2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
20%
Raiders 1-12
3
30%
Draw
0
No votes
Sea Eagles 1-12
1
10%
Sea Eagles 13+
4
40%
 
Total votes: 10

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Crocodile wrote:
Raidersfan wrote:How about the haymaker on Austin .. Bateman had his nose broken last week .. is it only Raiders players that don't have heads
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-PJ- wrote:Just received this text from a mate -

I thought the Raiders did ok with 15 men considering Manly had 15 men all day.
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To quote a former coaching great ... We really need to start doing the Little Things right.

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T_R wrote:To quote a former coaching great ... We really need to start doing the Little Things right.

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How about Whitehead just taking the ball off Tapow on tackle 5 thinking it was a hand over !!

Manly still had 1 play left...

I think a knock on was ruled against Tapow....priceless Mr Sutton.
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RaidingZ wrote:
Crocodile wrote:
Raidersfan wrote:How about the haymaker on Austin .. Bateman had his nose broken last week .. is it only Raiders players that don't have heads
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Did Andy Raymond swallow a sheep ?
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-PJ- wrote:How about Whitehead just taking the ball off Tapow on tackle 5 thinking it was a hand over !!

Manly still had 1 play left...

I think a knock on was ruled against Tapow....priceless Mr Sutton.
2 plays later cherry Evans all over Croker in the ruck and Croker loses it in the play the ball. No penalty - square up complete.


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Haha. A dummy spit and some absolutely fair criticism of our team and that is equal to abandonment. Pull your **** heads in.

This team played like garbage in the first half and has played pretty bloody average all season with little to no improvement. It's time that some accountability is taken. Players need to be put on notice, game plans need to be changed and sprays need to be given.

More likely? We read another 5 articles this week about this and that and then get pumped by Penrith next week. Unless something changes and changes now you can expect that all year.

This isn't good enough. Today isn't good enough. That's reality.

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It's hard to be critical when we were down to 15 and lost it on home ground calls. Leiluas pass was 50/50 but the Manly defence didn't attempt to stop the play they just threw their hands up and the ref gave them the benefit of the doubt. Uate clearly makes a play at the ball and we could of got a penalty that would of given us a chance to win it but once again Manly got the benefit of the doubt. Tough loss to take but it was a great comeback that didn't get the right result, if we found a way to win in gp it would of been the win of the season. Bring on the Panthers next week.
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Pigman wrote:I blame myself for this
I moved seats just before our 2nd try

Sat there right up until GP, then had to go out with the wife and kids (held off as long as my wife would allow me) and watched GP in the car on Foxtel go
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Season pretty much done and dusted, we might scrape the finals but difficult to see us doing much more.

Very disappointing after last season given we know what this roster is capable of.

Yeah, brave effort to come back with some abominable refereeing but we've lost far too many of the close games in the last 10 months and it's killing us. If we were good enough, we would have won more of them.

I thought Sezer sucked, and I have actually in the past stuck up for his role in this side. Austin started the year well but not sure what's been going on with him lately.
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CJR wrote:Haha. A dummy spit and some absolutely fair criticism of our team and that is equal to abandonment. Pull your **** heads in.

This team played like garbage in the first half and has played pretty bloody average all season with little to no improvement. It's time that some accountability is taken. Players need to be put on notice, game plans need to be changed and sprays need to be given.

More likely? We read another 5 articles this week about this and that and then get pumped by Penrith next week. Unless something changes and changes now you can expect that all year.

This isn't good enough. Today isn't good enough. That's reality.

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Any fairdinkum supporter who actually understands how the game is played these days cannot possibly be happy with any of our performances since we beat a busted Titans 6 or 7 rounds ago.
All this feel good BS about "well done lads" "great second half" is dead set embarrasing, as long time and long term suffering Raiders die hards we deserve BETTER with this roster and experience, Rapana is the only bloke in Green (sorry **** grey) i woukd feed after that piss poor effort
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I agree with the sentiments. It's not good enough. If we want to be a leader in this comp (which I thought we might be verging on after last year), we need to be far, far more professional.
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julian87 wrote:Last week I argued that the refereeing was good. Today it was terrible IMO. The only bad call against us was the Taupau/Whitehead incident IMO
You and I agreeing again julian.

