Raiders player signing speculation 2018

[Matt]

Amazing how much depth the Panthers have...both back up halves are guns and how good is Hetherington. Surely they can't keep them all.

Hetherington and Luai both off contract too

Kiwi, I would rather go after these 2 as a package than dump a motza in the Corey Norman, going nowhere, train. Particularly Luai. We lose a speedy halves player because he doesn't want to be here and pick up a young bloke with similar skills and far more upside.

Luai has one more year left to run on his contract at Penrith. He was interviewed on triple m on Sat and interestingly said something along the lines of I have one more year left at Penrith. It would suggest he knows he has to move on to get a chance.

Penrith have been very good at firstly developing juniors but secondly allowing them to move on if a first grade contract is offered elsewhere.

Gus has said 'Hands off'.

[Coastalraider]

Amazing how much depth the Panthers have...both back up halves are guns and how good is Hetherington. Surely they can't keep them all.

Hetherington and Luai both off contract too

Kiwi, I would rather go after these 2 as a package than dump a motza in the Corey Norman, going nowhere, train. Particularly Luai. We lose a speedy halves player because he doesn't want to be here and pick up a young bloke with similar skills and far more upside.

Luai has one more year left to run on his contract at Penrith. He was interviewed on triple m on Sat and interestingly said something along the lines of I have one more year left at Penrith. It would suggest he knows he has to move on to get a chance.

Penrith have been very good at firstly developing juniors but secondly allowing them to move on if a first grade contract is offered elsewhere.

Gus has said 'Hands off'.

Gus also said Cartwright would stay at the club to work through his problems, and Moylan has no issues with the coach.

Gus says whatever is appropriate at the time, with little relevance to fact.

[Matt]

^^^
Yes CR, but he is the top dog too. So, it usually has a meaning or slant to it.

[Coastalraider]

^^^
Yes CR, but he is the top dog too. So, it usually has a meaning or slant to it.

I agree, its actually quite fascinating trying to figure out the agenda behind his comments.

[summitone77]

That Penrith Half Luai is the most goddamn perfect target for us. Take a punt on a talented youngster giving him slightly more than his market to get him here - which is still a cheap get on the cap. Attacking player with a good short kick and running game.

I am a Penrith local so I am on their fan pages a bit too, and they are still not convinced about Luai themselves. They have a bigger wrap on May. Luai stepped up on the weekend, but he has not played anywhere near that in the ISP apparently. Carved it up in the under 20s, but hasn't quite reached those heights in NSW Cup yet. Definite raw talent is there though.

[Dibbers]

That Penrith Half Luai is the most goddamn perfect target for us. Take a punt on a talented youngster giving him slightly more than his market to get him here - which is still a cheap get on the cap. Attacking player with a good short kick and running game.

I am a Penrith local so I am on their fan pages a bit too, and they are still not convinced about Luai themselves. They have a bigger wrap on May. Luai stepped up on the weekend, but he has not played anywhere near that in the ISP apparently. Carved it up in the under 20s, but hasn't quite reached those heights in NSW Cup yet. Definite raw talent is there though.

And we have the perfect coach to turn him into a super.... no... wait... hes a half you say??? Never mind

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[woppadingo]

Can we have a coach signing speculation thread?
Hows our defence coach going?

[RedRaider]

That Penrith Half Luai is the most goddamn perfect target for us. Take a punt on a talented youngster giving him slightly more than his market to get him here - which is still a cheap get on the cap. Attacking player with a good short kick and running game.

I am a Penrith local so I am on their fan pages a bit too, and they are still not convinced about Luai themselves. They have a bigger wrap on May. Luai stepped up on the weekend, but he has not played anywhere near that in the ISP apparently. Carved it up in the under 20s, but hasn't quite reached those heights in NSW Cup yet. Definite raw talent is there though.

I agree Beejay, I think a young player with some Josh Hodgson on field direction, would have a faster track to development. He sure has the natural talent. The Raiders need another halves player for next season and at this point of his career he is not going to break the bank. He is also a more, like for like, player in that he is a quick running half and would be replacing a similar type player.

[Botman]

The club need to make a call on kids like this

Sit down, look at guys like May, Laui and whoever else is waiting for a FG spot, decide who they feel is the best bet and make the godfather offer. 500k right now to kids like that is WAAAAY overs, but that's the type of gamble we've got to seriously take.

Getting rid of Austin isn't even half the job of fixing the halves. We need to get someone who is an upgrade to replace him and we either need to fix Sezer or replace him too.

[dubby]

That Penrith Half Luai is the most goddamn perfect target for us. Take a punt on a talented youngster giving him slightly more than his market to get him here - which is still a cheap get on the cap. Attacking player with a good short kick and running game.

He'd fold like a cheap suit under the pressure of weekly NRL expectations and pressure.

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[VictorTheViking]

I hear they rate ohagan and westcott quite highly, not having seen much of either what are they like?

