The worst Raider ever!
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Mark Asbock and Odell Manuel are candidates in addition to my earlier nomination of Greg Wolfgramm.
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I still remember Purtell scoring the winning try against us at Penrith.
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Thommo should be nowhere near this list
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Only thing we have won in first grade the past twenty years.... Puts him in the top few players the Raiders have had this century.edwahu wrote:If you count trials then Peter Penaia would be up there. Though he did win that arm wrestling competition on the footy show.
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He ran the length and it felt like it took 5 minutesLP Raider wrote:I still remember Purtell scoring the winning try against us at Penrith.
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Tyran Smith, Bill Tupou
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Jason Burnham for me.
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At least Tyran Smith had aggro. He may have been overpaid and not superb, but far from the worst.
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I have a short memory, but Matt Gafa was one of the biggest disappointments for me. Hearing of him killing premier league, and then stepping up to nuffie was a shock.
For mine it's Orford then daylight second. Could fill a spreadsheet with a long list of other names that were bog average ploders.
For mine it's Orford then daylight second. Could fill a spreadsheet with a long list of other names that were bog average ploders.
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Yeah, me too. I couldn't wait for him to play A-Grade, and then what??tragic wrote:I have a short memory, but Matt Gafa was one of the biggest disappointments for me. Hearing of him killing premier league, and then stepping up to nuffie was a shock.
Royston Lightning was similar too.
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What taints my memory as well is some players who have attracted criticism or just simply been forgotten actually played some cracking games at times, or at the very least did some utterly remarkable things on the field; as such, I find it hard to be cruel and nominate any/many as "worst" raiders.
Even Howell with his miracle try, Frawley with a chase to save a try, Drew with a few good chips, Chalk with a miracle catch, Purts with intercepts, hell- even some of the Tyran Smith one-handed magic offloads.
And so again I come back to Orford. He did nothing, offered nothing, was unfit, looked ridiculously oversized for just about any sport you can name, lacked his previous range of skills such as passing, and cost us a game that a rookie would struggle to do. Aaaaaaaand pocketed a nice wage for his half dozen appearance.
Truly awful.
Even Howell with his miracle try, Frawley with a chase to save a try, Drew with a few good chips, Chalk with a miracle catch, Purts with intercepts, hell- even some of the Tyran Smith one-handed magic offloads.
And so again I come back to Orford. He did nothing, offered nothing, was unfit, looked ridiculously oversized for just about any sport you can name, lacked his previous range of skills such as passing, and cost us a game that a rookie would struggle to do. Aaaaaaaand pocketed a nice wage for his half dozen appearance.
Truly awful.
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I reckon if mccrone had a joint or a few grogs before a game he'd go alright. His brain goes a million miles an hourRodman wrote:Purtell is up there.
McCrone is not only the worst Raider to play 100+ games, but possibly the worst footballer to play 100+ games. I GUARANTEE that he is the worst to play 100+ games with the same club (and I include the mid-to-late 90's incarnations of Balmain and Western Suburbs in this discussion).
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+1 Tupou, worst buy ever.
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Most of these guys tried their guts out but were never that good; it was a great achievement for them to make the top grade in the first place and while they didn't perform consistently at the top level you shouldn't begrudge them having a go.
My vote for "worst Raider ever" goes to Dugan. He was blessed with all of the natural ability and instinct a footballer could ever want, but is human EDIT. Never before or since has anyone shown such complete contempt for the club or its fans.
He also has the honour of being the only player I've ever heard of trying to intentionally throw a game. There are ploders, there are out-and-out bad players, and there is Josh Dugan. He is my worst Raider ever.
My vote for "worst Raider ever" goes to Dugan. He was blessed with all of the natural ability and instinct a footballer could ever want, but is human EDIT. Never before or since has anyone shown such complete contempt for the club or its fans.
He also has the honour of being the only player I've ever heard of trying to intentionally throw a game. There are ploders, there are out-and-out bad players, and there is Josh Dugan. He is my worst Raider ever.
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Yep. This is why Dugan will always be the worst, because he intentionally jobbed it.
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hard to argue with that. pathetic specimen.Walt Flanigan wrote:Jason Burnham for me.
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is this that massive bloke that was overly talked about through media that got smashed first hitupedwahu wrote:If you count trials then Peter Penaia would be up there. Though he did win that arm wrestling competition on the footy show.
