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What happened at the ground after the game??
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greeneyed wrote:I personally believe five weeks is too severe, when you look at other suspensions... Jordan McLean being one that sticks in my mind.

Three or maybe four, but sending this straight to the judiciary, as if it were intentional and one of the worst ever tackles... is unfair.
McLean got 7 weeks - poor guy in wheelchair
Marty Tapau 1 week (I don't know if Bird played the following week)
Greg Inglis 3 weeks for SOO shoulder charge - Dugan broken jaw, can't remember how many weeks he was out
Ryan James - not even sighted 0 weeks, Tedesco broken jaw, James argued he was slipping

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Sia 5 weeks - Slater trained today
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Bingo! Nailed it.

Last year our captain was hit, from behind, late, off the ball, deliberately, with the shoulder, to the head. There was no penalty. Croker was not falling. The little nasty **** who did it got a grand total of three weeks. Now there are Raiders fans saying Sia deserved MORE?

Last year Smith put in a dog shot on Croker in the Prelim, hitting him from behind, in an area where he was already injured, off the ball, in fact when the play was even dead. Not only was it not a penalty, not reported, no suspension, there were even pundits who PRAISED Smith for how clever he was to be able to do such a thing and get away with it!

If anyone thinks the reputation of the players involved doesn't matter, they are nothing more than ignorant fools. It absolutely matters. If that had been Smith laying out Aiden Sezer the media would not have given a flying camel!
How come your precious posts have been edited out??

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The Nickman wrote:What happened at the ground after the game??
Nothing happened at the ground after the game. He's having a cry over some morons that sit near him that were laughing and carrying on when Slater got hit.

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A halt to the name calling and infighting, please. Posts that don't comply with this moderator request will be deleted.
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Casual reminder that the sharks drug cheats got 3 weeks.
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Prod prod.
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4,6 8, 20 weeks. I couldn't give a rats ****.
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-TW- wrote:I'm pretty disheartened tbh.. some of the stuff that went on at the game and then afterwards has been disgraceful

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I'm not angry that he is hard done by as we cannot make the finals.

But i want to bring up last year when before the finals (i) Wighton got charged for grade 2 against Wests (Joel Edwards); and (ii) in the Cronulla v. Storm game, Ennis somehow escaped suspension for a blatant shoulder charge.

Buettner (MRC) and the Judiciary are so inconsistent.

Even when dropping referees - someone Cecchin and Bryan Norrie survived the axe !
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I just read on the DT website that Billy can't remember anything from the last two weeks because of the hit


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Notaroboticfish wrote:I just read on the DT website that Billy can't remember anything from the last two weeks because of the hit


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Yeah but the penalty is still too harsh..

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I just read on the DT website that Billy can't remember anything from the last two weeks because of the hit


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Did Slater ever get suspended for any of these?
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote:Image

Did Slater ever get suspended for any of these?
I wonder if they took into account that he was falling?
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Question wrote:4,6 8, 20 weeks. I couldn't give a rats ****.
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Anyone who is legitimately blowing up about how this has been handled is honestly kidding themselves.

Yes Billy slipped, but if you come in that late and quite high and get it wrong, you deserve to cop a big punishment. How he stayed on the field is mind-blowing.

I have said 4 weeks seemed appropriate, 5 i can live with. Those bagging out Billy for whatever reason, have a look at yourself, no matter what player Sia KO'd he was doing time and plenty of it.

Yes this is a Raiders forum, but some of the comments I've seen on public FB posts suggesting that we are being shafted are embarrassing. You're giving raiders fans a bad name, fans who are generally some of the more educated and mild-mannered across the competition.
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Sydney Raider wrote:Anyone who is legitimately blowing up about how this has been handled is honestly kidding themselves.

Yes Billy slipped, but if you come in that late and quite high and get it wrong, you deserve to cop a big punishment. How he stayed on the field is mind-blowing.

I have said 4 weeks seemed appropriate, 5 i can live with. Those bagging out Billy for whatever reason, have a look at yourself, no matter what player Sia KO'd he was doing time and plenty of it.

Yes this is a Raiders forum, but some of the comments I've seen on public FB posts suggesting that we are being shafted are embarrassing. You're giving raiders fans a bad name, fans who are generally some of the more educated and mild-mannered across the competition.
Firstly ill say yeah he deserved a suspension but...

You agree with the way this whole debacle has been handled?? Its been a **** dogs breakfast from start to finish....your kidding yourself mate.

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VictorTheViking wrote:
Sydney Raider wrote:Anyone who is legitimately blowing up about how this has been handled is honestly kidding themselves.

Yes Billy slipped, but if you come in that late and quite high and get it wrong, you deserve to cop a big punishment. How he stayed on the field is mind-blowing.

I have said 4 weeks seemed appropriate, 5 i can live with. Those bagging out Billy for whatever reason, have a look at yourself, no matter what player Sia KO'd he was doing time and plenty of it.

Yes this is a Raiders forum, but some of the comments I've seen on public FB posts suggesting that we are being shafted are embarrassing. You're giving raiders fans a bad name, fans who are generally some of the more educated and mild-mannered across the competition.
Firstly ill say yeah he deserved a suspension but...

You agree with the way this whole debacle has been handled?? Its been a **** dogs breakfast from start to finish....your kidding yourself mate.