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[bonehead]

The club need to make a call on kids like this

Sit down, look at guys like May, Laui and whoever else is waiting for a FG spot, decide who they feel is the best bet and make the godfather offer. 500k right now to kids like that is WAAAAY overs, but that's the type of gamble we've got to seriously take.

Getting rid of Austin isn't even half the job of fixing the halves. We need to get someone who is an upgrade to replace him and we either need to fix Sezer or replace him too.

I think it's called "Ponga'ing"

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[greeneyed]

I hear they rate ohagan and westcott quite highly, not having seen much of either what are they like?

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My understanding is the club rates O'Hagan too... not heard on Westcott, but he's looked good in the Canberra Raiders Cup games I've watched. I'm impressed by both of them. Both are good organisers.

[Love4Noa]

Hetherington and Luai both off contract too

Kiwi, I would rather go after these 2 as a package than dump a motza in the Corey Norman, going nowhere, train. Particularly Luai. We lose a speedy halves player because he doesn't want to be here and pick up a young bloke with similar skills and far more upside.

Luai has one more year left to run on his contract at Penrith. He was interviewed on triple m on Sat and interestingly said something along the lines of I have one more year left at Penrith. It would suggest he knows he has to move on to get a chance.

Penrith have been very good at firstly developing juniors but secondly allowing them to move on if a first grade contract is offered elsewhere.

Gus has said 'Hands off'.

Gus also said Cartwright would stay at the club to work through his problems, and Moylan has no issues with the coach.

Gus says whatever is appropriate at the time, with little relevance to fact.

Gus is clearly doing things better at Penrith than we are in Canberra.
They've blooded a bunch of great young players and the work that team does in the community is huge.

Penrith is currently towelling Canberra in all facets - so whilst he may say what's appropriate. He's tried, He's tested - and he's come through. Check your stats.

[Botman]

That Penrith Half Luai is the most goddamn perfect target for us. Take a punt on a talented youngster giving him slightly more than his market to get him here - which is still a cheap get on the cap. Attacking player with a good short kick and running game.

He'd fold like a cheap suit under the pressure of weekly NRL expectations and pressure.

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Strange thing to say unless you've got some intimate knowledge of the kid and his mental make up

[Botman]

I hear they rate ohagan and westcott quite highly, not having seen much of either what are they like?

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Yeah ive heard that too... i guess i fall into the group of people who thinks you should have as many eggs in the basket as you can. If we signed Laui or May for 500k and ended up having an overpriced back up playing for Mounties in 3 years because O'Hagan is a stud... well that'd be a good situation for us

[Beejay]

Lots of talented players have come into first grade and had a couple of good games, or a decent first year. Bit of a lottery to those that really kick on. Doubt you’d have picked Cronk’s ceiling at 18.
Got to take a punt.

[Coastalraider]

Kiwi, I would rather go after these 2 as a package than dump a motza in the Corey Norman, going nowhere, train. Particularly Luai. We lose a speedy halves player because he doesn't want to be here and pick up a young bloke with similar skills and far more upside.

Luai has one more year left to run on his contract at Penrith. He was interviewed on triple m on Sat and interestingly said something along the lines of I have one more year left at Penrith. It would suggest he knows he has to move on to get a chance.

Penrith have been very good at firstly developing juniors but secondly allowing them to move on if a first grade contract is offered elsewhere.

Gus has said 'Hands off'.

Gus also said Cartwright would stay at the club to work through his problems, and Moylan has no issues with the coach.

Gus says whatever is appropriate at the time, with little relevance to fact.

Gus is clearly doing things better at Penrith than we are in Canberra.
They've blooded a bunch of great young players and the work that team does in the community is huge.

Penrith is currently towelling Canberra in all facets - so whilst he may say what's appropriate. He's tried, He's tested - and he's come through. Check your stats.

I dont disagree with any of that Noa, my comment was aimed at admiring the way he moulds the commentary to suit his objectives. He has a fantastic footy brain, has developed easily the best pathways system in the sport, and is starting to reap the rewards for that.

Whilst he regularly annoys me as a commentator, I either agree with him fully in his opinions, or understand why he is taking a particular stance to benefit his team.

I dream of the day we have a GM like him.

[julian87]

I didn’t want to post again. But can’t help myself on this topic.

I think it would be a huge mistake entering the halves market without an obvious target. We’d be better off with a hole in the cap hoping something opens up. If it doesn’t you go stop gap for. Year you’re not winning anything with Jacks ****.

[El_Capitano]

Kiwi, I would rather go after these 2 as a package than dump a motza in the Corey Norman, going nowhere, train. Particularly Luai. We lose a speedy halves player because he doesn't want to be here and pick up a young bloke with similar skills and far more upside.

Luai has one more year left to run on his contract at Penrith. He was interviewed on triple m on Sat and interestingly said something along the lines of I have one more year left at Penrith. It would suggest he knows he has to move on to get a chance.

Penrith have been very good at firstly developing juniors but secondly allowing them to move on if a first grade contract is offered elsewhere.

