2017 Rd 8 V Manly Sea Eagles: Game Day

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Who will win?

Raiders 13+
5
50%
Raiders 1-12
3
30%
Draw
0
No votes
Sea Eagles 1-12
1
10%
Sea Eagles 13+
1
10%
 
Total votes: 10

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edwahu wrote:100% the bench is our biggest issue. Actually our overall depth. I can only assume we had cap issues considering the squad we have gone with.

Of course Bateman regressing and Priest getting injured hasn't helped at all.
I honestly think we just drop Clydesdale and bring in Taylor. I'd have Turner but I've barely heard anything about him all season.

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Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
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Tough loss to take but the last time Manly were this desperate for a win they dominated the Cowboys in Townsville, we defended really well for the majority of the game and lost because of a few poor options even though we didn't play at our best. With a full strength bench we will still be hard to beat in the finals, it seems as though every time Lui plays we have a gut wrenching loss haha you just know things are going to end badly when he's on the field.
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Surely Taylor isn't 100% fit still. I don't think he's being left out by choice.
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They dominated the Cowboys without their 3 best middle third forwards.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Fast forward to 2017 and McCrone is the halfback for a premiership-leading team, who'd have thought...
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Glad that Ricky kept his head screwed on in the press conference as opposed to some of you mob. We'll be ok.
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Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
ironic was the article during the week saying he wanted to take the game on and run the ball a lot more against Manly .... Image


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Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
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CJR wrote:
edwahu wrote:100% the bench is our biggest issue. Actually our overall depth. I can only assume we had cap issues considering the squad we have gone with.

Of course Bateman regressing and Priest getting injured hasn't helped at all.
I honestly think we just drop Clydesdale and bring in Taylor. I'd have Turner but I've barely heard anything about him all season.

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Taylor should come in for Bateman and one of the other depth players for Lui, at least until Priest is fit. Bateman needs a spell.
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CRR wrote:
CJR wrote:
CRR wrote:that strip decision will do me for this year

the crowd needed to start chucking some bottles at the refs
Agree with at least half of that


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2 games this year decided by posts.


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Shano wrote:
zk5000 wrote:How many times do you have to be defeated in the same manner before they "learn from this"? Slow learners or bad teachers?

Also, golden point would be infinitely better if both teams immediately get a point after full time and then play overtime for the extra point. Teams wouldn't feel as gutted after losing to some kick and giggle shenanigans, viewers could still enjoy the contest, refereeing blunders wouldn't be as significant.
I really like this idea!
Yeah i really do like this!! The GP can be like a bonus point you get it Union for scoring X amount of tries.
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:thumbsup time to play dave taylor at halfback.....slotted over a 35m field goal in the warm up and hit it sweet
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No, that's a highly problematic idea to have 3 points suddenly allocated to a game if it goes to GP. Teams that missed out on GP in that round would be well entitled to complain that the 2 teams that played got to share 3 points between them for allocation.

I personally have no problems with a draw.
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It's seems to me for some reason we looked tired tonight and the bye can't come quick enough. Our line speed from the opening bounce was disgraceful. Don't know weather playing only 15 men last week showed but Manly looked like they always wanted it more.

We def lack a Paul Vaughan off the bench, hopefully Taylor can get to that stage for us.

First half goal line defence was immense, I can't speak highly enough of the first half 3rd/4th hit ups that Papa did to get us to the 30 odd finally - we really suck at defending momentum
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gangrenous wrote:Surely Taylor isn't 100% fit still. I don't think he's being left out by choice.
He's injured.

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Archer wrote:
Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
Hit me with the counter argument, would love to see what you're seeing that goes against anything I mentioned above mate. You believe he runs well, kicks field goals when needed and takes ownership of games when we need it? You and I must have completely different understandings of what halfbacks should be doing.

DCE took our two biggest weapons out of the game tonight with smart kicking. Our halfback did what to counter this?
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can you imagine how scary we would be if we has a premier halfback.......
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scotchberry wrote:It's seems to me for some reason we looked tired tonight and the bye can't come quick enough. Our line speed from the opening bounce was disgraceful. Don't know weather playing only 15 men last week showed but Manly looked like they always wanted it more.

We def lack a Paul Vaughan off the bench, hopefully Taylor can get to that stage for us.

First half goal line defence was immense, I can't speak highly enough of the first half 3rd/4th hit ups that Papa did to get us to the 30 odd finally - we really suck at defending momentum
Yeah agreed re the tiredness. We've done a mountain of defending the last 2 weeks.
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Peter wrote:
Archer wrote:
Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
Hit me with the counter argument, would love to see what you're seeing that goes against anything I mentioned above mate. You believe he runs well, kicks field goals when needed and takes ownership of games when we need it? You and I must have completely different understandings of what halfbacks should be doing.

DCE took our two biggest weapons out of the game tonight with smart kicking. Our halfback did what to counter this?


Totally agree ..... when was the last time a halfback from the raiders made the clutch play????? haven't seen it since ricky stuart was half
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Man why did Vaughan have to fall out of favour and play a bit ploddy?
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edwahu wrote:Man why did Vaughan have to fall out of favour and play a bit ploddy?
****.

