Raiders player signing speculation 2018

[edwahu]

It didn't look like a complete tear, I would be surprised if it impacts his off season.

[greeneyed]

Well I saw the Sharks risking a whole pile of top prospects for the Jets as well today. Did you see it?

You remember when Blake Austin broke his hand in training in 2016? I guess the Raiders should have excused him from that training session.

It’s ridiculous to suggest players shouldn’t play in a finals game.

[Botman]

It’s not a finals game
It’s a reserve grade, i.e literally does not mean a thing.

The sharks are playing as we speak, anyone in that game is clearly not in their best 17.
If the raiders were playing today, and Emre was not in our 17, then by all means play him. We’re not. Because we’re not good enough to be in that position. The sole focus needs to be on rectifying that and Guler is looming a significant part of that plan

We should not be risking any top 17 player. I don’t care how eligible they are. Guler is no longer a reserve grade player, he has no business playing that grade
It’s just not worth the risk

Particularly at a position we are so thin and unproven at.

If he was eligible would you play Josh Hodgson in this game? Josh Papalii? Jarrod Croker? Jordan Rapana?

[greeneyed]

You’re wrong yet again Pigman. As you so often are. Players cannot be kept in cotton wool and injuries can happen at any time. Players are paid to play and playing a finals game in reserves would have been good experience for Guler. We will wait and see what the result is, no one wants to see the young bloke suffer an injury, possibly a serious one. But there is no more or less risk playing Guler in a dead rubber in firsts in Auckland than a finals game in NSW premiership.

[Dusty]

I’m with GE on this one?

How did Knight go?


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[edwahu]

I’m with GE on this one?

How did Knight go?


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Like the whole team he was awol for 60 minutes. Then had a few good moments in the last 20.

[gerg]

It probably rates as a meaningless game but I'm sure Guler himself would have insisted on playing an important game with the mates he has played with most of the year.

[Neeeegz]

GE is right pigman wrong. Again

[Ruben Daley]

It probably rates as a meaningless game but I'm sure Guler himself would have insisted on playing an important game with the mates he has played with most of the year.

Exactly. And the benefit of this for Guler as an individual and for the club culture makes it worth it.

[Manchild]

NSWRL Cup isnt meaningless. If your player is eligible he plays goddamit. You have lost it mate

[RedRaider]

I just looked up DR Google. Three gradings to a pec injury. Grade 1 is considered minor strain. Grade 2 is more severe and involves a partial tearing which is a 3 to 6 week recovery. Grade 3 is a complete tearing and is a 3 to 6 month recovery period. I guess we will know for sure when pre-season training begins in November. If he is available for that then the injury is likely a Grade 1 or 2. If he cannot train then, it is a Grade 3 and we hopefully have him back to start season 2019.

There is a different kind of pressure in playing finals footy no matter what the grade. Some will thrive and others will be Abbey-smal. It is best to find out in lower grades if possible. Injury is an unfortunate part of our game. But players accept the risk every time they go out to play. Young blokes generally want to play as much footy as they can, particularly with those they have played most of the season with. Guler was eligible so he got picked and played. Unfortunate to be injured but that's footy. I have much more faith in the Clubs rehab abilities in 2018 than was the case in the TLL days.

[Raiders666]

Haha **** have i just read...Pigman has been hacked surely

[creevy]

Saw an article that Luke Gale an English international halfback from Castleford wants to play NRL. Anyone know anything about him?. 30 years old but might be worth a punt for 2 seasons if he is prepared to come cheaply.

[Botman]

It probably rates as a meaningless game but I'm sure Guler himself would have insisted on playing an important game with the mates he has played with most of the year.

I'm very sure that's is the case.
Players want to play. But he's not a RG player anymore and the risk was not worth the reward.

"Appreciate your passion Emre, and we'll make it clear to the coaching staff and player group that you are desperate to play and this is a club decision, not yours. We understand the disappointment, but you're a player we are building around for 2019 and beyond. Enjoy your off season, 2019 is going to be a really significant year for you and your career."

But there is no more or less risk playing Guler in a dead rubber in firsts in Auckland than a finals game in NSW premiership.

Dead rubber against NZ is a FG game, he needs FG experience. He needs to be playing football against grown men who are of a certain quality. That helps his development. The risk to injury is no different, but the rewards are considerable. I dont think running him up against part time tradies, and a bunch of guys who clearly arent in his level is helpful enough for his development to risk a player that, frankly, we're really going to need in 2019.

Let's not forget, the Mounties had themselves a pretty damn good win IN THE FINALS the week before without these guys. Why should any of those dudes lose their spot? They earned that win, they earned the chance to go and do it again the following week.

But clearly im on my own here, which is fine, apparently everyone else thinks Reserve grade premierships are worth it. So let's see. Hopefully the injury isnt serious. But if Guler is out for the first half of 2019, we'll see how that pans out for the club and player.

[Dusty]

‘Reports’ / rumours that a young raiders forward was spotted in talks with Brad Arthur and the mail is that it’s for 2019.

Buzz in the Sunday Telegraph


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Probably Royce Hunt, he's fallen off the radar

[Raider47]

Or Liam Knight or perhaps even Murchie with the probability he's now behind the pecking order even more with J.Bateman.