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Yep. Smashed first hit up and injured. Never played for us again I believe.Crusader wrote:is this that massive bloke that was overly talked about through media that got smashed first hitupedwahu wrote:If you count trials then Peter Penaia would be up there. Though he did win that arm wrestling competition on the footy show.
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Some of you guys are way harsh. Purtell was rubbish no doubt, but nowhere near the worst. For mine, Brett Kelly and David Howell are two of the worst I can think of. For the record, Jason Williams wasn't anywhere near the worst, the cannonball!! He ran hard and bent the line, more than you can say for our current forwards.
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My top 3 are
Fulavai
Howell
Bulgarrelli
Tupou is certainly in the mix for a call up, but the **** drops off my top 3
Fulavai
Howell
Bulgarrelli
Tupou is certainly in the mix for a call up, but the **** drops off my top 3
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albert filmic au was a good player.ak47 wrote:My top 3 are
Fulavai
Howell
Bulgarrelli
Tupou is certainly in the mix for a call up, but the **** drops off my top 3
Flanagan was appalling
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fulivai - curse auto correct!!!Gorski O'Pork wrote:albert filmic au was a good player.ak47 wrote:My top 3 are
Fulavai
Howell
Bulgarrelli
Tupou is certainly in the mix for a call up, but the **** drops off my top 3
Flanagan was appalling
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How about a team:
1. Geoff MacNamara (the third Mac)
2. Bill Tupou
3. Greg Wolfgramm
4. Brett Kelly
5. Mark Asbock
6. Matt Gafa
7. Trevor Schodel
8. Bruce Mamando
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10. Darren Porter
11. Kris Kahler
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14. Sean Rutgerson
15. Glen Turner
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17.
1. Geoff MacNamara (the third Mac)
2. Bill Tupou
3. Greg Wolfgramm
4. Brett Kelly
5. Mark Asbock
6. Matt Gafa
7. Trevor Schodel
8. Bruce Mamando
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10. Darren Porter
11. Kris Kahler
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14. Sean Rutgerson
15. Glen Turner
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I endorse Geoff Macnamara in this list. He was an occasional fill-in PE teacher at my school and was a complete jerk.
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Really? He took our cricket side at Erindale and was a champion!
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I had him occasionally too..and can agree with this sentiment.AJL wrote:I endorse Geoff Macnamara in this list. He was an occasional fill-in PE teacher at my school and was a complete jerk.
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Hey leave Bruce Mamando out of it, grew up with him top bloke and junior heavy weight champ, one of the few guys who would've probably taken Furner down in the ring, had potential and it was a hard forward pack to get into, would gladly have him ahead of Tilse and White.
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ak47 wrote:My top 3 are
Fulavai
Howell
Bulgarrelli
Tupou is certainly in the mix for a call up, but the **** drops off my top 3
No way was Howell in the worst three. And no way in hell Albert Fulavai would be anywhere near the worst 17! The guy made a few errors but held his own when required (by promotion to the team through injury to others) in a team where just about every player in the starting line up was representing either their state or country. Bulgarelli made a very costly mistake moments after being concussed. Again a bad choice.
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Darren porter was ok
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1.Matt Orford is miles in front for me... Worst buy in club history
2.Tyran Smith.... Could never hold the footy
3.Steve Jackson..... Remembered for the 89 GF try but what else did he do....
2.Tyran Smith.... Could never hold the footy
3.Steve Jackson..... Remembered for the 89 GF try but what else did he do....
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Gafa wasn't that bad.
For me
Howell
Wolfgramm
Turner - deadset by the time he was at the raiders he was good for a try a week - for the other team.
I dare say tupou might make the list if he keeps getting picked.
For me
Howell
Wolfgramm
Turner - deadset by the time he was at the raiders he was good for a try a week - for the other team.
I dare say tupou might make the list if he keeps getting picked.
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Steve Jackson? Surely you are taking the p***.pibble89 wrote:1.Matt Orford is miles in front for me... Worst buy in club history
2.Tyran Smith.... Could never hold the footy
3.Steve Jackson..... Remembered for the 89 GF try but what else did he do....
You obviously know your football, not.
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That try makes him a Raiders legend
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Orford followed very closely by Tupou.