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Raiders666 wrote: October 11, 2018, 11:40 am Ken Sio for depth?
No thanks. They only reason he's playing NRL is because the Knights lacked quality outside backs. Happy to stick with Oldfield as our no3 winger.
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There is some interesting speculation on the FB page about DCE. Apparently, if Neil Henry signs as Manly coach, DCE wants out. Q is, who on here thinks we chase DCE?

My 2 cents:
Raiders fans need to wake up and smell the reality. Our team hasn't won a comp is 25 yrs, and hasn't played finals in 3 yrs.

Our halves are probably the worst in the comp. So, if a top 2 or 3 guy is available, you inquire.... VERY seriously.

Even if he does appear to be unliked by players, Esp those who wanted more money at Manly to end their careers. However, I've met him, for 5 secs, and he was happy to stop and say hi.

DCE is the type of player that can win u a premiership. Esp with the right weapons around him. Something we have in spades.

The "D head policy" goes out the window for these kind of players. You'd sell your soul for 1, coz that's how the business works.

The bottom line is....

How much to get him here? My guess is 1 mill a yr, MINIMUM.
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I'm guessing broncos will offload bird for DCE

DCE allegedly signed a deal of $10M over 8 years ($1.25 million per season)

so more than that.
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I’d take him at $1,000,000 per year


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Dusty wrote:I’d take him at $1,000,000 per year


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I can't see us getting DCE but you'd have a crack if he came onto the market. I think Maloney is a more realistic option if there is movement at the Panthers.
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Maloney has had it. DCE... we're not even allowed in that playground.
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Nonsense. He is nearly 3 years younger than Smith, Slater and Cronk.

He had a rough post-origin but he is still a class player.
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DCE sunk Manly by demanding overs at the expense of being able to surround him with a solid team.

You’d have to sell him on taking a pay cut to try and go out with another ring. Doesn’t strike me as a guy who would buy it.

I’d prefer Maloney.

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Northern Raider wrote: October 12, 2018, 11:29 am
Raiders666 wrote: October 11, 2018, 11:40 am Ken Sio for depth?
No thanks. They only reason he's playing NRL is because the Knights lacked quality outside backs. Happy to stick with Oldfield as our no3 winger.
Yeah, last position I'd be chasing. Especially anyone above minimum. Oldfield was pretty good last year. One absolute blinding game, one or two solid games, one poor one at centre from memory but then also a solid one at centre against a decent opponent. Haven't double checked but that's about my read on him.

I have confidence that Oldy will do a job when I see him on the sheet. Good size for ricking out our end. Can tackle ok. Great speed and can finish. The odd error but that's why he's not a mid tier NRL winger.
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Green eyed Mick wrote: October 12, 2018, 3:59 pm Nonsense. He is nearly 3 years younger than Smith, Slater and Cronk.

He had a rough post-origin but he is still a class player.
And like Cronk and Smith, it's not like he relies on pure physicality either. He's a pretty complete half in all key departments with a winning mentality. Ok, his tackling isn't crash hot but he's not worse than Williams or Austin and his upside is daylight ahead of theirs.

Don't think he's even leaving/we'll get him, just conjecturing on his status as a player.
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BadnMean wrote: October 12, 2018, 6:40 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: October 12, 2018, 3:59 pm Nonsense. He is nearly 3 years younger than Smith, Slater and Cronk.

He had a rough post-origin but he is still a class player.
And like Cronk and Smith, it's not like he relies on pure physicality either. He's a pretty complete half in all key departments with a winning mentality. Ok, his tackling isn't crash hot but he's not worse than Williams or Austin and his upside is daylight ahead of theirs.

Don't think he's even leaving/we'll get him, just conjecturing on his status as a player.
Maloney has been the worst defender in the league for yrs. Regularly posts 100+++ missed tackles. Not sure where you are getting that comparion from
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I never liked DCE but I have always liked his style as a player. As a bloke, I had no idea, except that once a few years ago I was pushing a wheelchair along the boardwalk type area at Manly and got into a bit of difficulty and nobody gave me any help except out of nowhere came DCE to sort out the problem. He stayed with us for a few minutes to ensure we were OK and then went on his way. He seemed a real nice bloke and so I changed my mind about him. As a player he seems very intense which may cause some friction but as a signing at $1M or there abouts I think he is real value.
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I would offload BJ and Wighton for DCE. Oldfield to fill one spot. Cotric to FB and sign Milne to a minimal deal
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Manchild wrote:I would offload BJ and Wighton for DCE. Oldfield to fill one spot. Cotric to FB and sign Milne to a minimal deal
You wouldn't even hesitate
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Anyone who wouldn't want DCE is just insane. I wanted him when he was in the 20s.