Last week I defended the refs too. This week they were there to ref one side. Harshly.
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I can't believe there are actually Manly fans on social media having a whinge about the refereeing. What a pack of gronks.
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Other than the last 10mins of the 1st half (when some fatigue set in) we played as well could be expected. Struggling with two less in the bench and some unlucky calls I thought the players dug in and never gave up. Proud of the boys in what is truly a season without any luck.
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BVRaider wrote:It's hard to be critical when we were down to 15 and lost it on home ground calls. Leiluas pass was 50/50 but the Manly defence didn't attempt to stop the play they just threw their hands up and the ref gave them the benefit of the doubt. Uate clearly makes a play at the ball and we could of got a penalty that would of given us a chance to win it but once again Manly got the benefit of the doubt. Tough loss to take but it was a great comeback that didn't get the right result, if we found a way to win in gp it would of been the win of the season. Bring on the Panthers next week.
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Raidersfan wrote:Other than the last 10mins of the 1st half (when some fatigue set in) we played as well could be expected. Struggling with two less in the bench and some unlucky calls I thought the players dug in and never gave up. Proud of the boys in what is truly a season without any luck.
Haha you can't be the same guy
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Pigman wrote:
Raidersfan wrote:Other than the last 10mins of the 1st half (when some fatigue set in) we played as well could be expected. Struggling with two less in the bench and some unlucky calls I thought the players dug in and never gave up. Proud of the boys in what is truly a season without any luck.
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fulivai wrote:
BVRaider wrote:It's hard to be critical when we were down to 15 and lost it on home ground calls. Leiluas pass was 50/50 but the Manly defence didn't attempt to stop the play they just threw their hands up and the ref gave them the benefit of the doubt. Uate clearly makes a play at the ball and we could of got a penalty that would of given us a chance to win it but once again Manly got the benefit of the doubt. Tough loss to take but it was a great comeback that didn't get the right result, if we found a way to win in gp it would of been the win of the season. Bring on the Panthers next week.
Spot on
Agree

You forgot to mention the obvious offside at the ruck on the Manly line .. haven't seen a more obvious penalty not given .. there was nothing subjective above, it was a penalty
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Crocodile wrote:
RaidingZ wrote:
Crocodile wrote:
Raidersfan wrote:How about the haymaker on Austin .. Bateman had his nose broken last week .. is it only Raiders players that don't have heads
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The raiders remind me of the South African cricket team..... full of potential with guys like Amla and Deviliers.... but the reality is that they are far too inconsistent and will never make it to a final i.e they'll choke in the cricket world cup by bowing out in the semis.

Also, did anyone else laugh when they watched Cherry Evans post match interview when he was continually building us up by saying we are actually a "good team which is well coached" :lol:
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Putting aside our rd 1 performance and Rapana, Papalii and Cotric -

We are now going into rd 14 and apart from Paulo I can honestly say that not one of our other players have improved or shown any sort of form turnaround from Rd 2 onwards consistently.

Yes some players have had a good game here and there or a good half, but for half the season now we are still a team out of form and committing the same basic errors.

Not saying the boys aren't trying at the moment, but something has to give and questions to the coaching staff and valid reasons given as to why we still look "short of a run" come Rd 13.
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Kryptonite wrote:
CJR wrote:Haha. A dummy spit and some absolutely fair criticism of our team and that is equal to abandonment. Pull your **** heads in.

This team played like garbage in the first half and has played pretty bloody average all season with little to no improvement. It's time that some accountability is taken. Players need to be put on notice, game plans need to be changed and sprays need to be given.

More likely? We read another 5 articles this week about this and that and then get pumped by Penrith next week. Unless something changes and changes now you can expect that all year.

This isn't good enough. Today isn't good enough. That's reality.

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I would swap Austin and Boyd for Maloney and Klemmer tomorrow
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Northern Raider wrote:
Aero wrote:Another golden point where our defenders still wait back and let the opposition come up

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scotchberry wrote:Putting aside our rd 1 performance and Rapana, Papalii and Cotric -

We are now going into rd 14 and apart from Paulo I can honestly say that not one of our other players have improved or shown any sort of form turnaround from Rd 2 onwards consistently.

Yes some players have had a good game here and there or a good half, but for half the season now we are still a team out of form and committing the same basic errors.

Not saying the boys aren't trying at the moment, but something has to give and questions to the coaching staff and valid reasons given as to why we still look "short of a run" come Rd 13.
Agree. We're as clunky as we were in the early rounds. We are still struggling with basic errors, looking impatient with the football and defending in patches.

Either we had a very relaxed off season and are looking to come home with the kind of form we had just prior to the finals in 2016 or whatever plan Sticky has needs to change.
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Fact 1:

The Raiders is an organisation of "professional administrators and players" who constantly are urging us fans to part with our hard earned to attend games, bye merchandise, become members, travel to support them etc.

Fact 2

I watch my 6 yr old son run around every Saturday morning at Junior league and when he comes off I tell him "great play son", ran straight, tackled hard, "better luck next week if he looses". (Regardless of how he went). He then gets an ice cream or bag of lollies afterwards and we go home and he gets to play around the house for the rest of the weekend.