Gus has said 'Hands off'.

Gus also said Cartwright would stay at the club to work through his problems, and Moylan has no issues with the coach.

Gus says whatever is appropriate at the time, with little relevance to fact.

Gus is clearly doing things better at Penrith than we are in Canberra.
They've blooded a bunch of great young players and the work that team does in the community is huge.

Penrith is currently towelling Canberra in all facets - so whilst he may say what's appropriate. He's tried, He's tested - and he's come through. Check your stats.

Penrith has the largest junior stable in Australia (I think)


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[-TW-]

We've also basically given up investing in juniors, and have started trying to poach

[greeneyed]

Sadly.

[gerg]

I didn’t want to post again. But can’t help myself on this topic.

I think it would be a huge mistake entering the halves market without an obvious target. We’d be better off with a hole in the cap hoping something opens up. If it doesn’t you go stop gap for. Year you’re not winning anything with Jacks ****.

Probably give you an unprovoked uppercut while you're sitting on the throne minding your own business.

[RedRaider]

I think we are already in the business of 'providing opportunity' (some say poaching) of other Clubs promising juniors. Wasn't O'Hagan originally from Newcastle area like Tevita Pangai jnr? Corey Horsburgh (spelling) was from Nth Qld. In the case of Luai there is a halves player, which is an area we need to strengthen, who has similar skills to a player we are losing.

Dubs, no one knows how each individual will react under pressure until - they are put under pressure. Other than Papa the club seems to be offering 2 year deals. I would look at something the same for Luai with the usual options for extensions. He is already used to playing against men in that he plays in the same division as Mounties. He has gone into FG and had a cracker of a game. He would be looking for FG opportunity and we can offer that. He knows he is parked behind a successful State of Origin halfback so his chances of progression at Penrith are limited.

[the bone]

I imagine Luai will want to see what Nathan Cleary is doing before he looks elsewhere. If Cleary leaves the Panthers, there’s an opportunity for Luai


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[Dusty]

I think we are already in the business of 'providing opportunity' (some say poaching) of other Clubs promising juniors. Wasn't O'Hagan originally from Newcastle area like Tevita Pangai jnr? Corey Horsburgh (spelling) was from Nth Qld. In the case of Luai there is a halves player, which is an area we need to strengthen, who has similar skills to a player we are losing.

Dubs, no one knows how each individual will react under pressure until - they are put under pressure. Other than Papa the club seems to be offering 2 year deals. I would look at something the same for Luai with the usual options for extensions. He is already used to playing against men in that he plays in the same division as Mounties. He has gone into FG and had a cracker of a game. He would be looking for FG opportunity and we can offer that. He knows he is parked behind a successful State of Origin halfback so his chances of progression at Penrith are limited.

O’Hagan is a Central Coast Junior. He was in the Knights system until the end of 2016. Went back to his local team (Berkeley Vale) and played a season of local 1st grade/A Grade. He was seen by the raiders playing in the U 23 country championships


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[Wiki Special]

I agree with Pigman. And the player we need to offer the 'overs' money to is Tyrone May. Unless we already know he is not interested in joining the Raiders it is absolutely extraordinary that we aren't making a play for him. I know some Penrith locals who felt he was a better prospect than Cleary coming through the junior grades. Even if that is proven incorrect it shows the regard he is held in.

[Matt]

We've also basically given up investing in juniors, and have started trying to poach

NRL have no interest in jrs.
We held onto that pathway as long as we could.

[Sydney_Raider]

Mole saying Baptiste to return to Raiders next year.

[El_Capitano]

Mole saying Baptiste to return to Raiders next year.

Good super sub but has to be on at cheap price.


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[BigPapa]

I agree with Pigman. And the player we need to offer the 'overs' money to is Tyrone May. Unless we already know he is not interested in joining the Raiders it is absolutely extraordinary that we aren't making a play for him. I know some Penrith locals who felt he was a better prospect than Cleary coming through the junior grades. Even if that is proven incorrect it shows the regard he is held in.

May would be my #1 target also. I think Kotoni Staggs is another young kid with a big future.

[El_Capitano]

NRL360 said Tapau is being shopped around... can we get in on that?


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[Raiders666]

NRL360 said Tapau is being shopped around... can we get in on that?


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Pretty certain he is way out of our price range...We will only get squad fillers until 2020

[RTW]

I agree with Pigman. And the player we need to offer the 'overs' money to is Tyrone May. Unless we already know he is not interested in joining the Raiders it is absolutely extraordinary that we aren't making a play for him. I know some Penrith locals who felt he was a better prospect than Cleary coming through the junior grades. Even if that is proven incorrect it shows the regard he is held in.

May would be my #1 target also. I think Kotoni Staggs is another young kid with a big future.

I’m a big fan of Stagg’s it Broncos have him locked up long term and are showing him that he has a path into the NRL so I can’t see him leaving. Especially to us who have pretty set starting centres and second rowers.

[edwahu]

We really should be trying to move players on to get Tapau.