We are in big trouble

bayraider · Post by **bayraider** » May 14, 2017, 4:19 pm

We look really tired no line speed can we get out of this rut and play semifinal footy? Talk about having 2011 dejvu all over again! So pissed off lost to the last team on the table bloody joke

CJ42 · Post by **CJ42** » May 14, 2017, 4:20 pm

I'm starting to worry, boys look like a complacent bunch of idiots

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Azza · Post by **Azza** » May 14, 2017, 4:21 pm

After the losses we've had recently we don't deserve to win the comp, let alone finish in the top 4.

Canberra Milk · Post by **Canberra Milk** » May 14, 2017, 4:25 pm

We'll play well once everyone writes us off, like we always do. We can't play as favourites. We're scared of being a big dog. We like being a little dog because there's no pressure or expectation, it's comfortable.

We are a little dog

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » May 14, 2017, 4:25 pm

Azza wrote:After the losses we've had recently we don't deserve to win the comp, let alone finish in the top 4.

Don't take this too personally as I'm grumpy as all hell.

But that's not how you use "let alone".

Rads1984 · Post by **Rads1984** » May 14, 2017, 4:25 pm

Looks like a culture problem to me. Perhaps Paulo and Taylor are having a negative effect off the field.

Azza · Post by **Azza** » May 14, 2017, 4:28 pm

gangrenous wrote:
Azza wrote:After the losses we've had recently we don't deserve to win the comp, let alone finish in the top 4.
Don't take this too personally as I'm grumpy as all hell.

But that's not how you use "let alone".

I don't give a rat's ass about grammatical conventions, let alone our absolutely diabolical performances. I'm over it.

Grün Maschine · Post by **Grün Maschine** » May 14, 2017, 4:29 pm

Has a whole team ever been dropped to Mounties?
Something to shake things up

Post by **dubby** » May 14, 2017, 4:36 pm

If we had brenko I'd drop Joey for him. But we just don't have the depth. Maybe swap Neddy and Joey?

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Canberra Milk · Post by **Canberra Milk** » May 14, 2017, 4:37 pm

dubby wrote:If we had brenko I'd drop Joey for him. But we just don't have the depth. Maybe swap Neddy and Joey?

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I still maintain Wighton is a centre. I would seriously consider moving him. It's hard though, it would be a big move and don't want to signal panic

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » May 14, 2017, 4:42 pm

Azza wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
Azza wrote:After the losses we've had recently we don't deserve to win the comp, let alone finish in the top 4.
Don't take this too personally as I'm grumpy as all hell.

But that's not how you use "let alone".
I don't give a rat's ass about grammatical conventions, let alone our absolutely diabolical performances. I'm over it.

well at least Azza can give me a real laugh! Cheers Azza

Grün Maschine · Post by **Grün Maschine** » May 14, 2017, 4:44 pm

We need a bit of luck to kick start our run.

Once we get that confidence back things will happen

Something needs to go our way first because the boys ain't capable of turning things around on there own

Mentally we have been piss weak for 20 years

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » May 14, 2017, 4:45 pm

Canberra Milk wrote:
dubby wrote:If we had brenko I'd drop Joey for him. But we just don't have the depth. Maybe swap Neddy and Joey?

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I still maintain Wighton is a centre. I would seriously consider moving him. It's hard though, it would be a big move and don't want to signal panic

We need to signal panic

The guys are comfortable and complacent

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CJR · Post by **CJR** » May 14, 2017, 5:02 pm

Just throwing this out there:

Drop BJ for 2-3 weeks. Wighton to replace him at right centre. Rapana to fullback. Ottio to right wing. Boyd to bench and just about anyone to take his spot, Taylor even. Bench as Baptiste, Tapine, Boyd and Priest. Soliola starting lock.

If Baptiste isn't fit enough Bateman can stay or hold on to Lui if Taylor is to start for Boyd.

I'd give the shark god a run but I think he needs another couple of weeks in reserve.

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Canberra Milk · Post by **Canberra Milk** » May 14, 2017, 5:13 pm

CJR wrote:Just throwing this out there:

Drop BJ for 2-3 weeks. Wighton to replace him at right centre. Rapana to fullback. Ottio to right wing. Boyd to bench and just about anyone to take his spot, Taylor even. Bench as Baptiste, Tapine, Boyd and Priest. Soliola starting lock.

If Baptiste isn't fit enough Bateman can stay or hold on to Lui if Taylor is to start for Boyd.

I'd give the shark god a run but I think he needs another couple of weeks in reserve.

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Yeah tbh I would be happy with those same changes

Brew · Post by **Brew** » May 14, 2017, 5:15 pm

We have not made the finals 2 years in a row since 2004

Yes we are in trouble. But it was expected.

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Ilanraiders · Post by **Ilanraiders** » May 14, 2017, 5:17 pm

Canberra Milk wrote:
CJR wrote:Just throwing this out there:

Drop BJ for 2-3 weeks. Wighton to replace him at right centre. Rapana to fullback. Ottio to right wing. Boyd to bench and just about anyone to take his spot, Taylor even. Bench as Baptiste, Tapine, Boyd and Priest. Soliola starting lock.

If Baptiste isn't fit enough Bateman can stay or hold on to Lui if Taylor is to start for Boyd.

I'd give the shark god a run but I think he needs another couple of weeks in reserve.

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Yeah tbh I would be happy with those same changes

I'd go Santo fullback but the rest I agree. We need genuine speed. Baptists please be ready!!!!!

Post by **greeneyed** » May 14, 2017, 5:22 pm

We sure are. In very deep trouble.

