Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
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Just give the man time! Stuart just needs time!
He's had his time and in that time he delivered our worst home record in the history of the club. Now is the time for him to deliver some positive results on the field.
He's had his time and in that time he delivered our worst home record in the history of the club. Now is the time for him to deliver some positive results on the field.
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16 is the 1st time he can claim to have HIS team.
No excuses , there has to be improvement
No excuses , there has to be improvement
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Yeah I hope the team really excels next year
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
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Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
How can anyone seriously have an issue with this?
The club is in SUCH a better position with Stuart around.
Pull your head out of your backsides and go beat yourself with the reality stick if you think this isn't a good move.
Check the playing roster. Wake up to yourselves.
The club is in SUCH a better position with Stuart around.
Pull your head out of your backsides and go beat yourself with the reality stick if you think this isn't a good move.
Check the playing roster. Wake up to yourselves.
Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
Haven't we been down this road as a club before? Why extend a coach based on potential rather than results?
While the squad is looking good on paper unless that translates into on field results it means nothing and having a coach who is hungry is better than having one who is safe and secure.
While the squad is looking good on paper unless that translates into on field results it means nothing and having a coach who is hungry is better than having one who is safe and secure.
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There is more to it than just onfield results. Sticky has turned our club around , the last piece in the puzzle is the results.
Hawkins has said he sees Ricky moving into an admin role , extend his contract and if in time the results dont happen then he can move/ be pushed into the admin role
Hawkins has said he sees Ricky moving into an admin role , extend his contract and if in time the results dont happen then he can move/ be pushed into the admin role
Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
It's a good thing that the last piece of the puzzle just happens to be the biggest piece and frankly the only piece that counts.Raidersrawesome wrote:There is more to it than just onfield results. Sticky has turned our club around , the last piece in the puzzle is the results.
As Red Saunders once said "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing"
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I agree the results at the end of the day is what matters but you are not going to get the results if you havent got all the other pieces in the place and it appears Sticky is doing that and that Hawkins and co recognise that.Pigman wrote:It's a good thing that the last piece of the puzzle just happens to be the biggest piece and frankly the only piece that counts.Raidersrawesome wrote:There is more to it than just onfield results. Sticky has turned our club around , the last piece in the puzzle is the results.
As Red Saunders once said "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing"
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This is starting to get a bit out of control. People are talking about Stuart like he has turned the club upside down and reinvented the whole place with his own bare hands.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
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He most certainly hasnt done it alone , but there are enough articles suggesting Ricky has done more than just recruiting.
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Remember that chach. We can't judge him yet because the team he's assembled hasn't played together yet!
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
What part of the 2015 wasn't his team?dubby wrote:Remember that chach. We can't judge him yet because the team he's assembled hasn't played together yet!
Almost everyone in the 17 are players either Stuart has prompted, purchased or extended
Wighton to fullback was Stuart
Edrick has been unstoppable since Stuart took over
Croker prompted to captain
Beej purchased by Stuart
Waqa/Rapana purchased by Stuart
Austin purchased by Stuart
Williams purchased by Stuart
Shillington was a hold over Stuart didn't want (that's 1)
Hodgson purchased by Stuart
FPN purchased by Stuart
Sia purchased by Stuart
Papalii is a hold over whom Stuart tried to poach at parra
Fensom continues to be picked and praised by Stuart
Boyd and Vaughan are hold overs being touted as building blocks for our pack by Stuart
JK promoted by Stuart
Baptiste purchased and promoted to the top grade by Stuart
How was that not Stuart's team? Only 1 regular starter was a player he clearly didn't want
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You missed Buttriss , Cornish and McCrone .
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Hold on, the Raiders Group still controls the purse strings and the person still in charge is John McIntyre. If there has been any loosening, it won't be because of a financial windfall from TV. That is still to come. And I expect it will result in a big drop in support from the Raiders Group, that business is under pressure. If there is some loosening, and I doubt it is much, I suspect it is because Stuart makes clear what he's needing. In fact, knows what he needs to make a go of things.Seiffert82 wrote:This is starting to get a bit out of control. People are talking about Stuart like he has turned the club upside down and reinvented the whole place with his own bare hands.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
Stuart is getting close to the team he wants, but it's probably at least still a year away. But I agree, results need to start flowing.
Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
Those guys weren't in his top 17 in 2015Raidersrawesome wrote:You missed Buttriss , Cornish and McCrone .
If you want to say 2014 wasn't his team, no problems
But 2015 very much was his team and the results are on him
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I'm just paraphrasing what he saidPigman wrote:What part of the 2015 wasn't his team?dubby wrote:Remember that chach. We can't judge him yet because the team he's assembled hasn't played together yet!
Almost everyone in the 17 are players either Stuart has prompted, purchased or extended
Wighton to fullback was Stuart
Edrick has been unstoppable since Stuart took over
Croker prompted to captain
Beej purchased by Stuart
Waqa/Rapana purchased by Stuart
Austin purchased by Stuart
Williams purchased by Stuart
Shillington was a hold over Stuart didn't want (that's 1)
Hodgson purchased by Stuart
FPN purchased by Stuart
Sia purchased by Stuart
Papalii is a hold over whom Stuart tried to poach at parra
Fensom continues to be picked and praised by Stuart
Boyd and Vaughan are hold overs being touted as building blocks for our pack by Stuart
JK promoted by Stuart
Baptiste purchased and promoted to the top grade by Stuart
How was that not Stuart's team? Only 1 regular starter was a player he clearly didn't want
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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They played a part though , about 15 games collectively and they are spine players. Cornish started the year in the top 17.Pigman wrote:Those guys weren't in his top 17 in 2015Raidersrawesome wrote:You missed Buttriss , Cornish and McCrone .
If you want to say 2014 wasn't his team, no problems
But 2015 very much was his team and the results are on him
15 went a way to having his team , we still had Shillo and Tilse as our front rowers too.
I think 16 is his team and there will be more added for 17.
I am not absolving him from the results , again at the end of the day he is the head coach. Hawkins said in his recent interview that they thought 16 was the year we should bear the fruit.
Time will tell but I have high hopes for this coming year.
No excuses in 16
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I like how people say ' no excuses'. It's just tempting us to get a horror injury toll next year
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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For interest, on the purse strings, funding from the Raiders Group has increased, but most of it is a "loan". The actual grant funding has declined. This extract from the QLC annual report.
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dubby wrote:I like how people say ' no excuses'. It's just tempting us to get a horror injury toll next year
Im sure I'll throw that up as an excuse if that time comes and get the no excuses comment thrown back at me
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Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
This is it for Ricky Stuart.
8th position at worst, no excuses.....
There's no doubt there's a great vibe around the club and he has the squad. It's time to perform on field. Let's see Ricky the coach stand up.
8th position at worst, no excuses.....
There's no doubt there's a great vibe around the club and he has the squad. It's time to perform on field. Let's see Ricky the coach stand up.
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Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
I see your point, but that was his team that he built with the players available on the market or in the squad at the time. I wouldn't say 2015 was the team he wants as an end point, as evidenced by the important addition of sezer. Realistically, it takes more than a couple of years to roll over a squad.Pigman wrote:Those guys weren't in his top 17 in 2015Raidersrawesome wrote:You missed Buttriss , Cornish and McCrone .
If you want to say 2014 wasn't his team, no problems
But 2015 very much was his team and the results are on him
As others, im concerned about how many props he let go given our lack of depth in the area, and that's something I think he will need to take ownership for should we be found short in that area in 2016. He cleared the decks for signings that it appears didn't eventuate.
Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
I think it's clear Stuart thinks the team still needs bolstering to make it top four competitive. He wouldn't have been going after Tamou, for example. He's on record saying he needs another top prop.dubby wrote:I'm just paraphrasing what he saidPigman wrote:What part of the 2015 wasn't his team?dubby wrote:Remember that chach. We can't judge him yet because the team he's assembled hasn't played together yet!
Almost everyone in the 17 are players either Stuart has prompted, purchased or extended
Wighton to fullback was Stuart
Edrick has been unstoppable since Stuart took over
Croker prompted to captain
Beej purchased by Stuart
Waqa/Rapana purchased by Stuart
Austin purchased by Stuart
Williams purchased by Stuart
Shillington was a hold over Stuart didn't want (that's 1)
Hodgson purchased by Stuart
FPN purchased by Stuart
Sia purchased by Stuart
Papalii is a hold over whom Stuart tried to poach at parra
Fensom continues to be picked and praised by Stuart
Boyd and Vaughan are hold overs being touted as building blocks for our pack by Stuart
JK promoted by Stuart
Baptiste purchased and promoted to the top grade by Stuart
How was that not Stuart's team? Only 1 regular starter was a player he clearly didn't want
The squad isn't even really filled at the moment. Thin in depth in the three quarters, short up front.
