Dugan blasts Raiders over 'harsh' axing

tommyhud9 · Post by **tommyhud9** » March 10, 2013, 7:29 pm

Honestly what's the go with this guy and being injured? Are we better off without him?

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » March 10, 2013, 7:29 pm

Walt Flanigan · Post by **Walt Flanigan** » March 10, 2013, 7:29 pm

No I don't think so.

tommyhud9 · Post by **tommyhud9** » March 10, 2013, 7:31 pm

I love him as a player and thinks he has so much potential, but is he made of sticks?

edwahu · Post by **edwahu** » March 10, 2013, 7:33 pm

No it appears he is made of flesh mainly.

tommyhud9 · Post by **tommyhud9** » March 10, 2013, 7:34 pm

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 10, 2013, 7:36 pm

His playing time and performance needs to improve if he's going to get the $$ he's on now at the next contract

Please · Post by **Please** » March 10, 2013, 7:46 pm

I will reserve judgement until the end of the season. Another injury interrupted season where he doesn't reach full form will be unacceptable, but I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

bleedgreen99 · Post by **bleedgreen99** » March 10, 2013, 7:50 pm

i'm beginning to form the opinion he's soft. he had a pretty horrible preparation and apparently did a rib cartilage but for **** sake you play through the pain. with 10 to go and still in the game he lets the ball go out that cost us a good 3-4 mins, ****

Raidersrawesome · Post by **Raidersrawesome** » March 10, 2013, 7:52 pm

He did play through the pain as he has done many times before

remember the pictures of his shoulder.

I'd like to see him injury free but I cant question his commitment or toughness

Post by **-GD-** » March 10, 2013, 7:53 pm

If it continues through the expiry of his next contract than these questions will definitely be asked. Has not been the same player since 2010.

86 invader · Post by **86 invader** » March 10, 2013, 7:53 pm

the club needs marquee players and he is definitely in that category... i think if his injuries continue his asking price will go down, not up...

he ran out of steam late in today's game but i thought he really put the effort in and tried hard...

bleedgreen99 · Post by **bleedgreen99** » March 10, 2013, 7:57 pm

no excuses for not collecting that ball and running it back.
pain is something that can only be measured by the person experiencing it, so who's to say how much pain he's actually in.
thats what a shoulder looks like after you've done an AC joint, doesn't mean there's any pain. i know people who've done the same injury and their shoulder still looks like that, pain free.
soft

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » March 10, 2013, 8:03 pm

Honestly in the last twelve months I have to say the best three performances in the Caberra Raiders' number one jersey have all been by Reece Robinson.

I'd love to get 2010 Duges back.

LP Raider · Post by **LP Raider** » March 10, 2013, 8:04 pm

His price will drop no doubt, not worth 650k for a busted but I don't doubt his commitment to the Raiders though.

Post by **greeneyed** » March 10, 2013, 8:05 pm

Give him a break. Had an abscess cut out of his lip in the lead up, he's on a drip in hospital, and then suffers rib cartilage damage during the game.

Please · Post by **Please** » March 10, 2013, 8:05 pm

The Nickman wrote:Honestly in the last twelve months I have to say the best three performances in the Caberra Raiders' number one jersey have all been by Reece Robinson.

I'd love to get 2010 Duges back.

It's an unfortunate truth... If he doesn't fire this year, there will be serious questions asked.

Please · Post by **Please** » March 10, 2013, 8:06 pm

greeneyed wrote:Give him a break. Had an abscess cut out of his lip in the lead up, he's on a drip in hospital, and then suffers rib cartilage damage during the game.

How many breaks do we give to one of our best players? Injuries or not, he is getting paid to perform. Right now he's not performing.

LP Raider · Post by **LP Raider** » March 10, 2013, 8:06 pm

The Nickman wrote:Honestly in the last twelve months I have to say the best three performances in the Caberra Raiders' number one jersey have all been by Reece Robinson.

I'd love to get 2010 Duges back.

i have to agree Reece is much better value for money and has proven he is a match winner.

Swiller · Post by **Swiller** » March 10, 2013, 8:06 pm

When fit is a great defender and runner of the ball,
lacks ball playing ability that a fullback needs at this stage.
With all the injuries is he worth the money being paid to him....NO end of story.

Im so sick of a team full of broken down players, all im asking for is one season
where we can maintain a relatively injury free season ****. If you are injury prone
then your gone cause you are of no use to the team and sorry to say Duges is
just one of these type of players.

Post by **dubby** » March 10, 2013, 8:06 pm

No one is more frustrated by his injury curse than Josh himself, I would imagine.

At least we have Reece in reserve.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » March 10, 2013, 8:11 pm

greeneyed wrote:Give him a break. Had an abscess cut out of his lip in the lead up, he's on a drip in hospital, and then suffers rib cartilage damage during the game.

Hey, I love Duges, I just think in the last twelve months he's been our second best fullback.

