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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
2
20%
Raiders 1-12
3
30%
Draw
0
No votes
Sea Eagles 1-12
1
10%
Sea Eagles 13+
4
40%
 
Total votes: 10

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2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

Post by greeneyed » May 30, 2017, 5:25 pm

2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

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Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles
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Round 12 2017. It was a 24-16 win over the Roosters. The Raiders looked like they were in control for much of the match. Yet in the final stages, the Roosters had all the momentum and it looked - for a while - like they would produce an unlikely come from behind win. The Sydney team, missing five Origin representatives, had a chance to level the match in the 74th minute, when a Latrell Mitchell try narrowed the Raiders' lead to 18-16. But Michael Gordon missed the conversion attempt from the sideline. And Canberra not only held on, but pounced on a Roosters' error in the final minute, with an Aidan Sezer try securing the much needed win.


2017 Round 12 Canberra Raiders V Sydney Roosters

More on Round 12: As I saw it

The Raiders head back on the road in Round 13 for a clash with the Manly Sea Eagles at Brookvale Oval. The Raiders have named Josh Papalii to back up from State of Origin duty on Wednesday night. However, Luke Bateman has been ruled out for one to two weeks with a minor thumb injury. Sia Soliola is named at lock. The Sea Eagles have named the same top 17 that defeated the Gold Coast in Round 11 - including their two Origin representatives.

Late changes: The Canberra Raiders have omitted Scott Sorensen and Lachlan Croker from their squad to play the Manly Sea Eagles on Sunday. Royce Hunt and Brent Naden remain on the extended bench. The Sea Eagles have not yet announced which players have been omitted, but Nate Myles is likely to be ruled out with injury.

Matt's Match-ups: Which players win the skins?

Franko's Five: Five things the Raiders should do to beat the Sea Eagles

History: The Canberra Raiders have won 20 of 52 matches against the Manly Sea Eagles and drawn one. That's just under a 40 per cent win rate. Things don't improve when you add in the fixtures the Raiders played against the Northern Eagles - they won just two of six games. Canberra has had some long stretches with limited success against Manly. Until 1989, Canberra won just one match against the team from the northern beaches. And since 2004, the Raiders have won just five matches against the Sea Eagles.

Canberra lost the clash played just weeks ago at Canberra Stadium, 20-18, in golden point. It was a match the Raiders could have, and should have, won. More positively, Canberra won both clashes in 2016 - a 30-18 win in Round 13 at Canberra Stadium and a 44-30 victory in Round 25 at Brookvale.

Canberra has won just three of the last 10 matches between the clubs. The Raiders also have a relatively poor record at Brookvale Oval, winning 10 of 26 games played.


2017 Round 8 Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles


2016 Round 25 Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles


2016 Round 13 Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles

In this week's "History Happens", we go back to 1984 for a Round 23 clash at Seiffert Oval, the first ever win for the Raiders over the Sea Eagles. Sam Backo, Craig Bellamy and Matthew Corkery scored tries for the Green Machine, while Phil Blake and Kerry Boustead scored tries for Manly. In the end, the Raiders ran out 16-12 winners in front of 7,727 people.


1984 Round 23 Canberra Raiders V Manly Sea Eagles

Form: The Raiders have a LLLWW record in the past five matches, while the Sea Eagles are on a LWWLW form line. The Sea Eagles are coming off a bye in Round 12, but were last start winners over the Titans, 30-10.

Betting: The Raiders are now $1.80 favourites. The Sea Eagles are paying $2.05 and have 1.5 points start. The market has shifted towards the Raiders over the week.

Stat attack: It's sixth versus eighth on the ladder - and at the start of the season, not many people would have been tipping that it'd be the Sea Eagles that are ahead of the Raiders. However, both teams have won six matches each.

Attack: The Raiders have now scored more points than any other team (276), but with the bye weekends kicking in, it is the averages that really count. Canberra averages 23 points (four tries) per match, fourth in the competition - while the Sea Eagles rank second in attack (23.6 points or 4.3 tries per match).