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I tend to agree. With the quality of players in the squad 8th position should be a minimum. If we don't have a horror injury toll, this season will be the best indication of Stuart's coaching credentials.-PJ- wrote:This is it for Ricky Stuart.
8th position at worst, no excuses.....
There's no doubt there's a great vibe around the club and he has the squad. It's time to perform on field. Let's see Ricky the coach stand up.
If our first choice spine gets injured, there's not much the coach can do about that. But if we get a heavy injury toll in the front row, Stuart can't blame anyone but himself for the lack of depth in that position.
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Yeah we are definitely short on a quality prop. In the backs we have Brenko who can play anywhere and it's likely that Rapana will be in mounties with eddy and Waqa playing nrl. That's sufficient depth, but yeah we could use another depth player for sure.
I'm more concerned about our lack of spine depth.
I'm more concerned about our lack of spine depth.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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No one is going to be on his case if our spine winds up on the sidelines and that's why we don't achieve our goalslars wrote:I tend to agree. With the quality of players in the squad 8th position should be a minimum. If we don't have a horror injury toll, this season will be the best indication of Stuart's coaching credentials.-PJ- wrote:This is it for Ricky Stuart.
8th position at worst, no excuses.....
There's no doubt there's a great vibe around the club and he has the squad. It's time to perform on field. Let's see Ricky the coach stand up.
If our first choice spine gets injured, there's not much the coach can do about that. But if we get a heavy injury toll in the front row, Stuart can't blame anyone but himself for the lack of depth in that position.
Injuries happen, we all know that and understand that if it happens to key players that the coach can't be blamed for that
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Ricky Stuart refused to join the raiders as head coach until old mac was not the chairman anymore.Seiffert82 wrote:This is starting to get a bit out of control. People are talking about Stuart like he has turned the club upside down and reinvented the whole place with his own bare hands.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
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It was also interesting that there will be incentives /triggers in the contract relating to finals footy.
We dont normally hear that when talking about Raiders coaches
We dont normally hear that when talking about Raiders coaches
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That's not true.CJ42 wrote:Ricky Stuart refused to join the raiders as head coach until old mac was not the chairman anymore.Seiffert82 wrote:This is starting to get a bit out of control. People are talking about Stuart like he has turned the club upside down and reinvented the whole place with his own bare hands.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
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Ricky's track record isn't great. He won a premiership as coach with a very good roster with the Roosters and we all know what's happened since then. He's a Raiders great and truely loves this club. The players are buying into his approach and all seems well in and around the club.
We've had important re signings in recent weeks with Hodgson to come. When I look at our squad I imagine what Hasler, Bellamy or Maguire could achieve with it. Ricky has the cattle, if he can't get this bunch into September he will come under fire IMO.
We've had important re signings in recent weeks with Hodgson to come. When I look at our squad I imagine what Hasler, Bellamy or Maguire could achieve with it. Ricky has the cattle, if he can't get this bunch into September he will come under fire IMO.
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How many of his previous clubs has he been handed the keys to the ranch and given full reign?
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None and I get where your coming from LL.Lenny Leonard wrote:How many of his previous clubs has he been handed the keys to the ranch and given full reign?
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Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
Come on now Greeneyed, in the last couple of years since McIntyre stood down there has been a bucketload of new investment in the football club:greeneyed wrote:Hold on, the Raiders Group still controls the purse strings and the person still in charge is John McIntyre. If there has been any loosening, it won't be because of a financial windfall from TV. That is still to come. And I expect it will result in a big drop in support from the Raiders Group, that business is under pressure. If there is some loosening, and I doubt it is much, I suspect it is because Stuart makes clear what he's needing. In fact, knows what he needs to make a go of things.Seiffert82 wrote:This is starting to get a bit out of control. People are talking about Stuart like he has turned the club upside down and reinvented the whole place with his own bare hands.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
Stuart is getting close to the team he wants, but it's probably at least still a year away. But I agree, results need to start flowing.