He was never, ever sub par, it was just his ability to find the line that got him out of favour.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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exrefhollywood wrote:
Peter wrote:
Archer wrote:
Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
Hit me with the counter argument, would love to see what you're seeing that goes against anything I mentioned above mate. You believe he runs well, kicks field goals when needed and takes ownership of games when we need it? You and I must have completely different understandings of what halfbacks should be doing.

DCE took our two biggest weapons out of the game tonight with smart kicking. Our halfback did what to counter this?


Totally agree ..... when was the last time a halfback from the raiders made the clutch play????? haven't seen it since ricky stuart was half
****.

Sezer deadset made the clutch play tonight and Croker fell over!
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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So much BS and player bashing in this thread tonight. Take a deep breath and have a lie down, good grief.

We didn't play our best, manly completed really well, had the lions share of possession and won the game. We could have snatched it we didn't stand up when it counted.

On the other side of it I've never rated either of the T brothers. But Jake can play. Still not sold on the glamour brother though.
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julian87 wrote:
exrefhollywood wrote:
Peter wrote:
Archer wrote:
Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
Hit me with the counter argument, would love to see what you're seeing that goes against anything I mentioned above mate. You believe he runs well, kicks field goals when needed and takes ownership of games when we need it? You and I must have completely different understandings of what halfbacks should be doing.

DCE took our two biggest weapons out of the game tonight with smart kicking. Our halfback did what to counter this?

Did he win us the game?????


Totally agree ..... when was the last time a halfback from the raiders made the clutch play????? haven't seen it since ricky stuart was half
****.

Sezer deadset made the clutch play tonight and Croker fell over!
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Peter wrote:
Archer wrote:
Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
Hit me with the counter argument, would love to see what you're seeing that goes against anything I mentioned above mate. You believe he runs well, kicks field goals when needed and takes ownership of games when we need it? You and I must have completely different understandings of what halfbacks should be doing.

DCE took our two biggest weapons out of the game tonight with smart kicking. Our halfback did what to counter this?
Honestly? I don't need to, read back a couple of pages and you will see plenty of discussion surrounding it already., though you dismissed that as people having no idea. You've clearly already got your mind made up about it and I'm not changing it, though i couldn't disagree more.
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I thought we were unlucky to lose. In saying that discipline and ball security also killed it.

I hope I never see Lui in a Raiders jumper again .. not sure what Stuart sees in him but the guy is at best useless. DT would have got us the clutch FG.
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:hmmm Did he win us the game tonight????
exrefhollywood wrote:
Peter wrote:
Archer wrote:
Peter wrote:Anyone defending Sezer has no idea. You go back a couple of years to McCrone or Williams continually playing the way Sezer is and everyone was calling for blood. The bloke doesn't run the ball, is scared to or doesn't know how to kick a field goal and goes missing every time the game is in the balance and is demanding our half to stand up and take charge. How is anyone satisfied with our chief play maker serving this up.

This post is not about the loss tonight and not an over reaction. The loss will serve us well in the long run and keep the hunger there.
Anyone criticising Sezer has no idea. I won't both continuing the rant because when you start like that its pretty bloody pointless anyway and clear you aren't looking for a discussion. :lol: :clap:
Hit me with the counter argument, would love to see what you're seeing that goes against anything I mentioned above mate. You believe he runs well, kicks field goals when needed and takes ownership of games when we need it? You and I must have completely different understandings of what halfbacks should be doing.

DCE took our two biggest weapons out of the game tonight with smart kicking. Our halfback did what to counter this?


Totally agree ..... when was the last time a halfback from the raiders made the clutch play????? haven't seen it since ricky stuart was half
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:thumbsup
Raidersfan wrote:I thought we were unlucky to lose. In saying that discipline and ball security also killed it.

I hope I never see Lui in a Raiders jumper again .. not sure what Stuart sees in him but the guy is at best useless. DT would have got us the clutch FG.
Yes you are correct......best field goal I have seen by a raiders player since Chris O Sullivan in 89 GF
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exrefhollywood wrote::hmmm Did he win us the game tonight????
well if Croker doesn't fall over; yes.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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We got beaten in the forwards and it was down-hill from there. Their offloads and our lack thereof. Their 10m+ nearly every run.

I'd like to see Blake trying for more 40/20s though, what a boot on him!
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julian87 wrote:
exrefhollywood wrote::hmmm Did he win us the game tonight????

well if Croker doesn't fall over; yes.
If croker doesn't hit the upright.....

Sezer needs a career breaking moment to win the game which he hasn't done for us yet.....I want him to be that halfback and I think he has been good this year....I want him to break the shackles bc until he does we wont win finals footy
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Ummm, we won finals footy last year m8
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-TW- wrote:
CRR wrote:
CJR wrote:
CRR wrote:that strip decision will do me for this year

the crowd needed to start chucking some bottles at the refs
Agree with at least half of that


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