We all know potentially how brilliant a player he can be, and I really, really want him to return to that form, but facts are facts. Rewatch some of Reece's games as fullback last year and tell me if you disagree...

Mitcho · Post by **Mitcho** » March 10, 2013, 8:25 pm

The Nickman wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Give him a break. Had an abscess cut out of his lip in the lead up, he's on a drip in hospital, and then suffers rib cartilage damage during the game.
Hey, I love Duges, I just think in the last twelve months he's been our second best fullback.

We all know potentially how brilliant a player he can be, and I really, really want him to return to that form, but facts are facts. Rewatch some of Reece's games as fullback last year and tell me if you disagree...

I just think given his lead-up, we may have made the wrong call yet again to rush him back early...

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » March 10, 2013, 8:28 pm

Mitcho wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
greeneyed wrote:Give him a break. Had an abscess cut out of his lip in the lead up, he's on a drip in hospital, and then suffers rib cartilage damage during the game.
Hey, I love Duges, I just think in the last twelve months he's been our second best fullback.

We all know potentially how brilliant a player he can be, and I really, really want him to return to that form, but facts are facts. Rewatch some of Reece's games as fullback last year and tell me if you disagree...
I just think given his lead-up, we may have made the wrong call yet again to rush him back early...

I'm not sure about that. I think a rib cartilige injury is quite unrelated to an infected lip.

CJ42 · Post by **CJ42** » March 10, 2013, 8:33 pm

Get up him for something out his control. Come off it.

Damoni · Post by **Damoni** » March 10, 2013, 8:37 pm

Big year for Duges he really needs to start justifying the price tag and that means we need him on the park.

I'd be inclined to start playing Milford at FB in the 20's as he might prove to be the successor.

Brew · Post by **Brew** » March 10, 2013, 8:41 pm

Robinson can do a as good a job if not better at half the price. Duges is one of the most talented juniors we have ever produced, he just seems to be 'one of those guys that get injured'. We all saw what he can do in 2010. Im hoping he stays on the park this year but if the injuries are too continue a tough decision will need to be made, and as I said we have Robbo who can do just as good a job for less money, Duges just has that X-Factor though...

bleedgreen99 · Post by **bleedgreen99** » March 10, 2013, 8:42 pm

CJ42 wrote:Get up him for something out his control. Come off it.

letting that segeyaro kick go out when he could have run it back was definitely in his control

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » March 10, 2013, 8:44 pm

CJ42 wrote:Get up him for something out his control. Come off it.

It's not even really the injuries that bug me, it's just that he really doesn't seem to have that X-factor that he used to have a few years back.

I really, really, REALLY hope he gets it back though!

EDIT: Wow, what are the odds of Brew and myself both using the term "X-Factor" within a few posts??

Captain Punish · Post by **Captain Punish** » March 10, 2013, 8:55 pm

I have no more to add than what has already been added and what has been added I both agree and disagree with.

Traider84 · Post by **Traider84** » March 10, 2013, 8:58 pm

bleedgreen99 wrote:no excuses for not collecting that ball and running it back.
pain is something that can only be measured by the person experiencing it, so who's to say how much pain he's actually in.
thats what a shoulder looks like after you've done an AC joint, doesn't mean there's any pain. i know people who've done the same injury and their shoulder still looks like that, pain free.
soft

Perhaps if he gets on his computer and calls everyone soft he'll be a tough guy like you...

bleedgreen99 · Post by **bleedgreen99** » March 10, 2013, 10:59 pm

Traider84 wrote:
bleedgreen99 wrote:no excuses for not collecting that ball and running it back.
pain is something that can only be measured by the person experiencing it, so who's to say how much pain he's actually in.
thats what a shoulder looks like after you've done an AC joint, doesn't mean there's any pain. i know people who've done the same injury and their shoulder still looks like that, pain free.
soft
Perhaps if he gets on his computer and calls everyone soft he'll be a tough guy like you...

haha. thanks for the compliment but i'm actually not that tough

Lui_Bon · Post by **Lui_Bon** » March 11, 2013, 12:46 am

This crud isn't worth reading. You're all such hard men.

craigo · Post by **craigo** » March 11, 2013, 5:34 am

I think he is not tough enough for rugby league not sure if that makes you soft or not, I think our money would of been better spent letting him go putting reece at fullback and throwing some coin at a decent hooker would of been better value for money, but in saying that theres not much we can do about it now so ill support duges for now and give him the benefit of doubt but if he dosent perform in the next few games he should be the highest paid n.s.w. cup player imo. He hasnt played well for some time now.

Aero · Post by **Aero** » March 11, 2013, 5:40 am

He's mentally tough to keep playing through minor injuries... but the problem is, at the moment, he might not be physically tough enough since he's always picking up injuries..

When he starts completing seasons without any injuries, that's when we'll see that he's worth the money that he's on - I have no doubt about that. What I have doubt in, is when we'll actually see that

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