New gym:
http://www.nrl.com/raiders-now-pulling- ... fault.aspx
Full time doctor (for the first time):
http://www.raiders.com.au/news/2015/02/ ... _doc_.html
There was also plenty of media around us finally appointing a full time physiotherapist. The staff of the first grade football team these days is almost double what it used to be.
NRL Head Coach: Ricky Stuart
NRL Assistant Coaches: Dean Pay, Mick Crawley
NRL Recruitment and High Performance Manager: Peter Mulholland
Head of Physical Performance: Nigel Ashley-Jones
NRL Strength and Power Coach/Nutrition: Leigh Woodbridge
NRL Rehabilitation and Athletic Development: Ryan Clayton
NRL Head Trainer: Grant Tozer
Club Doctor: Dr Steven Whiting
Head Physiotherapist: Konrad Schultz
Physiotherapist: Isaac Priddis
NRL Football Manager: John Bonasera
Analyst and Statistician: Joel Carbone
Football Assistant: Brett Dickson
Managers of Careers, Welfare and Education: Dean Souter and David Thom
And that list doesn't include the Mounties and NYC staff.
Ricky Stuart has benefited from a massive increase in off-field investment over the last couple of years, not to mention this recent fact finding mission to the US.
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I've given the figures and where the money is coming from...Seiffert82 wrote:Come on now Greeneyed, in the last couple of years since McIntyre stood down there has been a bucketload of new investment in the football club:greeneyed wrote:Hold on, the Raiders Group still controls the purse strings and the person still in charge is John McIntyre. If there has been any loosening, it won't be because of a financial windfall from TV. That is still to come. And I expect it will result in a big drop in support from the Raiders Group, that business is under pressure. If there is some loosening, and I doubt it is much, I suspect it is because Stuart makes clear what he's needing. In fact, knows what he needs to make a go of things.Seiffert82 wrote:This is starting to get a bit out of control. People are talking about Stuart like he has turned the club upside down and reinvented the whole place with his own bare hands.
The fact of the matter is that things started to change when John McIntyre (was) stood down from the role of Chairman of the board. This quickly resulted in a far more professional outfit calling the shots at board level, and opening up the purse strings for the football department. We've also coincidentally had the biggest financial windfall in the history of the code provide for many $millions in extra funding for the club.
Ricky Stuart has put the cleaners through the roster and has managed to recruit some pretty handy players (after initially missing out on some that IMO were not good value for money). Through some good management and a bit of good luck we now have a pretty handy squad, albeit one that is a few quality front rowers short. Credit to him for that. To date the squad he has just put together hasn't won a single game of football.
He is the coach. His number 1 job is to get results on the field. To date he simply has not done that. 2016 is the time for him to deliver. No excuses.
Stuart is getting close to the team he wants, but it's probably at least still a year away. But I agree, results need to start flowing.
New gym:
http://www.nrl.com/raiders-now-pulling- ... fault.aspx
Full time doctor (for the first time):
http://www.raiders.com.au/news/2015/02/ ... _doc_.html
There was also plenty of media around us finally appointing a full time physiotherapist. The staff of the first grade football team these days is almost double what it used to be.
NRL Head Coach: Ricky Stuart
NRL Assistant Coaches: Dean Pay, Mick Crawley
NRL Recruitment and High Performance Manager: Peter Mulholland
Head of Physical Performance: Nigel Ashley-Jones
NRL Strength and Power Coach/Nutrition: Leigh Woodbridge
NRL Rehabilitation and Athletic Development: Ryan Clayton
NRL Head Trainer: Grant Tozer
Club Doctor: Dr Steven Whiting
Head Physiotherapist: Konrad Schultz
Physiotherapist: Isaac Priddis
NRL Football Manager: John Bonasera
Analyst and Statistician: Joel Carbone
Football Assistant: Brett Dickson
Managers of Careers, Welfare and Education: Dean Souter and David Thom
And that list doesn't include the Mounties and NYC staff.
Ricky Stuart has benefited from a massive increase in off-field investment over the last couple of years, not to mention this recent fact finding mission to the US.
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- Mal Meninga
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Re: Stuart set to re-sign until 2018
Just sack Dean Pay already!!