The Sea Eagles average a slightly greater share of the ball (50-49 per cent of the ball) and higher completion rate (77-75 per cent) than the Raiders. The Raiders are awarded seven and concede 6.4 penalties per match. In contrast, the Sea Eagles are awarded 6.3 and concede over seven penalties in each game. However, only one team makes fewer errors than the Sea Eagles (9.6 per match), and it's not the Raiders (10.8).

The Sea Eagles make slightly more running metres (1403-1392 metres per match) and neither club are chart toppers. However, both teams make very good metres per run (9.5). The Sea Eagles also make slightly more kick metres than the Raiders (429-412 metres per match).

The Sea Eagles have produced more line breaks (5.4-4.7 per match), offloads (11.7-9.6 per match) and try assists (3.9-3.7 per match) this season. However the Raiders have more tackle breaks (32.8-27.6 per match) than the Sea Eagles - with the Raiders ranked second in the league.

Defence: The Sea Eagles also have slightly better defence. They concede 18.5 points (3.1 tries) per match, compared to 18.8 points (3.3 tries) for the Raiders. The Sharks are the benchmark at present, conceding less than 13 points and two tries per match - so both teams have room for improvement. The Sea Eagles concede fewer running metres than any other team in the competition (1321 metres per match, compared to 1378 metres for the Raiders). The Sea Eagles miss just one more tackle per match than the Raiders (24.4-23.4) and have a slightly worse missed to made tackle ratio. Both concede around 3.5 line breaks and 10 offloads per match.

Our tip: It is very difficult to split the teams, but the Sea Eagles have a slight statistical advantage. One thing in Canberra's favour is that Manly has won just one of five matches at Brookvale this season. It's normally dubbed "the fortress", but perhaps the home ground advantage isn't as strong in season 2017. The other thing in Canberra's favour is that Manly's dangerous fullback Tom Trbojevic is out with injury. Finally, the Raiders have just one player backing up from Origin (Josh Papalii), the Sea Eagles two (Jake Trbojevic and Nate Myles). This match could go either way, but I'm going to tip the Raiders will turn the tables on the Sea Eagles. Raiders by six.

What they're saying:

Jordan Rapana: "They're a good team and they've hit form and they're playing well, but I'm keen to get one back on them. We lost here at home and I'm still filthy about that. I'm sure the boys are too and I'm sure we want to get one back on them."

Canberra Raiders

1. Jack Wighton
2. Nick Cotric
3. Jarrod Croker (C)
4. Joey Leilua
5. Jordan Rapana
6. Blake Austin
7. Aidan Sezer
8. Junior Paulo
9. Josh Hodgson
10. Shannon Boyd
11. Josh Papalii
12. Elliott Whitehead
13. Sia Soliola

14. Adam Clydsdale
15. Joe Tapine
16. Clay Priest
17. Dunamis Lui
18. Scott Sorensen
19. Royce Hunt
20. Brent Naden
21. Lachlan Croker

Manly Sea Eagles

1. Matthew Wright
2. Jorge Taufua
3. Dylan Walker
4. Brian Kelly
5. Akuila Uate
6. Blake Green
7. Daly Cherry-Evans (c)
8. Brenton Lawrence
9. Apisai Koroisau
10. Martin Taupau
11. Frank Winterstein
12. Curtis Sironen
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Lewis Brown
15. Jackson Hastings
16. Nate Myles
17. Addin Fonua-Blake

18. Jarrad Kennedy
19. Cameron Cullen
20. Jonathan Wright
22. Lloyd Perrett

* Players in light grey omitted.

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Referees: Gerard Sutton, Chris Butler
Sideline Officials: Rohan Best, Ziggy Przeklasa-Adamski
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Re: 2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

Post by Lucky » May 30, 2017, 9:18 pm

Correct me if i'm wrong but this would be the 1st time in 13 games we haven't been favourites... predicting a close game, with that **** dirty grub Walker to kick a winning feid goal, or penalty goal.