I can't really see it happening though. However he'd make up for a lot of deficiencies.
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If it was 1987 and the GH existed there would've been at least one person saying No to signing Mal.
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Lol at taking Maloney over DCE.

That is all time.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote:Lol at taking Maloney over DCE.

That is all time.
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Manchild wrote: October 12, 2018, 8:35 pm
julian87 wrote:Lol at taking Maloney over DCE.

That is all time.
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edwahu wrote:If it was 1987 and the GH existed there would've been at least one person saying No to signing Mal.
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People aren't saying they don't want players like DCE. It is just that it is never going to happen. Never, ever.

The Roosters have the gall and clout to shift on Mitchell Pearce to sign Cooper Cronk.

The Raiders would NEVER do that. Our club doesn't have that gall or clout to do it. And we've mismanaged the salary cap so badly we can't do it. The cap is apparently so full we release Junior Paulo, Blake Austin, and Shannon Boyd and can't sign a a half. Just one top second rower and a fringe benchie forward.

That is where we are as a club. It's distressing. It's depressing. But that's where we are.
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Manchild wrote: October 12, 2018, 8:35 pm
julian87 wrote:Lol at taking Maloney over DCE.

That is all time.
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T_R wrote:
Manchild wrote:I would offload BJ and Wighton for DCE. Oldfield to fill one spot. Cotric to FB and sign Milne to a minimal deal
You wouldn't even hesitate
I think David Milne retired unfortunately.

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Matt wrote: October 12, 2018, 6:55 pm
BadnMean wrote: October 12, 2018, 6:40 pm
Green eyed Mick wrote: October 12, 2018, 3:59 pm Nonsense. He is nearly 3 years younger than Smith, Slater and Cronk.

He had a rough post-origin but he is still a class player.
And like Cronk and Smith, it's not like he relies on pure physicality either. He's a pretty complete half in all key departments with a winning mentality. Ok, his tackling isn't crash hot but he's not worse than Williams or Austin and his upside is daylight ahead of theirs.

Don't think he's even leaving/we'll get him, just conjecturing on his status as a player.
Maloney has been the worst defender in the league for yrs. Regularly posts 100+++ missed tackles. Not sure where you are getting that comparion from
I was just guessing
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Let's face it, DCE either goes to Brisbane with Bird booted, or the Roosters as Cronks replacement.
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edwahu wrote:Let's face it, DCE either goes to Brisbane with Bird booted, or the Roosters as Cronks replacement.
Well that's how the salary cap works.

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Attack is not our biggest issue. Defence is. Of the two people Matt initially mentioned I'd take Maguire as a new coach to fix our biggest problem. We've all seen the impact Sticky has on halves. I'm sure players have as well.
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Knights apparently have 2.2m to spend on 6 spots next year, yet couldn't sign TPJ.
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Are we really going to do this to ourselves the whole off season.

Early on in the week it was SJ, now DCE.

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greeneyed wrote:
Manchild wrote: October 12, 2018, 8:35 pm
julian87 wrote:Lol at taking Maloney over DCE.

That is all time.
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Manchild... not directed at you specifically, but there seem to be a lot of people these days wanting to criticise... but not a lot of people wanting to step up and do any work for the site. Would be nice if more people jumped in and put their own opinions on the line. Or maybe posted stories and links?
I think that was directed at me just quitely. No wonder I dont post here much anymore. Have a bit of a joke/banter and get jumped on.
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Manchild wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
Manchild wrote: October 12, 2018, 8:35 pm
julian87 wrote:Lol at taking Maloney over DCE.

That is all time.
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Manchild... not directed at you specifically, but there seem to be a lot of people these days wanting to criticise... but not a lot of people wanting to step up and do any work for the site. Would be nice if more people jumped in and put their own opinions on the line. Or maybe posted stories and links?
I think that was directed at me just quitely. No wonder I dont post here much anymore. Have a bit of a joke/banter and get jumped on.
If you want to take it that way... your call. Seems pretty clear you were just the unfortunate straw that broke GE’s back.

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Of course I would take DCE but there is absolutely no way we could afford him.

I think what’d be more likely would be we could afford Bird if the Broncos agreed to keep a fair bit of his cap on their cooked books. But he’d likely just go back to Sydney.
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gergreg wrote:
edwahu wrote:Let's face it, DCE either goes to Brisbane with Bird booted, or the Roosters as Cronks replacement.
Well that's how the salary cap works.

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