[Dusty]

In my opinion we have a couple of young guys that we must keep... Cotric and Horsburgh are at the top of that list, Murchie is probably next. Knight too because he’d come relatively cheap


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[bonehead]

Guler is a 3 game bench rookie, who I really rate but playing in a semi against men is no issue to me.

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[RTW]

‘Reports’ / rumours that a young raiders forward was spotted in talks with Brad Arthur and the mail is that it’s for 2019.

Buzz in the Sunday Telegraph


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Knight was reportedly talking with them earlier in the season. He has another year to run on his contract and considering Guler may very well have suffered a long term injury we would be crazy to let him go early.

Having said that we really should be making a call on him in the off season. If we see him as a first grader we need to extend his contract now before he earns himself an upgrade by playing 20 odd games in 2019.

[gerg]

It probably rates as a meaningless game but I'm sure Guler himself would have insisted on playing an important game with the mates he has played with most of the year.

I'm very sure that's is the case.
Players want to play. But he's not a RG player anymore and the risk was not worth the reward.

"Appreciate your passion Emre, and we'll make it clear to the coaching staff and player group that you are desperate to play and this is a club decision, not yours. We understand the disappointment, but you're a player we are building around for 2019 and beyond. Enjoy your off season, 2019 is going to be a really significant year for you and your career."

I understand where you're coming from and kind of agree with you, but we all know how sensitive some of these young guys are and it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. You start preventing these guys playing when they want to play, they could potentially walk out on the club.

[FROG]

Pigman. I get why you're disappointed. We all are, but to suggest that this somehow the raiders fault is highly off the mark. There is plenty the raiders do get wrong, but on this occasion it genuinely was just bad luck. Hopefully it doesn't disrupt his off season, cause if we are to play any September football next year, this guy is going to have to play most if not all first grade games next year

[dubby]

Probably Royce Hunt, he's fallen off the radar

I think you're right.

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[Brew]

It probably rates as a meaningless game but I'm sure Guler himself would have insisted on playing an important game with the mates he has played with most of the year.

I'm very sure that's is the case.
Players want to play. But he's not a RG player anymore and the risk was not worth the reward.

"Appreciate your passion Emre, and we'll make it clear to the coaching staff and player group that you are desperate to play and this is a club decision, not yours. We understand the disappointment, but you're a player we are building around for 2019 and beyond. Enjoy your off season, 2019 is going to be a really significant year for you and your career."

But there is no more or less risk playing Guler in a dead rubber in firsts in Auckland than a finals game in NSW premiership.

Dead rubber against NZ is a FG game, he needs FG experience. He needs to be playing football against grown men who are of a certain quality. That helps his development. The risk to injury is no different, but the rewards are considerable. I dont think running him up against part time tradies, and a bunch of guys who clearly arent in his level is helpful enough for his development to risk a player that, frankly, we're really going to need in 2019.

Let's not forget, the Mounties had themselves a pretty damn good win IN THE FINALS the week before without these guys. Why should any of those dudes lose their spot? They earned that win, they earned the chance to go and do it again the following week.

But clearly im on my own here, which is fine, apparently everyone else thinks Reserve grade premierships are worth it. So let's see. Hopefully the injury isnt serious. But if Guler is out for the first half of 2019, we'll see how that pans out for the club and player.

So a young kid plays 3 games of first grade and that’s it he is not a reserve grader anymore? Is that the same for Abbey?
Have a lie down mate.


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[gerg]

C'mon that's just silly. There's no comparison between Guler and Abbey.

[edwahu]

If Knight goes to Parra that leaves us on 22 definites in the squad. So even if they upgrade Horsburgh, Kris, O'Hagan and maybe Hala there must be a few signings and upgrades to come.

[Botman]

C'mon that's just silly. There's no comparison between Guler and Abbey.

Haha, talk about needing a lie down

[cat]

Probably Royce Hunt, he's fallen off the radar

Or its junior paulo, and buzz is saying this to make us all speculate lol

I bet he puts these little rumours out there and trolls all the forums laughing his head off

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[BigPapa]

In my opinion we have a couple of young guys that we must keep... Cotric and Horsburgh are at the top of that list, Murchie is probably next. Knight too because he’d come relatively cheap


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Cotric I can agree on but if Guler is not next priority then I'll be dammed.

[julian87]

C'mon that's just silly. There's no comparison between Guler and Abbey.

I’m not sure what to make of this.

[kiwi raider]

Probably Royce Hunt, he's fallen off the radar

I think you're right.

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I’m not sure any coach is signing a squad filler 12 months out from there contract being up, more likely it’s the eels having a crack Tapine

[edwahu]

Eels forum says Knight and it seems more likely.

Tapine can't talk to anyone publically and zero chance of an early release, plus career wise it would be crazy.

[edwahu]

C'mon that's just silly. There's no comparison between Guler and Abbey.

I’m not sure what to make of this.

That Guler is a way better prospect than Abbey?

[Velda]

The next re-signing has to be Tapine, he’s off contract at the end of this season. There were some whispers we were interested in Gale at the same time the Bateman stuff started but went quiet pretty quick

[edwahu]

The next re-signing has to be Tapine, he’s off contract at the end of this season. There were some whispers we were interested in Gale at the same time the Bateman stuff started but went quiet pretty quick

He is off contract end of 2020, so I wouldn't think they would extend him until late in the year.

Rapana would be the next I think, he can get approached from November.