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Post by gangrenous » May 30, 2017, 10:11 pm

Not sure Lucky. It's definitely the first time in 13 games we've named Royce Hunt...

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Post by Archer » May 30, 2017, 10:41 pm

gangrenous wrote:Not sure Lucky. It's definitely the first time in 13 games we've named Royce Hunt...
What if i told you Royce Hunt looks a lot like Paulo in a headguard ?

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Re: 2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

Post by kiwi raider » May 31, 2017, 6:54 am

Lucky wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong but this would be the 1st time in 13 games we haven't been favourites... predicting a close game, with that **** dirty grub Walker to kick a winning feid goal, or penalty goal.
not sure but with no tom Trbjevevebeje and his brother and Myles backing up I reckon we are good value

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Post by Makaveli » May 31, 2017, 8:37 am

Don't think we were favorites against North Queensland or Brisbane. Have been the rest though.

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Re: 2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

Post by CJR » May 31, 2017, 8:41 am

kiwi raider wrote:
Lucky wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong but this would be the 1st time in 13 games we haven't been favourites... predicting a close game, with that **** dirty grub Walker to kick a winning feid goal, or penalty goal.
not sure but with no tom Trbjevevebeje and his brother and Myles backing up I reckon we are good value
They're both named and will probably back up

EDIT- I read this originally as you implying they weren't backing up. My mistake

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Post by -TW- » May 31, 2017, 5:28 pm

Tom Trbo was their best player by streets in the last game, he's a big loss

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Post by bonehead » June 1, 2017, 12:44 pm

-TW- wrote:Tom Trbo was their best player by streets in the last game, he's a big loss

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You mean dylan walker, surely.
Tom Trbojevic is a handy player who is a poor defensive fullback.
Dylan Walker and Marty Tapau took us apart.

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Post by Raidersfan » June 1, 2017, 1:56 pm

^^^
Tom hardly did a thing in that game except towards the end
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Post by kiwi raider » June 1, 2017, 6:34 pm

Tapau and Fonua-Blake walked all over our pack, both running for 170+ metres and throwing about 100 offloads

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Post by -PJ- » June 2, 2017, 3:08 pm

bonehead wrote:
-TW- wrote:Tom Trbo was their best player by streets in the last game, he's a big loss

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You mean dylan walker, surely.
Tom Trbojevic is a handy player who is a poor defensive fullback.
Dylan Walker and Marty Tapau took us apart.

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Yep, Kapows offloads were killing us that night.

Need to squash him early...
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Post by CJ42 » June 2, 2017, 7:08 pm

i'd like tapine to take it to him as he did last year, really nulified him and got in his head.
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Post by greeneyed » June 3, 2017, 5:25 pm

Absolutely teaming rain right now in Manly. Supposed to be fine tomorrow.


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Post by gangrenous » June 3, 2017, 6:27 pm

Teeming GE

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Post by -PJ- » June 4, 2017, 6:10 am

It's on.

Looking forward to this, hope the boys step up.
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Post by Raidersfan » June 4, 2017, 7:43 am

This game and the next few are vitally important to any success we may wish this season .. we are playing teams that are as desperate as us to stay in the finals race .. we do ourselves a big favour by taking points from them and adding it to our side of the ledger .. 4 point games.

Beat Manly and we take their position in the eight .. beat Penrith and we add another two points between us and them .. we'll then bank an automatic 2 points from the bye, create a buffer from 9th, rest a few injuries, get Baptiste and Taylor back, and, with that confidence can start making an assault for the top 4. I have to admit I'm not totally confident.

We did ourselves a favour last week beating Parra but now need to continue that form. The players are saying all the right things in the media and hopefully this will be the game they begin to consistently apply all that on the field. I don't want to delve on the alternative.

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Post by CJR » June 4, 2017, 7:56 am

I sense great anger in my future. From around the 2pm mark onward... weird

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Post by pickles » June 4, 2017, 8:03 am

Game day! Agree that is an important one to win but also a danger game. We are a long way off our best so would love to see a game where a few things click to give us some confidence. I'm guessing this will be another nail biter!