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Only issue I have is how unprofessional the NRL was about publishing the result with the headline Sia in 5 weeks... they've been absolutely hammered by fans of all clubs on Twitter

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-TW- wrote:Only issue I have is how unprofessional the NRL was about publishing the result with the headline Sia in 5 weeks... they've been absolutely hammered by fans of all clubs on Twitter

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Horse ****....the whole damn thing has been so completely and utterly ****, how often do you get a plethora of ex players and journos howling for a suspension, if it wasnt slater it wouldnt have gotten anywhere near the attention

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Sydney Raider wrote:
VictorTheViking wrote:
Sydney Raider wrote:Anyone who is legitimately blowing up about how this has been handled is honestly kidding themselves.

Yes Billy slipped, but if you come in that late and quite high and get it wrong, you deserve to cop a big punishment. How he stayed on the field is mind-blowing.

I have said 4 weeks seemed appropriate, 5 i can live with. Those bagging out Billy for whatever reason, have a look at yourself, no matter what player Sia KO'd he was doing time and plenty of it.

Yes this is a Raiders forum, but some of the comments I've seen on public FB posts suggesting that we are being shafted are embarrassing. You're giving raiders fans a bad name, fans who are generally some of the more educated and mild-mannered across the competition.
Firstly ill say yeah he deserved a suspension but...

You agree with the way this whole debacle has been handled?? Its been a **** dogs breakfast from start to finish....your kidding yourself mate.

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Other than Archer saying it should have been a send off (I hardly think this is a problem either) we can have absolutely zero complaints.
What Archer did was a major problem, in my view. It prejudiced the whole judiciary process severely. It should never have happened. And that sort of thing should never happen again either. The NRL broke its own guidelines in issuing the statement to boot. The NRL showed little regard for process or that true justice took place for Sia Soliola. The fact Archer has done this before in relation to a charge for a Raiders player... I think Raiders fans are understandably upset.
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-TW- wrote:Only issue I have is how unprofessional the NRL was about publishing the result with the headline Sia in 5 weeks... they've been absolutely hammered by fans of all clubs on Twitter

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It underlined how disrespectful the NRL has been from start to finish.
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Poor Sia, can't believe it. Only because it was one of NRL's untouchables. I was there at the game and have watched on replay, where was there contact with that horrible head

Saw this gem on a facebook post by a raiders page... the bloke needs eyes.
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Sydney Raider wrote:Poor Sia, can't believe it. Only because it was one of NRL's untouchables. I was there at the game and have watched on replay, where was there contact with that horrible head

Saw this gem on a facebook post by a raiders page... the bloke needs eyes.
**** mate, you had me ready to rip you a new one until you reveal it was a Facebook comment


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I actually think its been handled poorly. I cannot for the life of me see why it was bad enough not to get a grade 2 or 3 reckless charge. Referring it straight to the judiciary was unnecessary and the nrl worrying about their public image.

The facts are he essentially got slightly more than a grade 3 charge. Its not like i think hes been hard done by but if he got sent off i reckon he would have just been hit with a grade 2 or 3 reckless.

Still when it got sent straight to the judiciary i was expecting a much worse punishment so on that end its a decent result. Its only a week longer than i think the tackle probably deserved which is a decent result when you knockout one of the nrls biggest stars and there is a media controversy about the tackle
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Wow this thread is amazing.

FTR I think 5 weeks is what it probably deserves but, I long for the day that the NRL shows a shred of consistency with anything it does. Anything. That is always the issue with this organisation. Fans from all clubs point at different incidents and compare the penalty/ies received. That is surely an area that needs to be completely overhauled and fixed before anybody can take any of this seriously. It shouldn't matter what game it is or who you are or who you play for or who the recipient of foul play is, if you strike somebody in the head there should be a set penalty for it. Maybe there already is but clearly the MRC, Judiciary and the NRL are not on the same page with it, hell they're not even reading from the same **** book. The NRL lurches from one knee jerk reaction to the next instead of having any sort of strategic thinking or any vision on how to fix any of the codes issues.
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5 weeks is reasonable, but the whole ordeal was a circus. Full credit to the judiciary, the managed to be professional despite the process rather than because of it.
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Always going to be a suspension and at the end of the day the judiciary made what seems to be a reasonable call despite the hysteria. The only thing is I'm not convinced it is inline with many previous incidents - some have been highlighted here that are reasonable examples with lighter penalties.
I would like to know why it was referred directly to judiciary when it didn't meet the criteria for a direct referral ? Who made that decision?
I would also like to know if the NRL will now enforce their own rules regarding players and officials not commentating on tackles before the MRC or Judiciary?
What is the point of having processes when they simple aren't followed? I do think more would have been made of these things if it was a more high profile club.
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yeh raiders wrote:
julian87 wrote:Image

Did Slater ever get suspended for any of these?
I wonder if they took into account that he was falling?
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Notaroboticfish wrote:I just read on the DT website that Billy can't remember anything from the last two weeks because of the hit


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5 weeks is about right imo.

The only positive...

He'll be back for the finals...
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Notaroboticfish wrote:I just read on the DT website that Billy can't remember anything from the last two weeks because of the hit


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That's what the Storm are claiming. Unconscious for 2-3 minutes, amnesia, etc, etc. Yet he was not taken to the hospital, and we know Calvary is a literal stone's throw from the stadium, no scans, and he even flew home the next day.

Smelling some serious BS with this one. I don't doubt that he was unconscious, but the rest seems very much a put-on.
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julian87 wrote:Image

Did Slater ever get suspended for any of these?
How many people did he knock out that took no further part in the game and can't remember the last two weeks because of it?
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Even then not sure what it has to do with getting hit late and high and being knocked unconscious.
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