-TW- · Post by **-TW-** » May 14, 2017, 5:24 pm

Ilanraiders wrote:
Canberra Milk wrote:
CJR wrote:Just throwing this out there:

Drop BJ for 2-3 weeks. Wighton to replace him at right centre. Rapana to fullback. Ottio to right wing. Boyd to bench and just about anyone to take his spot, Taylor even. Bench as Baptiste, Tapine, Boyd and Priest. Soliola starting lock.

If Baptiste isn't fit enough Bateman can stay or hold on to Lui if Taylor is to start for Boyd.

I'd give the shark god a run but I think he needs another couple of weeks in reserve.

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Yeah tbh I would be happy with those same changes
I'd go Santo fullback but the rest I agree. We need genuine speed. Baptists please be ready!!!!!

Santo is not a first grade fullback

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gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » May 14, 2017, 5:26 pm

Rapana is not fit enough to be moved to fullback based on what I'm seeing. I mean that in terms of the injuries he's carrying, not stamina.

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » May 14, 2017, 5:29 pm

Only the Warriors beat us out for been long term mentalists.

Post by **dubby** » May 14, 2017, 5:36 pm

If there is one thing Ricky bangs on about, it's character.
The boys need to really start showing some.

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Post by **greeneyed** » May 14, 2017, 5:39 pm

I saw Santo play yesterday. He cannot defend at first grade standard. He's fast, he can attack. But he is too short for a fullback in the NRL and is easily fended off by attackers.

Post by **greeneyed** » May 14, 2017, 5:41 pm

Jack Wighton is the least of the problems. How is changing the fullback going to change what's going on out there. The problem is the forwards and playmakers not playing direct and making metres in the middle. The Raiders did if for the first five or 10 minutes of the second half and they looked good. They stopped... and guess what?

BadnMean · Post by **BadnMean** » May 14, 2017, 5:42 pm

bayraider wrote:We look really tired no line speed can we get out of this rut and play semifinal footy? Talk about having 2011 dejvu all over again! So pissed off lost to the last team on the table bloody joke

I actually saw a noticeable difference in our line speed today. I thought it was good, we monstered Newy a few times. Sia, Boydy and Hodgo in particular made a concerted effort there.

What cost us the game today was the now usual 2 tries through the Austin/BJ side. Austin having a barry in general and BJ beginning to look largely disinterested.
I'd also find it hard too deny the "Sezer went missing" argument today. Plenty had off games but Hodgi made a few wrong calls too- an avg game rather than a bad one.

For fixes- I'd be giving Austin two instructions next week a) run the ball. And b) dummy and run the ball. Get back to what he does best and then build any optional extras into his game from there.

I think we might also have to start looking for some halves depth if Turner is a crock, L C isn't ready yet and our halves are battling then we need a spark.

Baptiste can't arrive soon enough.

Leebola · Post by **Leebola** » May 14, 2017, 5:44 pm

edwahu wrote:Only the Warriors beat us out for been long term mentalists.

How does it happen?? What is it about players coming to Canberra and their footballing IQ dropping by 95%? How does an almost entirely different roster from that of 5 - 6 years ago have the same mental midget mindset? Infuriating!!

Post by **dubby** » May 14, 2017, 5:47 pm

Joey to Mounties, Neddy to centre and Zac on the wing.

Actually, that's terrible.

Yep. We are in trouble

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-PJ- · Post by **-PJ-** » May 14, 2017, 5:47 pm

Big big trouble....

Post by **-GD-** » May 14, 2017, 5:50 pm

Brew wrote:We have not made the finals 2 years in a row since 1995.

Yes we are in trouble. But it was expected.

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2003-2004

Post by **-GD-** » May 14, 2017, 5:50 pm

greeneyed wrote:Jack Wighton is the least of the problems. How is changing the fullback going to change what's going on out there. The problem is the forwards and playmakers not playing direct and making metres in the middle. The Raiders did if for the first five or 10 minutes of the second half and they looked good. They stopped... and guess what?

Spot on.

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » May 14, 2017, 6:21 pm

Leebola wrote:
edwahu wrote:Only the Warriors beat us out for been long term mentalists.
How does it happen?? What is it about players coming to Canberra and their footballing IQ dropping by 95%? How does an almost entirely different roster from that of 5 - 6 years ago have the same mental midget mindset? Infuriating!!

I think we just don't get players who are used to winning long term and understand what it takes. In the current squad only Sia has that type of experience.

VictorTheViking · Post by **VictorTheViking** » May 14, 2017, 6:23 pm

Baptiste on the bench when hes fit...hodgson in the halves when baptiste comes on

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kiwi raider · Post by **kiwi raider** » May 14, 2017, 6:29 pm

-GD- wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Jack Wighton is the least of the problems. How is changing the fullback going to change what's going on out there. The problem is the forwards and playmakers not playing direct and making metres in the middle. The Raiders did if for the first five or 10 minutes of the second half and they looked good. They stopped... and guess what?
Spot on.

Yea it really is, we simplify things and just concentrate on going forward and we are a completely different team, I'd include Hodgson in the criticism too, he used to be very good at getting our forwards in between defenders by getting out of dummy half and engaging the line, right now all he's doing is passing directly from the base to one out runners who are getting monstered, case in point is how different Bateman looks this year imo

Off · Post by **Off** » May 14, 2017, 6:38 pm

I don't care which one it is , one of these muppets needs to be released asap.

Off · Post by **Off** » May 14, 2017, 6:39 pm

Yeah Austin no powers or sezerian.