. But if it fails, then I'd be questioning the decision.

This is what I was alluding to with the thinking about the squad. Papalii is going to play in the middle if he stays. You can use some of Paulos money to keep Papalii, sign a backup forward, promote a junior forward, push it somewhere else in the cap to improve that position (5/8, lock). There's a lot you can do with that money that improves the squad as a whole.
We don't have to sign a first grade standard starting forward based off 1 player leaving. If Papalii also leaves that completely changes the scenario but then you are also dealing with way more cash.
If we lost those 2 and didn't make a significant signing you might as well just quit the NRL.

Post by **Matt** » April 17, 2018, 2:41 pm

Don't Bother:
Tony Williams - How many 2nd chances does 1 guy get?
David Gower - plod plod plod
Jarryd Hayne - was left in somewhere between 2009 and 2015?
Kirisome Auva'a - Solid, but not outstanding. Plenty of off filed issues, which is why he has changed clubs a couple of times already.
Kaysa Pritchard - A walking HIA or Injury, PASS!
Beau Scott - Been a PASS from me for the best part of a decade. Ben Cregh anyone?!?!
Siosaia Vave - Showed plenty of promise. Never got close.

Depth Only:
George Jennings - This is centre/ winger depth that would actually be ok IMO.
Cameron King - The type of guy you bring in as depth like Havili or Garvey.
Suaia Matagi - Solid, but not outstanding. Would be a decent depth option.

Worth a punt:
Peni Terepo - I would totally take a chance on this guy. He has been in there top 3 performers the past 3 wks. Physical guy, that can play decent minutes. Only issue, he seems to have a error in him. Could certainly put pressure on the likes of Gubb and Bateman.