In summery - I think any fan of this rugby league team has a good given right to criticise and expect basic professionalism and attitude from this mob. We aren't their parents.
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Timbo wrote:
Kryptonite wrote:
CJR wrote:Haha. A dummy spit and some absolutely fair criticism of our team and that is equal to abandonment. Pull your **** heads in.

This team played like garbage in the first half and has played pretty bloody average all season with little to no improvement. It's time that some accountability is taken. Players need to be put on notice, game plans need to be changed and sprays need to be given.

More likely? We read another 5 articles this week about this and that and then get pumped by Penrith next week. Unless something changes and changes now you can expect that all year.

This isn't good enough. Today isn't good enough. That's reality.

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Any fairdinkum supporter who actually understands how the game is played these days cannot possibly be happy with any of our performances since we beat a busted Titans 6 or 7 rounds ago.
All this feel good BS about "well done lads" "great second half" is dead set embarrasing, as long time and long term suffering Raiders die hards we deserve BETTER with this roster and experience, Rapana is the only bloke in Green (sorry **** grey) i woukd feed after that piss poor effort
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Timbo wrote:
Kryptonite wrote:
CJR wrote:Haha. A dummy spit and some absolutely fair criticism of our team and that is equal to abandonment. Pull your **** heads in.

This team played like garbage in the first half and has played pretty bloody average all season with little to no improvement. It's time that some accountability is taken. Players need to be put on notice, game plans need to be changed and sprays need to be given.

More likely? We read another 5 articles this week about this and that and then get pumped by Penrith next week. Unless something changes and changes now you can expect that all year.

This isn't good enough. Today isn't good enough. That's reality.

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Any fairdinkum supporter who actually understands how the game is played these days cannot possibly be happy with any of our performances since we beat a busted Titans 6 or 7 rounds ago.
All this feel good BS about "well done lads" "great second half" is dead set embarrasing, as long time and long term suffering Raiders die hards we deserve BETTER with this roster and experience, Rapana is the only bloke in Green (sorry **** grey) i woukd feed after that piss poor effort
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RaidingZ wrote:
Crocodile wrote:
RaidingZ wrote:
Crocodile wrote:
Raidersfan wrote:How about the haymaker on Austin .. Bateman had his nose broken last week .. is it only Raiders players that don't have heads
I'm canning my Foxtel sports I'm sick of paying the nrl to allow the games to be refereed in this way. If a player infringes penalise them. Had enough of this crap. Image


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There was no question. I was merely replying to your knee jerk sook statement. If you do actually cancel FOX then I will stand corrected and apologize.
It's not a reaction to refereeing in one game it's a decision I'm making after seeing the refs get consistently worse across all games over the past few years. There's no rules except the ones the refs feel like enforcing.

Once upon a time there was an occasional bad call in a game. Now there are many in every game.

The nrl has descended into a game where the team that wins is often the team that can 'bend the rules(cheat)' the best.

This is the last month I'm getting fox sports for 10 dollars and I refuse to pay 28 for it next month when I get a Telstra live pass for free and can still watch the raiders from my laptop for nothing.




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Green eyed Mick wrote:
scotchberry wrote:Putting aside our rd 1 performance and Rapana, Papalii and Cotric -

We are now going into rd 14 and apart from Paulo I can honestly say that not one of our other players have improved or shown any sort of form turnaround from Rd 2 onwards consistently.

Yes some players have had a good game here and there or a good half, but for half the season now we are still a team out of form and committing the same basic errors.

Not saying the boys aren't trying at the moment, but something has to give and questions to the coaching staff and valid reasons given as to why we still look "short of a run" come Rd 13.
Agree. We're as clunky as we were in the early rounds. We are still struggling with basic errors, looking impatient with the football and defending in patches.

Either we had a very relaxed off season and are looking to come home with the kind of form we had just prior to the finals in 2016 or whatever plan Sticky has needs to change.
Yep.

Ultimately the players are the ones responsible for stupid decisions and executing basic skills such as catching the ball.

But the coaching staff have not got this team into any sort of form nor are they showing anything different to what we have seen for half the season.

Yes we came back in the 2nd half to loose a close one after plenty of errors, but that's exactly what happened in rd 4 this yr.

I know people and the media say every week "once we click" - but we are 4 months into the season now and we are still stuck in trail mode
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Last year was a brilliant coaching job by the staff... this year it's been a bit of a greasy horror show

As others have said, there really isn't anyone who is playing to their ability so far. That's VERY concerning
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Yeah, Croc, look I do agree with what your saying regarding this to some extent. I have noticed that we are no chance at a 50/50 call this season and some of the ruck interpretations - especially in our games are odd to say the least. I could have counted 6 easy penalties/decisions that went against us today compared to one with the Whitehead Tapau tackle. We certainly are not getting the rub of the green.


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