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Post by Botman » June 4, 2017, 8:16 am

Nothing danger about this
Manly are playing better football than us right now, are at home and the bookies have this basically a pick em
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Post by Ilanraiders » June 4, 2017, 8:19 am

Game day...........Go the Raiders!!!
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Post by Dr Zaius » June 4, 2017, 8:29 am

A win today moves us to 6th and 2 points of third. A big win moves us to 5th. A loss has us languishing in 9th. Crucial game.
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Post by scotchberry » June 4, 2017, 8:35 am

If we can control Tapau's offloads we dominate this game comfortably.

If we can't control their 2nd phrase play then we will be on the back foot and in a dog fight again and we know how that normally ends.

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Post by pickles » June 4, 2017, 8:39 am

Pigman wrote:Nothing danger about this
Manly are playing better football than us right now, are at home and the bookies have this basically a pick em
Danger in the sense that the repercussions of losing are huge. Not that it is an expected victory.

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Post by 1992 » June 4, 2017, 8:45 am

Game day....again.


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Post by Botman » June 4, 2017, 8:46 am

pickles wrote:
Pigman wrote:Nothing danger about this
Manly are playing better football than us right now, are at home and the bookies have this basically a pick em
Danger in the sense that the repercussions of losing are huge. Not that it is an expected victory.
Yeah that's fair
This is a huge game in the context of our season
This little period is where we are either going to get it together and start rolling, or where it becomes clear this won't be our year
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Post by Raiders666 » June 4, 2017, 8:47 am

Either way I think Manly are playing much better footy than people are giving them credit for... They have beaten some quality football teams this yr. This will be a huge test and should make for another cracker of a game

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Post by Ginga » June 4, 2017, 8:51 am

So I don't see anyone with the last name Gordon in that Manly side... Bombs away Austin

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Post by -PJ- » June 4, 2017, 9:08 am

How's the weather @ Lottoland ?
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Post by pickles » June 4, 2017, 9:09 am

Pigman wrote:
pickles wrote:
Pigman wrote:Nothing danger about this
Manly are playing better football than us right now, are at home and the bookies have this basically a pick em
Danger in the sense that the repercussions of losing are huge. Not that it is an expected victory.
Yeah that's fair
This is a huge game in the context of our season
This little period is where we are either going to get it together and start rolling, or where it becomes clear this won't be our year
After this week we have panthers away and then Broncos, cows, dragons and storm at home. In 6 weeks we will know exactly where we are this season.

A good run and we could push for the top 4. A bad run and we could be lucky to make the 8!

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Post by Kryptonite » June 4, 2017, 9:20 am

Game Day MOFO's!!!
I just have that feeling that things are going to "click" today at Brookie!!

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Post by 1992 » June 4, 2017, 9:39 am

Dr Zaius wrote:A win today moves us to 6th and 2 points of third. A big win moves us to 5th. A loss has us languishing in 9th. Crucial game.

No. A win by 4 or more points moves us to 7th and 4 points from 4th. Some teams have had their bye though.
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Post by 1992 » June 4, 2017, 9:42 am

Kryptonite wrote:Game Day MOFO's!!!
I just have that feeling that things are going to "click" today at Brookie!!
Like it did in 2014 when we had 'turned a corner' after beating Melbourne at home?

Really hope your are right but for some reason we always struggle against Manly.
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Post by raiderskater » June 4, 2017, 9:48 am

Well, I also feel good about this. Surely the boys got a massive confidence boost that they held onto a tight one last week, they've gritted out two tough wins, I don't give a **** how pretty they are.

As long as we don't fall into the trap of that little piece of **** Walker we'll be fine. Let's do this!

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Re: 2017 Rd 13 V Sea Eagles: Game Day

Post by cat » June 4, 2017, 10:40 am

All the favourites have gotten up so far this weekend, so it's time for the under dog to win !

On another note how expensive are these tickets !!!! $38 for GA! That's including a $6 processing fee ...

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